motor swap hurting value
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Oh no. In fact, the good running 2F that you pull out has no value.
Send it to me.
Rocky
Send it to me.
Rocky
The F 1.5 was installed near 10/74.
My confirmed F1.5 is Engine No F529312 - Per the old SOR website - the block was manufactured between 9/73 and 5/74.
It has a F Valve Cover (sheet metal vs. Cast aluminum) and has a spin on oil filter on the Passenger Side - by the distributor.
Again - send it along if you are going to trash it.
Regards -
Rocky
PS> There is an engine chart by S/N in the FAQ.
My confirmed F1.5 is Engine No F529312 - Per the old SOR website - the block was manufactured between 9/73 and 5/74.
It has a F Valve Cover (sheet metal vs. Cast aluminum) and has a spin on oil filter on the Passenger Side - by the distributor.
Again - send it along if you are going to trash it.
Regards -
Rocky
PS> There is an engine chart by S/N in the FAQ.
I have heard that it does hurt the resale value.
Some people are really into keeping things stock and original. I on the other hand want performance that the stock Toyota f and 2f motors just cant put out. The 2f motor produces 135hp at 3600, and 200ft lbs of torque at 1800rpm. You can get a gm performance Chevy 350 for under $2000, that puts out 290 hp and 326 ft lbs. 350 Small Block | 350 Engine | 383 Engine Thats the baseline economy engine. Hard to argue against the performance and affordability of the Chevy small block!
Some people are really into keeping things stock and original. I on the other hand want performance that the stock Toyota f and 2f motors just cant put out. The 2f motor produces 135hp at 3600, and 200ft lbs of torque at 1800rpm. You can get a gm performance Chevy 350 for under $2000, that puts out 290 hp and 326 ft lbs. 350 Small Block | 350 Engine | 383 Engine Thats the baseline economy engine. Hard to argue against the performance and affordability of the Chevy small block!
marks69cruiser is certainly right about the HP / Torque figures. Hard to argue against the performance and reliability, either.
Send that old useless 2F motor along....
Rocky
PM me.
Send that old useless 2F motor along....
Rocky
PM me.
3 puppies is right on the money with his advice about getting your money back. I have made money on one rig out of all that I have owned... It was totaled by the insurance.
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I never understood why everybody feels that they need more power in their 3500# brick of a utility vehicle. If your looking for power buy a musle car. The 40 really shines where it was really design for, off road not the highway. While the torque of the stock six doesn't match the that of a V8 what it does have is there at a lot lower RPM. Plus the V8s have overheating problems. Never seen a stock six need a electric cooling. Seen plenty V8s with electric cooling fans that still can't keep them running cool off road. Keep it stock.
My .02
My .02
There's a market for original, and there's a market for modified. Swapping in a V8 moves you from one market to the other. If you really do a nice job, you could easily increase the resale value.
For my money, though, you can't ever go back, so the bone stocker is a dying breed.
For my money, though, you can't ever go back, so the bone stocker is a dying breed.
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I think the answer to your question depends on just what engine you are swapping in and what else you have done with the rig. If you have kept the rest of the rig completely stock and then you drop in the Chevy engine yes it will hurt your resale value because the folks who want a stock, original rig will run away from the Chevy transplant.
On the other hand if you have done mostly Toyota based upgrades to the rig so it isn't stock but it is still all Toyota, you will probably get a similar reaction by adding in the Chevy small block.
Obviously if you mod the rig using whatever you feel like so while not a hard core truggy but not at all stock then the Chevy block should be a plus up in that market.
I'm a second paragraph kinda guy. Swapping in a 1HZ, 6 cyl 4.2l Toyota diesel to replace the original 4 cyl, 2.9l Toyota diesel. I have done mostly Toyota upgrades and in my case the swap is a plus up. The key here is don't worry about re-sale value, you will never recoup your investment in the rig. Swap in what will work for your needs and enjoy it>
On the other hand if you have done mostly Toyota based upgrades to the rig so it isn't stock but it is still all Toyota, you will probably get a similar reaction by adding in the Chevy small block.
Obviously if you mod the rig using whatever you feel like so while not a hard core truggy but not at all stock then the Chevy block should be a plus up in that market.
I'm a second paragraph kinda guy. Swapping in a 1HZ, 6 cyl 4.2l Toyota diesel to replace the original 4 cyl, 2.9l Toyota diesel. I have done mostly Toyota upgrades and in my case the swap is a plus up. The key here is don't worry about re-sale value, you will never recoup your investment in the rig. Swap in what will work for your needs and enjoy it>
Just an opinion. I would not look at an fj40 that does not have have the original (basically tractor) engine...designed to do what it does best. Nor would I look at a '36 Ford without the original flat head; not hotrodded. It hurts my soul to see a rare or more rare everyday beautiful machine like an fj that has been hotrodded. But granted, many folks like degraded originals...or as some say...upgraded?
I agree with fast Eddy, there is a market for both but in my opion if worried about re sale value then if you ever watch the auctions on speed channel Orginals almost always go for more than mods.
Big Jake -
Based on your S/N F563102, it looks like your F engine was built at the end of Sept., 1974.
Given that your serial number is later than mine, and that it has the "F" (vs. the "2F") stamped on the block, I'd say it's one of the F1.5 engines (transition year). It has the small displacement (3.9 Liter) but the 2F oiling (good thing). Here's the SOR chart to look it up with.
Specter Off-Road, Inc.-Landcruiser Parts & Accessories -Engine Serial Numbers
The 2F engines started production in January of 1975.
What is the production year of your vehicle (Stamped on the plate on the drivers door?) It looked like in my case, the engine was built (block was cast) at least 6 months before the production date of the truck (makes sense).
Regards -
Rocky
Based on your S/N F563102, it looks like your F engine was built at the end of Sept., 1974.
Given that your serial number is later than mine, and that it has the "F" (vs. the "2F") stamped on the block, I'd say it's one of the F1.5 engines (transition year). It has the small displacement (3.9 Liter) but the 2F oiling (good thing). Here's the SOR chart to look it up with.
Specter Off-Road, Inc.-Landcruiser Parts & Accessories -Engine Serial Numbers
The 2F engines started production in January of 1975.
What is the production year of your vehicle (Stamped on the plate on the drivers door?) It looked like in my case, the engine was built (block was cast) at least 6 months before the production date of the truck (makes sense).
Regards -
Rocky
dgangle
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depends on what the next owner of your truck thinks and is willing to pay for. Contact him and ask...that's the only way you will get the answer.
When is someone going to drop in a Toyota 5.7L 3UR-FE engine into an FJ40?
