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What color did you get from the pictures it looks to match ok.
New Seats! (PT-Cruiser) *Easy*
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Just black.
So I just picked up a pair of these seats from a local Portland, OR salvage yard for $100. Called two places locally and they both wanted $150. Talked the one place down to $100 when I got there. Plus, they're heated! Hope that feature works.
Has anyone wired in the heater? It's a low/high switch, so I'm thinking you need another switch on the dash to turn the seat heaters on?
I'll get around to installing these sometime, hopefully this year...
Has anyone wired in the heater? It's a low/high switch, so I'm thinking you need another switch on the dash to turn the seat heaters on?
I'll get around to installing these sometime, hopefully this year...
Ahh.... Google! Heated seat wiring seems not impossible. Seems there's a relay needed, and a new spot on the fuse block. Also have to figure out which wires do what on the big 7(?)-pin connector.
http://www.allpar.com/forums/topic/142419-heated-seats-in-a-non-heated-seat-car/
"PT CRUISER HEATED SEAT SYSTEM - DESCRIPTION
Individually controlled, electrically heated front seats are available factory-installed optional equipment on this model. Vehicles with this option can be visually identified by the two separate heated seat switches mounted on each of the seat cushion side shields. The heated seat system allows the front seat driver and passenger to select from two different levels of supplemental electrical seat heating, or no seat heating to suit their individual comfort requirements. The heated seat system for this vehicle includes the following major components, which are described in further detail later in this section:
Heated Seat Elements - Two heated seat elements are used per vehicle, one for each front seat. The heated seat elements are integral to the front seat and seat back cushions. Refer to the description of the heated seat elements later in this section for additional information.
Heated Seat Modules - Two heated seat modules are used per vehicle. One module is mounted to each of the power seat cushion pans, under the forward edge of each front seat. Refer to the description of the heated seat module in the electronic control modules section of the service manual for additional information.
Heated Seat Relay - One heated seat relay is used per vehicle. The relay is located in the instrument panel fuse block, on the left lower side of the instrument panel.
Heated Seat Sensors - Two heated seat sensors are used per vehicle, one for each front seat. The heated seat sensors are integral to each of the heated seat cushions.
Heated Seat Switch - Two heated seat switches are used per vehicle, one for the driver and one for the passenger side front seats. The switches are mounted to each of the front seat cushion side shields. Refer to the description of the heated seat switch later in this section for additional information.
Hard wired circuitry connects the heated seat system components to each other through the electrical system of the vehicle. These hard wired circuits are integral to several wire harnesses, which are routed throughout the vehicle and retained by many different methods. These circuits may be connected to each other, to the vehicle electrical system and to the heated seat system components through the use of a combination of soldered splices, splice block connectors and many different types of wire harness terminal connectors and insulators. Refer to the appropriate wiring information. The wiring information includes wiring diagrams, proper wire and connector repair procedures, further details on wire harness routing and retention, as well as pin-out and location views for the various wire harness connectors, splices and grounds.
HEATED SEAT MODULE - DESCRIPTION
Two heated seat modules are used on each vehicle equipped with the heated seat option. One heated seat module is located on each power seat track, where they are secured with two push-in type plastic fasteners. The modules are contained within a small, rectangular, molded plastic housing with a single connector receptacle that allows them to be connected to all of the required inputs and outputs through the power seat wire harness. The heated seat modules are electronic microprocessor controlled devices that are designed to monitor the inputs and control the outputs of the heated seat system. The heated seat modules are programmed to provide two levels of heating for each front seat: a Lo temperature set point of about 36° C (97° F), or a Hi temperature set point of about 41° C (105° F) The heated seat modules are also programmed to perform self-diagnosis of certain heated seat system functions. Refer to heated seat module diagnosis and testing for additional information. The heated seat modules cannot be adjusted or repaired. If a module is damaged or faulty, the entire module must be replaced."
Also,
Re: Need help installing heated seats please!
I wanted to do exactly the same thing to my wife's '01. In the first place the local Chrysler dealer service manager told me that it could not be done since the ecm(?) would not have the proper circuitry(or something) and it was a high risk to add something that it wasn't designed for. But since I already had purchased the heated seats I decided to do it anyway...what they were telling me did not make good common sense since 12v can't pull more than what you fuse it with. I just went from the fused side of the main panel to a seperate little auxiliary panel I bought and mounted it beneath the steering column under that little plastic panel. I fused each circuit going out to the seats seperately and have had no trouble whatsoever. I think there is also a lumbar thing there too as well as the air bags (be careful messing with those). It's been so long since I did it I can't remember the specifics, but I just tried to use lower value fuses as I went out from the main oem panel. The dealer didn't have much to say when I took it back to them and proved them wrong. Makes me wonder if there are any old-school mechanics left out there that can actually figure something out without plugging in a scanner.
