I have owned a couple 80 series cruisers and now a 100 and always ran All Terrain tires (BFG's) because I average about 25-30k miles per year on my vehicles. I just moved close to work and will be driving it less than 8k miles per year. Getting tires and lift this fall and thinking about going to a BFG Mud Terrain. I live in Flagstaff and can be in deep snow in winter, but mostly dry terrain during the summer... I've never had Mud Terrains on a Landcruiser, always thought my A/T tires were good off road... how much traction am I gaining?... opinions?
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MTs usually do not fare as well in snow as a good AT. Take a look at the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac and see if there are sizes that meet your needs. That being said, I wonder how the KM2 would do if you were to sipe it?
I got a nice MT-AT in-between tire; Cooper ST-Maxx. Great on and off road.
I hear they do good, I also heard they more or less disintegrate from being siped.
I somewhat disagree, depends on the tire and what you are comparing it to
Other than concerns with winter traction, I see no other reason not to run KM2s in your situation.....they are easily 10X better on the trail than ATs
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Thanks for the responses... I will check out that cooper tire. I did look at the duratrax too, looks like a good aggressive A/T. Anyone have an opinion on the new Goodyear mtr's, they look more like a hybrid MT/AT than an MT.
Interesting. So how do those GY Wranger MT/R Kevlar tires do in the rain/snow? I kinda figured those would be the next to try. And they come in a nice 285/75 size. 
jonharis
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Almost universally AT>MT in the snow.
Also depends on the trails he'll be on as well. For my overlanding trails, my BFG's do just fine. But I know some of you guys are running more extreme trails.
Treadlife: I've currently got 60k miles on my BFG's and they'll still last 15k more. Haven't seen any MT's go more than 40k?
Noise: I can't say I've ridden on a quiet set of MT's. But I guess I haven't tried them all. All of which I've had experience with were pretty loud.
One other thing I didn't mention is cost. Not only from the more expensive tires, but if you actually calculate the $/mile.
Bunch of people from new hampshire (exploringnh.com) sipe km2's apparently, and love them. They know snow and slush!
My Jeep I recently sold had KM2's on it...they're a great mud tire & far less noisy than other MT's Ive used on the highway. But, there's a definite increase in noise over the a/t.
Tread life is around 60% of the BFG A/T from my experiences.
So, only driving 8k a year, you'll get at least 4 years out of the KM2s, maybe 5.
I've lived in Flag before & found the mud up there can be clay-like. It cakes on tires a lot & doesn't fling off of the A/T's well until you get on the highway.
I'd get the KM2's in your situation.
However, you may want to check out the other tires as others have suggested. I'm biased towards the BFG tires.
Tread life is around 60% of the BFG A/T from my experiences.
So, only driving 8k a year, you'll get at least 4 years out of the KM2s, maybe 5.
I've lived in Flag before & found the mud up there can be clay-like. It cakes on tires a lot & doesn't fling off of the A/T's well until you get on the highway.
I'd get the KM2's in your situation.
However, you may want to check out the other tires as others have suggested. I'm biased towards the BFG tires.
Interesting. So how do those GY Wranger MT/R Kevlar tires do in the rain/snow? I kinda figured those would be the next to try. And they come in a nice 285/75 size.
I've been quite happy with mine through rains and winter snows. I don't have very good comparison points (not enough miles on my AT Tires in snow to make very good comparisons), but in general terms I've been very happy with them.
I does seem that in the last thousand miles or so they've become a bunch louder than they were when new. I know they are a bit off balance (I scraped off some wheel weights while wheeling), so not sure if that is increasing the noise--will find out when I get them all rebalanced.
Either way they get a thumbs up from me.
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Everyone's got a tire opinion. Mine is those BFG Muds will suck royally unless you sipe them, in which case you'll chunk them up in rocks and wear them out faster. I agree with everyone who says AT's are better than MT's in snow.. they are, unless it's deep powder where you're paddling through or something, but 99% of the time it's snow on the highway and you want to get home- that's were a more balanced tire with lots of siping will help.
I'd parrot the Wrangler Duratrac comment.. I'm still impressed at how quiet they are, all reports are great in all road conditions, and they have big side lugs for the rocks so should hook up decent. Only potential downside is the sidewall, so for me personally I've got a full size spare, AAA, and the replacement certs.. I'm not worried about it.
I'd parrot the Wrangler Duratrac comment.. I'm still impressed at how quiet they are, all reports are great in all road conditions, and they have big side lugs for the rocks so should hook up decent. Only potential downside is the sidewall, so for me personally I've got a full size spare, AAA, and the replacement certs.. I'm not worried about it.
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jasonbraswell said:
About damn time. It better be fanteffingtastic with us waiting this long.
Interesting. So how do those GY Wranger MT/R Kevlar tires do in the rain/snow? I kinda figured those would be the next to try. And they come in a nice 285/75 size.
On my 2nd set of Goodyear MT/R Kevlar tires on the SpressoWagon. They do an incredible job, especially for an MT tread tire, in snow, ice and rain. That was something the prior gen MT/R totally sucked at...based on the 3-sets I had on my rig back then.
The one area they will not do so well in is lots of skinny pedal in the big rocks; they chunk. The local buggy guys don't like them for that very reason. But that doesn't really effect me...
Good to know. Thanks.
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All great feedback guys, thanks... lots of opinions. Im still split... 60% Goodyear Kevlar mtr / 40% Duratrac... leaning toward the Goodyear Kevlar mtr if they are really that improved for on road snow and ice. I have experienced the mud here really cake on my AT tires... anyone know how well the duratrac sheds Arizona clay compared to other AT tires?
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I have 285 75 16 GY Duratrac's on my 2UZJ80 and 315 70 16 GY MTR/Kevlars on my FJ40. Duratrac's are definitely the best snow tire I have ever had (have had BFG AT, MT, Michelin, GY MT and Revo previously). They are also pretty good on the street/highway and not too loud. The MTR/Kevlar seems to be really good tires, and much better than the old GY MT's, but I haven't run them and the Duratrac back to back on the same vehicle yet. I haven't had the MTR's out in snow yet. When I go up to 315's on the 2UZJ80, it will be one or the other of these two tires. Drove the 80 out to Henderson NV last week and left it there but haven't had a chance to take it out on the AZ off-road trails.
