Move Over SHELL ROTELLA The New FSM Viscosity Chart Sheriff is in Town VALVOLINE 20w50 Full Synthetic (1 Viewer)
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Jamieson22
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Did you leave it in long enough?
Your Mom axed me the same thing !
With the amount of make up oil I add on a regular basis, I never need to change it. It's always semi-fresh!
1911
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In the antique motorcycle world, we call that the dynamic oil change.
***Please note the above statement was a joke. Yes I add a lot of make up oil ... but I also do regularly change it, along with the filter.
I guess I should consider myself lucky that at 340K miles, my 3FE doesn't burn any oil and only has a couple very small leaks, one from either the side cover or the oil cooler, and one from the timing cover. I only lose a few ounces of oil between changes (used to be I'd lose a lot more through the PCV until I gave the valve cover a good deep clean so the baffles could drain out). I did notice since switching to AMSOIL I have a slight increase in oil in my PCV catch can than the bare minimum I had been getting since the valve cover cleaning though. I'll be watching it to see if that continues or increases/decreases over time.
Would be nice to get the backup car running so I can attack the leaks and get them squared away....
Would be nice to get the backup car running so I can attack the leaks and get them squared away....
Oil is a slippery subject. I've tried to do a lot of research on it. The benefit of amsoil afaik is that it has one of the highest temperature ratings compared to other oils before it begins to break down. Its not cheap.
Dr. John
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For anyone who'd like to dig deeper....Check out Jim Comstock's oil test project. Jim is a Norton Motorcycle guru and put a lot of time and effort into this. Yes, ...this is designed to find the best oils for Norton Commando engines, but the flat tappet requirement is the same.
What is the best oil for a Norton Commando?
Norton Commando Motorcycle Oil Tests by Jim Comstock.
www.accessnorton.com
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Jason , i believe brought up the 2 most valid points
- Amsoil 20w50 is NOT API Certified , and the whole Catalytic Converter Issues not being Compatible ...
- there is NO if or maybe here , that is the bottom line .....
- my local Amsoil Dealer had to do a 3-way TECH call to inform me that since my 5/89 3F-E has Roller Rockers and Roller Equipped Lifters , that is WAS OK .......?
- i ensured him it has solid lifters and Adjustable Tappet style Rocker Arms , buy HIS Factory Guide book says otherwise ?
- so now i know and so do you , on that
- the Bigger Topic was my Catalytic Converters , GHOST is keepings hers , i have NO reason to take them off , i have no idea if a 3F-E would even Run without them ....
- so i have spent what small amount of free time i have since june 27th and i can ONLY find 1 single Fully Synthetic Motor Oil that is API Certified and will NOT harm OEM TOYOTA CAT, Converters ....
- here we are and there we go :
Advanced Full Synthetic - Valvoline™ Global
Today’s advanced engine technology requires advanced protection. Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic, the motor oil designed to protect today’s sophisticated engines, contains premium anti-wear additives, superior antioxidants and extra detergents. It protects 40% better against wear, resists oil...
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This is what i setted on and why :
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Amazon product ASIN B000GAN3GC
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per. the AMAZON Description and Matches the Valvoline.com one as well .....fyi
Valvoline's SynPower Motor Oil Delivers the ultimate performance kick. SynPower motor oil and automotive chemicals are the only full synthetic line of products that help your car achieve its performance peak. The key is Advanced Synthetic Technology which cleans and protects to put a kick into your driving experience. SynPower meets the demanding performance requirements for BMW, Corvette, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, Volkswagen, Volvo and other high-performance vehicles. SynPower is an advanced, fully synthetic motor oil formulated for extreme protection and superior performance. It helps extend engine life by reducing wear and oil breakdown. Have technical questions, please feel free to call our Tech Service # 1-800-TeamVal
Motor oil is made from crude oil and is used to lubricate, clean, and cool engines. Types of motor oil include conventional, synthetic, diesel, bio-based, hybrid (blends of conventional and synthetic), and recycled oils. Motor oil varies in weight and viscosity, as well as additives that some manufacturers add to the oil during the refining process. A numerical code system created by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) grades motor oils according to viscosity--the higher the number between 0 and 60, the more viscous (thicker) the oil is. Most consumer motor oils are graded by two numbers, with the first number indicating cold weather (Winter or "W") performance.