http://www.allpar.com/forums/topic/142419-heated-seats-in-a-non-heated-seat-car/
"PT CRUISER HEATED SEAT SYSTEM - DESCRIPTION
Individually controlled, electrically heated front seats are available factory-installed optional equipment on this model. Vehicles with this option can be visually identified by the two separate heated seat switches mounted on each of the seat cushion side shields. The heated seat system allows the front seat driver and passenger to select from two different levels of supplemental electrical seat heating, or no seat heating to suit their individual comfort requirements. The heated seat system for this vehicle includes the following major components, which are described in further detail later in this section:
Heated Seat Elements - Two heated seat elements are used per vehicle, one for each front seat. The heated seat elements are integral to the front seat and seat back cushions. Refer to the description of the heated seat elements later in this section for additional information.
Heated Seat Modules - Two heated seat modules are used per vehicle. One module is mounted to each of the power seat cushion pans, under the forward edge of each front seat. Refer to the description of the heated seat module in the electronic control modules section of the service manual for additional information.
Heated Seat Relay - One heated seat relay is used per vehicle. The relay is located in the instrument panel fuse block, on the left lower side of the instrument panel.
Heated Seat Sensors - Two heated seat sensors are used per vehicle, one for each front seat. The heated seat sensors are integral to each of the heated seat cushions.
Heated Seat Switch - Two heated seat switches are used per vehicle, one for the driver and one for the passenger side front seats. The switches are mounted to each of the front seat cushion side shields. Refer to the description of the heated seat switch later in this section for additional information.
Hard wired circuitry connects the heated seat system components to each other through the electrical system of the vehicle. These hard wired circuits are integral to several wire harnesses, which are routed throughout the vehicle and retained by many different methods. These circuits may be connected to each other, to the vehicle electrical system and to the heated seat system components through the use of a combination of soldered splices, splice block connectors and many different types of wire harness terminal connectors and insulators. Refer to the appropriate wiring information. The wiring information includes wiring diagrams, proper wire and connector repair procedures, further details on wire harness routing and retention, as well as pin-out and location views for the various wire harness connectors, splices and grounds.
HEATED SEAT MODULE - DESCRIPTION
Two heated seat modules are used on each vehicle equipped with the heated seat option. One heated seat module is located on each power seat track, where they are secured with two push-in type plastic fasteners. The modules are contained within a small, rectangular, molded plastic housing with a single connector receptacle that allows them to be connected to all of the required inputs and outputs through the power seat wire harness. The heated seat modules are electronic microprocessor controlled devices that are designed to monitor the inputs and control the outputs of the heated seat system. The heated seat modules are programmed to provide two levels of heating for each front seat: a Lo temperature set point of about 36° C (97° F), or a Hi temperature set point of about 41° C (105° F) The heated seat modules are also programmed to perform self-diagnosis of certain heated seat system functions. Refer to heated seat module diagnosis and testing for additional information. The heated seat modules cannot be adjusted or repaired. If a module is damaged or faulty, the entire module must be replaced."
Also,
Re: Need help installing heated seats please!
I wanted to do exactly the same thing to my wife's '01. In the first place the local Chrysler dealer service manager told me that it could not be done since the ecm(?) would not have the proper circuitry(or something) and it was a high risk to add something that it wasn't designed for. But since I already had purchased the heated seats I decided to do it anyway...what they were telling me did not make good common sense since 12v can't pull more than what you fuse it with. I just went from the fused side of the main panel to a seperate little auxiliary panel I bought and mounted it beneath the steering column under that little plastic panel. I fused each circuit going out to the seats seperately and have had no trouble whatsoever. I think there is also a lumbar thing there too as well as the air bags (be careful messing with those). It's been so long since I did it I can't remember the specifics, but I just tried to use lower value fuses as I went out from the main oem panel. The dealer didn't have much to say when I took it back to them and proved them wrong. Makes me wonder if there are any old-school mechanics left out there that can actually figure something out without plugging in a scanner.
More information!
http://www.thenorthernlondoners.com/2012/11/the-36th-mod-heated-leather-seats.html
Chrysler Relay: 05234494 - RELAY, Electrical, Heated Seat
http://www.thenorthernlondoners.com/2012/11/the-36th-mod-heated-leather-seats.html
Chrysler Relay: 05234494 - RELAY, Electrical, Heated Seat
So I finally got the passenger side seat bolted in. Went ok, mainly took the most work to grind and drill out the rivets/welds on the FJ60 slider tracks. You'll need to have a two extra M8 nuts per seat for the rear bolts from the FJ60 slider to PT Cruiser seat frame. Then it's just a matter of fiddling with how the brackets are spread out.
