Ford New v. Used F-250

[Zack1978]

Hey everyone,
I have been very tempted to step up and purchase a 5.4 gas F-250. I found a 2004 with 29,000 miles on it. The price is $23,000. I am sure that I could talk them down to about $20,000 or so (see link). However how much more would I actually pay for a brand new F250 gas? The sticker on a new F250 is about $30,000, so with talking them down, could I have a new one for about $25,000?

So what do you think is the better deal? Used or new?


Thanks,
Zack

http://www.saturnofroute23.com/en_US/

 

[Zack1978]

damm the link does not take you to the truck, but if you look for a used 2004 F250 you will find it.


Zack

 

[macneill]

Neither. Get a Tundra.

 

[94landcruiser]

I had a 94 F150 4x4 I liked it but the quality is just not up to Toyota standards. Before I bought my 80 I looked at alternatives.

I found 2001 Explorers for the same price as I was willing to spend for an equally equipped 80 but decided to go with my 94 because it has much better reliability and build quality.

Look at consumers reports you'll see Fords have poor reliability.

I'd avoid Ford.

 

[locrwln1]

I know you probably don't want to hear this, but for the price you are willing to pay for the gas truck, I would look at diesel. Because when you are getting less mileage with the gas than you would with the PSD, you'll be kicking yourself.

Also if he is looking at a 250, then the Tundra isn't going to cut it. Nice truck but still too light for any real work.

My truck has hauled a 3500lb cabover from the tip of Baja to British Columbia and everything in between, sometimes pulling a car trailer at the same time. Haven't seen a Tundra, yet, that will do that. Did I mention with four adults?

53k miles and had one "O" ring leak on the high pressure oil line to the turbo. Fixed under warranty. It's hauled and pulled everything I've wanted and does great doing it.

Jack

 

[firetruck41]

I can't imagine buying a super duty w/out the diesel, also can't imagine paying the depreciation on a new one. I would say a newer (but not new) PSD, would be best.

 

[projektdotnet]

ih8ford...toyota is always my first choice but if you're lookin for something big i'm gonna vote for Chev 2500HD

 

[Josh83]

Tundra 3/4 ton will be out this fall...with a 5.7.

 

[firetruck41]

I expect the 3/4 will lag the 1/2 ton by at least a few months, Toyota is conservative and doesn't want to cause the domestics to go (more) bankrupt.

 

[badass]

Either way it's a ford, fix or repair daily.

 

[Gus]

I would Definently go for a diesel, the 2002 and earlier F250/F350s had the 7.3L engine, much more reliable than the present 6.0L. The diesel is more efficient than the gasser across the board, it produces all it's torque at a low rpm were you can actually use it, it'll last longer than the gas engine, and they're easy(and cheap in comparison to gassers) to get a lot of power out of diesel. I have no proof of this, but it sure seems that trucks with manual trannys have way fewer problems than the auto trannys; how often do you hear about people having to replace the auto tranny in their truck vs. replace a manual transmission?
On a side note; if Toyota wants to really compete(performance wise, quality wise Toyota wins hands down) with the American 3/4 ton trucks they have to get serious and go with a diesel, at very least a 9K GVWR and at least a 12K tow capacity. I'll get off my Diesels rule soap box now.

 

[Cuerno Largo]

I have a 2002 f-250 diesel and I really like it. I have a superchip programmer on it. Smokes the tires in performance mode. Good ride and I have never had to have it repaired. The 6.0L diesels have apparently had some problems. I plan on keeping this one for another 10 years or so.

 

[80and100cruisers]

A redesigned F 250 is due for 2007. I don't know the specs, but have seen some spy shots. If you want a new truck, once the redesigned model is officially released I'd imagine the remaining 06s will drop in price even more.

And as said above, the new Tundra is also due out for 2007. Also, Chevy will be releasing a new Silverado soon.

-Matt

 

[megolfer]

The F250 for 07 will be exactly the same as the 06. Ford is releasing the new body style in January 07 and calling it a 08. Ford is also introducing the 6.4 PSD that is twin turbo. If the 6.4 is not ready, there is talk from ford engineers that ford is in nagotiations with cummins.

As far as Gas engine goes. Why not the V10. Ya it is not that great on gas but they are super reliable and go tons of miles. I have seen 02 and 03;s for around 14k with 50k miles. 5.4 in a f250 is gutless when towing.

 

[Texx]

Why anyone would pick gas is beyond me....but then I tow about 70 per cent of the time. If you've ever towed with a turbo diesel, even once, you know everything else is just pathetically weak. As for reliability, my "unreliable" 7.3 F350 4x4 only has 358000 miles on it, never put a wrench on the engine once. Not many gassers can say that......after having towed up to 17000 pounds time after time. I wouldn't buy a 250 with gas...around here they sit on car lots forever.
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[Zimm]

price drives the project.

just looked at a f-350Sd crew. 51000 bones! had a heart attack!

damn deisel is 5000 and the tranny is 1600. that buys alot of gas.

id get the gas if you werent towing all the time. if you need a diesel, its awsome. for show, it a big expence. theres a premium to pay used too. make sure you do the math.

 

[Tigerstripe40]

The way I look at it..

The first few years that Toyota brings out a 3/4 and 1 ton truck, people are going to be slow on the uptake.

When these trucks get noticed for what their power and reliability, it's going to be game over for Dodge, GMC and Ford.

 

[megolfer]

Also Diesel takes twice the amount of money to service, three times the amount to rebuild. If you are only towing a rig and that is it then why buy diesel. A V-10 will out pull a PSD on a hill, I have seen it done. All you have to do is a couple things to the motor.

 

[Texx]

Unlikely...Ford is the largest selling truck in the US, many major corporate purchasers are going to be hesitant to change...game over is a humongous concept, don't see it happening.

 

[ken_79-fj40]

I guess it all depends on what you are going to use it for, but 5.4's in super dutys are pretty weak. I have 3 friends who have them and wish they had ponied up the extra dough for the powerstroke. I am also a little (I own an old mustang gt and a good friend is a designer for Ford) biased, but for an American vehicle I won't buy consider anything but a Ford. I have seen far more problems personally with GM and Chrysler than with Fords. And a close friend of mine is a contractor and has 4 power strokes with over 200k on them, all going strong, no major issues. And they work them hard.