SAE 20W-50
This oil has a weight of SAE 20W-50, meaning it has an SAE viscosity rating of 20 in cold temperatures and a rating of 50 at normal operating temperature. Always check your vehicle's owner's manual to verify that this is the correct weight of motor oil for your vehicle.
Full Synthetic Oil
This oil is a full synthetic oil, meaning crude oil is not used in making it. Synthetic oil can be used in vehicle engines instead of motor oils refined from crude oil, and often provides superior mechanical performance over traditional motor oil, including increased gas mileage. Helps reduce engine wear at high temperatures with improved viscosity and stability. Its complex method of production means it can often cost more than conventional motor oil.
Premium chemistry and full synthetic base oils help SynPower deliver the ultimate protection against:
• Heat - SynPower is formulated with full synthetic base oil and premium chemistry that stands-up to extreme temperatures. SynPower flows when the engine is cool, and maintains its protection barrier as engine temperatures rise.
• Deposits - SynPower has extra detergents and dispersants to help prevent harmful build-up of sludge, varnish and other deposits in your engine.
• Wear - With all the concern about lower zinc in motor oil, SynPower responded with advanced, more durable anti-wear additives that stay in the oil longer for outstanding protection against friction and wear.
SynPower meets the performance requirements of most naturally aspirated, turbocharged and supercharged cars operating in North America.
Valvoline's SynPower motor oils meet and exceed the same specifications as these two products. SynPower motor oils are high performing, high-quality oils formulated with full synthetic base oils and top tier additives to provide an increased level of performance. All of Valvoline's SynPower motor oils are API licensed to ensure quality for North American vehicle application. We have specially designed SynPower 5w40 for application in high performance European or diesel passenger cars and this oil carries the specific OEM approvals such as Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, Porsche and BMW. Our North American SynPower 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 exceed ILSAC GF-4 requirements and carry the API starburst on the front label. SynPower is designed with extra levels of detergent and antioxidant to provide outstanding deposit and heat protection.
Why are synthetic oils more expensive? Are they worth the extra cost?
Synthetic oils are superior to conventional oils because they help maximize horsepower, improve gas mileage and provide a smoother, cooler operation for the engine, prolonging engine life. Many vehicle owners feel that the benefits of using a synthetic motor oil are worth the extra cost.
How does Valvoline's SynPower formula protect against wear?
SynPower full synthetic motor oil is formulated with a balance of high quality ingredients such as detergents, dispersants, antioxidants, friction modifiers, anti-wear additives and premium base oils that work together to provide exceptional protection against engine stress and wear.
Valvoline's proprietary formulation includes special anti-wear chemistry. Valvoline's low impact ZDDP allows phosphorus in the anti-wear additive to stay in the oil longer than other leading synthetic motor oils. Phosphorous bonds to metal parts in the engine to form a "sacrificial" layer that helps protect against friction and metal wear in the engine.
SynPower also uses premium detergents and dispersants that protect against deposits and sludge to keep engines clean. SynPower's premium full synthetic base oils and additives hold up to extreme temperatures to provide increased protection for your engine.
Does using synthetic oil create more sludge?
No. Synthetic oils do not increase the chance of sludge. Valvoline motor oils are 100% anti-sludge guaranteed.
Does using synthetic oil cause my car to use more oil?
No. Synthetic oils do not increase oil consumption.
Does using synthetic oil damage engine seals?
No. Synthetic oils are perfectly safe for all rubber seals.
I heard that synthetic oil is too thin for use in an older car and creates blow-by and burn-off. Is this true?
This is only true if the blow-by problem exists prior to using a synthetic oil. If you have a leaking or blow-by problem, synthetic oils can make the issue worse, but they do not cause it to happen.
Do I need to use a different type of oil filter with synthetic oil?
No. You can use any type of oil filter with a synthetic oil.
