LX470 Family Adventure Rig

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@Bretthn , I have an 03 LX and your thread is really an inspiration.

I'm trying to duplicate your setup with the Daystar grommet, but I want to fish a pair of 2ga through the drivers side sill terminating at the rear jack/tools mount. Do you think that is possible to do? The reason is I'm building a portable power pack that will live in between the fridge and 2nd row seat, and I need a way of charging it from the alternator.
 
Thanks for the quick reply! Sorry I should've been more clear with my question. I'm concerned about whether or not the drivers side door sill has enough clearance to house a pair of 2ga under the trim. I know you said you routed some cables to your cars cargo area so just want to make sure I can end up at the jack/tools area behind the subwoofer.
 
Sitting in Thailand right now and thought I would post pictures from our trip to George Washington National Forest. Photo credit goes to my buddy Marten. I took a few with my cell phone but don't have them available to post at this time. Justin also brought along his GOPRO so hopefully he will get a video up sometime too.

We left late on a Friday evening. View of Pilot Mountain headed north out of Winston Salem.


We headed straight for what I think is the highest peak in the area the first night. Cant think of the name. Marten got some great shots and we got our first indication of just how cold the weekend was going to be.


The first night we set up camp in the dark and I realized that hammocks are not for camping in below 20 degree weather. I had my army sleeping bag system and was still cold. Marten and Justin slept in hiking tents.

You can see a bit of snow that we got overnight laying around Martens tent when we woke up the next day.

After breakfast Saturday we drove between 40 and 60 miles of gravel roads. Most were well maintained forest service roads but some places got a little muddy.


The picture doesn't do it justice but this is a nice long and steep climb. It gets a little tricky at the top and requires a spotter if you want to avoid rocker panel damage.

The sky at was clear and we could see for miles when we hit the peaks of each mountain and got clear of the trees. There was even some snow left on the shady sides of the mountains.



Saturday afternoon we set up camp early and cooked a good dinner. I will tell you, if you have not ever just thrown bacon on a stick and cooked it over an open fire, you are missing out. Its the only way I want my bacon from now on.



We packed up early Sunday morning and made the long 4 hour drive home.

It was a great trip. A little cold but still great. The next time this group gets together for a camping trip it will be in Sweden.
Thanks again Marten for letting me steal your pictures.
 
So my alternator completely crapped out on me this morning on the way to work. With a DC Power Engineering on the way in about two weeks I was hoping my current one would last. Since the Lexus is my only vehicle at the moment I was forced to change it out. I bought the cheapest one I could source locally and will slap it on Ebay or keep it as a spare after I get my new HO alternator.


Since I was a little annoyed with having to do a practice run of swapping out my alternator, I decided to do some tinkering that was a little more enjoyable. I had some LED strip lighting that a buddy gave to me so I wired it into the rear hatch where there is a lot of room for improvement. Of course I had to make a simple job difficult by routing the wiring through the factory wiring boot in the hatch. It is a tight fit but worth it in my mind. I will have to get some better double sided tape to hold them in place and I noticed two LEDs in the strip are burned out but overall it looks good and is functional.