***DON'T THROW OUT THE PT CRUISER UNDER-SEAT DRAWERS***
If you get PT Cruiser seats with the drawer assembly bolted to them, keep the drawers and sell them on Ebay. They go for $25-30 and I just tossed mine out. That would've helped offset the cost of this mod, especially with a local sale on CL. Not sure if both drivers and pass had them, but either way, worth keeping to sell for a few bucks. Apparently lots of PTs came without the drawers, but with all the other hardware. Lots of owners are looking to get a drawer.
***DON'T THROW OUT THE PT CRUISER UNDER-SEAT DRAWERS***
If you get PT Cruiser seats with the drawer assembly bolted to them, keep the drawers and sell them on Ebay. They go for $25-30 and I just tossed mine out. That would've helped offset the cost of this mod, especially with a local sale on CL. Not sure if both drivers and pass had them, but either way, worth keeping to sell for a few bucks. Apparently lots of PTs came without the drawers, but with all the other hardware. Lots of owners are looking to get a drawer.
Mil Dot. If we ever make it to the same event I owe you a beer or two. Been looking at this thread for a while and finally got around to getting my seats in this weekend. Love the seats easy install. Drilling out the rivet and spot weld was a little of a pain but overall not bad.
If I would have had more time I probably would have just gotten some 1/4 inch flat bar and fabbed some brackets. This was easier but I felt bad destroying the factory seats. I'm sure someone doing a restoration would have been able to use them. The frames were good just bad foam and covers, oh well. Only thing left is to run a jumper wire to the seat so i can use the height adjustment. My drivers seat wasn't all the way down and it really needs to be. The seats I got has the arm rest on the drivers but not the passenger. Bonus on the passenger is it is the one that folds over flat which will come in handy when camping in the 62 or hauling something inside. The color isn't an exact match to the grey but the comfort far out weighs the look.
If I would have had more time I probably would have just gotten some 1/4 inch flat bar and fabbed some brackets. This was easier but I felt bad destroying the factory seats. I'm sure someone doing a restoration would have been able to use them. The frames were good just bad foam and covers, oh well. Only thing left is to run a jumper wire to the seat so i can use the height adjustment. My drivers seat wasn't all the way down and it really needs to be. The seats I got has the arm rest on the drivers but not the passenger. Bonus on the passenger is it is the one that folds over flat which will come in handy when camping in the 62 or hauling something inside. The color isn't an exact match to the grey but the comfort far out weighs the look.
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Nice work I like the fold flat seat I didn't even know that was an option! For the seat adjustment since the height all the way down was good for me and for my wife I just made a quick cigarette plug wire and then tossed it in my parts box.
I have yet to head out to a cruiser event but it is on my list of things to do.
Just did mine with cloth. Thanks for the write up.
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Nice work just glad I could contribute to this great community.
ff347, what year are those from? I like the smaller headrest with the hole. The ones that came with my 02-ish PT cruiser seats are HUGE headrests. They seem to block visibility a bit for me.
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I have that same thought. The headrests are a little large. I have been trying to find a set that matches mine with the hole.
It was an 08.
Been driving the truck all week and next to new springs and shocks this is one of the best mods ever. I think though that I am going to bend some strap and cut off the raised mounts and bolt the slides to the strap and hopefully lower them about 1.5". I have to duck my head to get in and out and I am kinda of slouching to see out.
Also going to recycle the old headrests and frame something to put them in the backseat.
Been driving the truck all week and next to new springs and shocks this is one of the best mods ever. I think though that I am going to bend some strap and cut off the raised mounts and bolt the slides to the strap and hopefully lower them about 1.5". I have to duck my head to get in and out and I am kinda of slouching to see out.
Also going to recycle the old headrests and frame something to put them in the backseat.
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Let me know how this works out as I sometimes wish they were lower and really with the set I have it have the height adjustment so if I didn't like it I could always rase them up.
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Mildot,
Post number 16, picture two, how did you get the front tabs to line up better. I see that the rear ones could be simply rotated. Did you just ream out the holes bigger on the front tabs?
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I reamed the out a little and the splayed them out
Really excited to see you guys doing PT Cruiser seats in 60's. Gives me hope for doing them in my 80. I had researched these a couple of years ago, but then got sidelined with other things. I searched high and low for the fold flat passenger seat as I don't fit well in the back of the 80 for sleeping(6'3") I figured with one of those seats and a platform in the back that aligned with it height wise, I'd be good to go.
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Got mine inHey mild or was wondering about room bc I'm 6'3 and want more leg room if possible but ur thread I think says no more room but another thread with cloth basic plain pt cruiser seats says he picked up a few inches and he is 6'1..wondering if the cloth seats not leather gave more room f u know?
Cruisin tiger was the owner of the other thread and just wondering differences before I decide to do this.. Thanks a lota lot