Are there certain types of vehicles that should not use synthetic motor oil (e.g., Mazda's)?
Yes, there are certain engines (e.g., rotary engines) in which synthetic oils should not be used. Refer to your owner's manual for the appropriate motor oil recommendation.
Are there any gas mileage advantages to using synthetic oil?
Absolutely. Synthetic oils use higher quality friction modifiers to make the oil more slippery and stronger than conventional oils. This allows the engine to run easier and smoother, increasing gas mileage.
What group of base oils is used in the formulation of SynPower?
Valvoline uses a mixture of Group III and Group IV basestocks.
Does SynPower use polyalphaolefin (PAO) base stocks?
Yes. Valvoline uses a mixture of Group III and Group IV basestocks.
Does SynPower protect engine seals or do I have to buy a higher-mileage motor oil to get that protection?
SynPower does protect engine seals but in order to recondition older engine seals, high mileage oils are recommended.
Is it safe to use SynPower in a motorcycle with a wet clutch?
No. Valvoline SynPower oils are not approved for use with a wet clutch.
Is SynPower compatible with other brands of synthetic motor oil or do I need to flush if I'm switching brands?
Valvoline SynPower is compatible with other synthetic oils.
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Amazon product ASIN B000GAN3GC
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per. the AMAZON Description and Matches the Valvoline.com one as well .....fyi
Product Description
Product Description
Valvoline's SynPower Motor Oil Delivers the ultimate performance kick. SynPower motor oil and automotive chemicals are the only full synthetic line of products that help your car achieve its performance peak. The key is Advanced Synthetic Technology which cleans and protects to put a kick into your driving experience. SynPower meets the demanding performance requirements for BMW, Corvette, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, Volkswagen, Volvo and other high-performance vehicles. SynPower is an advanced, fully synthetic motor oil formulated for extreme protection and superior performance. It helps extend engine life by reducing wear and oil breakdown. Have technical questions, please feel free to call our Tech Service # 1-800-TeamVal
Motor oil is made from crude oil and is used to lubricate, clean, and cool engines. Types of motor oil include conventional, synthetic, diesel, bio-based, hybrid (blends of conventional and synthetic), and recycled oils. Motor oil varies in weight and viscosity, as well as additives that some manufacturers add to the oil during the refining process. A numerical code system created by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) grades motor oils according to viscosity--the higher the number between 0 and 60, the more viscous (thicker) the oil is. Most consumer motor oils are graded by two numbers, with the first number indicating cold weather (Winter or "W") performance.
SAE 20W-50
This oil has a weight of SAE 20W-50, meaning it has an SAE viscosity rating of 20 in cold temperatures and a rating of 50 at normal operating temperature. Always check your vehicle's owner's manual to verify that this is the correct weight of motor oil for your vehicle.
Full Synthetic Oil
This oil is a full synthetic oil, meaning crude oil is not used in making it. Synthetic oil can be used in vehicle engines instead of motor oils refined from crude oil, and often provides superior mechanical performance over traditional motor oil, including increased gas mileage. Helps reduce engine wear at high temperatures with improved viscosity and stability. Its complex method of production means it can often cost more than conventional motor oil.
From the Manufacturer
Valvoline SynPower Full Synthetic Motor Oil - Meets the Demands of Today's Tough Driving Conditions
SynPower Full Synthetic delivers superior engine protection by fighting the three major causes of engine stress: heat, deposits and wear. That's because SynPower is the only leading full synthetic formulated with more durable anti-wear additives that stay in the oil longer.Premium chemistry and full synthetic base oils help SynPower deliver the ultimate protection against:
• Heat - SynPower is formulated with full synthetic base oil and premium chemistry that stands-up to extreme temperatures. SynPower flows when the engine is cool, and maintains its protection barrier as engine temperatures rise.
• Deposits - SynPower has extra detergents and dispersants to help prevent harmful build-up of sludge, varnish and other deposits in your engine.
• Wear - With all the concern about lower zinc in motor oil, SynPower responded with advanced, more durable anti-wear additives that stay in the oil longer for outstanding protection against friction and wear.
