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Everyone has made some very good suggestions but there is a blurred line between rock crawling and expeditions. For example, per my definition of expeditions, dual cases would be a waste of time and money but I'm sure others would disagree as their definition would differ.

You really need to decide what you want to do with the mini and go from there.

The line is very blurry. Just about anything you do to improve capability on the rocks will help in expedition mode. Within reason. You need to avoid the rock crawling extremes. I don't think dual tc's are a waste of time in an expedition rig. I have a single 4.7 that has got my butt out many times. But I prefer dual cases, and I have one in the garage ready to go in.
 
Yep, tons of good reading: Brian894x4's Homepage

He did a ton of work on his 89 mini but ultimately went to an fj-80
 
I'm in the process of deciding what to do along these lines. Actually a Micro RV for photography trip is what I'm looking to make, but I want it reasonably bear proof as I like exploring grizzly bear country. My plan is to totally replace the back bed with a small RV back. Right now I'm leaning towards doing a mini truck version of this build. I like the hard sided pop up back they did. My back would be a bit narrower than theirs. I had explored other ways of doing a hard sided pop up but rejected them. I also thought of using my pickup bed with a topper, but rejected that too. Not enough height for sleeping in the back. Because of the photography and often taking photographs at sun rise and sunset I figured sleeping in the back was a must. I don't want to be setting up and tearing down tents in the dark.

Another option I explored for awhile was to make both sides open up with gull wing doors. Much like the sides on this utie back.


Weight is the big issue. The standard 1/2 ton mini trucks only have a 1700-1800 lbs carrying capacity including you and fuel. Because of the rear axle design, don't go over it. If you want to go long miles without fuel depots you almost have to have a trailer to carry the fuel weight. Most of the trips I can see my self doing I won't need a trailer, but there are a couple up into the more northern parts of Canada that I would want the extra food, fuel and spare parts I could put on a trailer.



wow that is nice, I like it.
 
I am building my Hilux for crawling duties with expo camping comfort.
35s, flexable suspension, dual cases, ARB Fridge, Roof Top tent, lots of storage.


Do you have any pics of your rig?
 
[*]You must have a full size spare. Mount the spare on the rear bumper. The Marlin bumper is good for crawling, not exploring. Look at bumper designs from Slee and 4X4 Labs for ideas. They don't make them for minis, so plan on building your own, or getting one built.



FYI, 4x4 Labs makes bumpers for any application. Not just Land Cruisers. Luke makes a ton of swing away spare tire carriers for Toyota Land Cruisers, mini trucks and any other vehicle you may have. I was going to have him make me a rear bumper but unfortunately being a poor ass college student all I could afford at the time was the Marlin. Once my budget increases I will definitely be having Luke build me a swing away spare tire carrier/rear bumper.

And I DEFINITELY recommend 4x4 Labs bumpers, they are PERFECT for an expedition rig. I drool over them every time I stop by his shop. :D
 
That is exactly what I am looking for in a rear bumper. How much does that bumper cost?




ARB makes a great front winch bumper for a mini. For a rear bumper with tire carrier I would go to these guys:

Kennesaw Mountain Accessories

A word of warning, they are very slow as they build to order so lots of patience may be required. I have one of their rear bumpers without the tire carrier on my 85 4Runner and am very very pleased with the quality and the price was very reasonable.

Everyone has made some very good suggestions but there is a blurred line between rock crawling and expeditions. For example, per my definition of expeditions, dual cases would be a waste of time and money but I'm sure others would disagree as their definition would differ.

You really need to decide what you want to do with the mini and go from there.
 
Decided not to bob the bed, and I got a newer camper shell that fits like a glove. The shell also has built in brackets for a roof rack! Got rid of the low hanging rear bumper. Built a drawer system for the rear (not finished yet), and replacing the engine within the next week or so. Busy busy...............
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That is exactly what I am looking for in a rear bumper. How much does that bumper cost?

I paid something like $325 for one for my 85 4Runner without the tire carrier. They used to have the prices on the website but I guess you have to email them these days for a quote. Seems like it was around $500 or so 2 years ago with the tire carrier.
 
Decided not to bob the bed, and I got a newer camper shell that fits like a glove. The shell also has built in brackets for a roof rack! Got rid of the low hanging rear bumper. Built a drawer system for the rear (not finished yet), and replacing the engine within the next week or so. Busy busy...............

Looks like a good start. If you want to see some fantastic homemade drawer systems you should peruse the 80 section on this board. Just search for "drawers".
 
Strong opinion here. Anytime I make a modification to my 4Runner I always keep my trips to Baja in mind.

  • Don't bob the bed. You want the storage. You might also want to consider the need to sleep back there. Cover it.
  • Extra fuel. An auxiliary fuel tank is a must. Extra 20L cans are a good idea. I carry 35 gallons on-board when I go to Baja (17 factory tank, 14 NMMP tank, 5 on the rear bumper).
  • Dual batteries are a must, even if the second battery just powers accessories.
  • No tire larger than 33". Install a lift to match.
  • Lower gearing is a must.
  • At least a locker in the rear. ARB or electric are good choices.
  • You must have a full size spare. Mount the spare on the rear bumper. The Marlin bumper is good for crawling, not exploring. Look at bumper designs from Slee and 4X4 Labs for ideas. They don't make them for minis, so plan on building your own, or getting one built.
  • Winch, you must have a winch to get your butt out.
  • Hi-lift jack. Get one and learn how to use it before you get stuck.
  • Communication. Get a CB radio. Better yet, get a HAM radio license and a dual band radio. My ham works where cell phones don't.
  • Consider a 12V fridge. Sometimes ice sucks. Run it off the second battery so you don't kill your starting battery.

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How well do you sleep in the back of the runner? I mean, do you get 6 feet from the back of the front seat to the back door?

I am thinking of getting a gen1 runner, removing the front seats and adding a bench seat from an early SR5 pick-up...or maybe a newer Rav4 (for three 3-point seat belts up front), and a small trailer for my galley, water, storage, extra spare/fuel, and lavatory...any comments welcomed...this would be my first such build :bounce:
 
You can get 6 feet on the diagonal.... with the stock rear seats folded up.... with them removed, you would have a void to fill, but you'd have more room...

Thanks Jerod. No problem with the void...I have plans for that :hhmm:...what worries me a little more is fitting a bench seat up front.

Found a few possible runners up here, but rust is an issue :frown:
 
Good luck finding a bench seat that's in usable shape.... they wear out faster than buckets, and eat your back..... :D

I'm thinking of adding back support to the one that is in my '94 mini truck. Otherwise it is in good shape.
 
I like the roof area, I would like to go with something like that!




I know this thread is a little old but I wanted to show my mini truck I am building into a adventure rig.
complete build up on expo forum too.
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