SynPower meets the performance requirements of most naturally aspirated, turbocharged and supercharged cars operating in North America.
Frequently Asked Questions About Valvoline's SynPower
How does SynPower compare to Mobil1 and Amsoil?Valvoline's SynPower motor oils meet and exceed the same specifications as these two products. SynPower motor oils are high performing, high-quality oils formulated with full synthetic base oils and top tier additives to provide an increased level of performance. All of Valvoline's SynPower motor oils are API licensed to ensure quality for North American vehicle application. We have specially designed SynPower 5w40 for application in high performance European or diesel passenger cars and this oil carries the specific OEM approvals such as Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen, Porsche and BMW. Our North American SynPower 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 exceed ILSAC GF-4 requirements and carry the API starburst on the front label. SynPower is designed with extra levels of detergent and antioxidant to provide outstanding deposit and heat protection.
Why are synthetic oils more expensive? Are they worth the extra cost?
Synthetic oils are superior to conventional oils because they help maximize horsepower, improve gas mileage and provide a smoother, cooler operation for the engine, prolonging engine life. Many vehicle owners feel that the benefits of using a synthetic motor oil are worth the extra cost.
How does Valvoline's SynPower formula protect against wear?
SynPower full synthetic motor oil is formulated with a balance of high quality ingredients such as detergents, dispersants, antioxidants, friction modifiers, anti-wear additives and premium base oils that work together to provide exceptional protection against engine stress and wear.
Valvoline's proprietary formulation includes special anti-wear chemistry. Valvoline's low impact ZDDP allows phosphorus in the anti-wear additive to stay in the oil longer than other leading synthetic motor oils. Phosphorous bonds to metal parts in the engine to form a "sacrificial" layer that helps protect against friction and metal wear in the engine.
SynPower also uses premium detergents and dispersants that protect against deposits and sludge to keep engines clean. SynPower's premium full synthetic base oils and additives hold up to extreme temperatures to provide increased protection for your engine.
Does using synthetic oil create more sludge?
No. Synthetic oils do not increase the chance of sludge. Valvoline motor oils are 100% anti-sludge guaranteed.
Does using synthetic oil cause my car to use more oil?
No. Synthetic oils do not increase oil consumption.
Does using synthetic oil damage engine seals?
No. Synthetic oils are perfectly safe for all rubber seals.
I heard that synthetic oil is too thin for use in an older car and creates blow-by and burn-off. Is this true?
This is only true if the blow-by problem exists prior to using a synthetic oil. If you have a leaking or blow-by problem, synthetic oils can make the issue worse, but they do not cause it to happen.
Do I need to use a different type of oil filter with synthetic oil?
No. You can use any type of oil filter with a synthetic oil.
Are there certain types of vehicles that should not use synthetic motor oil (e.g., Mazda's)?
Yes, there are certain engines (e.g., rotary engines) in which synthetic oils should not be used. Refer to your owner's manual for the appropriate motor oil recommendation.
Are there any gas mileage advantages to using synthetic oil?
Absolutely. Synthetic oils use higher quality friction modifiers to make the oil more slippery and stronger than conventional oils. This allows the engine to run easier and smoother, increasing gas mileage.
What group of base oils is used in the formulation of SynPower?
Valvoline uses a mixture of Group III and Group IV basestocks.
Does SynPower use polyalphaolefin (PAO) base stocks?
Yes. Valvoline uses a mixture of Group III and Group IV basestocks.
Does SynPower protect engine seals or do I have to buy a higher-mileage motor oil to get that protection?
SynPower does protect engine seals but in order to recondition older engine seals, high mileage oils are recommended.
Is it safe to use SynPower in a motorcycle with a wet clutch?
No. Valvoline SynPower oils are not approved for use with a wet clutch.
Is SynPower compatible with other brands of synthetic motor oil or do I need to flush if I'm switching brands?
Valvoline SynPower is compatible with other synthetic oils.
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The 3F / 3F-E Viscosity Charts , follow the 2F and F1.5 almost ditto to the letter .....
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