 
When I bought the LX a couple years ago, the intentions were to make a set of sliders as one of the first modifications to protect the rocker panels. I was coming from a Jeep WJ where the rocker panels will collapse if you look at them wrong, it is w weak point of these Jeeps due to the low ground clearance. I quickly learned the LX had a lot more ground clearance and somehow it kept getting put on the backburner as other upgrades or modifications were made. At this point I have a fairly good idea of the type of roads this thing will see and the ground clearance and capabilities it has without the rock sliders. I began to think, maybe I can get due without them. Well, I plan to keep the LX for a long time so this added protection will eventually be needed. I don't ever want to be in a situation where I am forced to turn back while others in a group I am traveling with continue on due to not having the sliders to slide over a rock or log etc.
I finally decided I was going to just buy some. I priced them out and looked at all options and didn't find any that I am happy with already being made. They all seem to lack coverage right behind the front tires and in front of the door and do not seem quite as sturdy in the versions that are made to install with AHC. This is especially bad on the Lexus 100 series due to the cladding sticking out so far at this point.
I will trade form over function. I also want to make sure that these provide a bit of a step for my daughter to use when getting into the back seat but do not want this extra width at the front door. I have read about a lot of people complaining that they chafe their calves or are constantly getting the back of their pantlegs dirty when stepping out and dragging across them because they stick out too far at this point. I know some will say that this is more function but, I will not be using these to wedge between anything or to kick off the side of a tree or rock. When it gets that hairy I will turn around. I would love to rock crawl but I am going to have a much cheaper vehicle to do that in if I am ever to do it. I just need the protection under the rockers and something I can use a highlift on if ever needed.

So I started pricing steel and looking at every slider build I could find on the internet to come up with a good mounting solution and materials to use. At this point I am thinking I will use 2x4 rectangular tube and 2x2 square tube for the main body and 2x2 for the legs to the frame. I still haven't decided how I will mount them. I would like to be able to remove them with bolts and was going to have plates made with bolt sticking out of them so I could weld these to the frame and still remove the sliders by removing a few nuts. I've had the idea for a while after seeing it on Stom_M3's Sequoia
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Well after doing more reading and talking to some engineers at work, I have found that there is a chance that the frame is heat treated and welding to it could weaken the frame more than actually drilling holes through it would. I am now leaning towards drilling through the frame to mount with through bolts and also have a backing plate on the inside of the frame. I still have a few other ideas in my head and will eventually work something out.
I made some quick mock ups out of wood tonight to see how it would look. The steel will actually be 2x4 and 2x2. The wood mock up is not true 2x2 and 2x4 so steel will be a bit wider but I will bring them inboard a bit and this design still isn't set in stone. I still think the front kickout can look better and be more functional. Ideally I could go with the angles/contours of the cladding on the rocker panel but I want to keep my cuts all at 90 and 45 degree angles and keep it simple.
This first picture makes them look a little wider than they actually are.

As I am typing this and looking at the pictures I am adding I think I will actually make the front kickout about half the length it is now and see how that looks. You can see the contour I am trying to follow at the back of the front fender in this picture.

This is looking straight down from the front door. Still sticks out past the rocker but I don't think I will drag my legs on them when I step out.

This is the rear kickout/step for my daughter. I think it is just the right amount.

A couple more angles.




Overall I like the design and will do some tweaking on the front kickout tomorrow. I may even spray paint them black to get a better idea of how they will look. I am considering color matching them to the body in pearl white so they blend in. If you have read much of what I have already done to the LX you already know I like the look of the subtle things or things that many people wont even spot as a modification.

In other good new, I did receive my 180 amp high output alternator from DC Power yesterday. That is on the list as well but I have a lot of wiring to do when that goes in. I have already rerouted some wiring and my secondary battery is now my starter battery and the large group 31 in the stock battery location is dedicated as the house battery for extra circuits.
 
I have hom made sliders on my rig. I can send you some pictures if you'd like. I have to pull them off to have them either painted or powdercoated. Theres some significant rust going on that I need to take care of.
 
Bretthn, I've just jumped onto your thread and started reading about the evolution of your GX470. Very good documentation. I'm currently looking at a 2004 model to pick up locally with the desire to modify for expedition rides similar to what you've done. Thanks for the inspiration.

You mentioned drilling through the frame - typically a good way to add sliders. Is there a concern that wiring or brake lines may be routed through the frame? I don't know the answer; just thinking you want to be safe rather than sorry.

Lastly, any quick thoughts on the 2004 model GX470?
Steve
 
Bretthn, I've just jumped onto your thread and started reading about the evolution of your GX470. Very good documentation. I'm currently looking at a 2004 model to pick up locally with the desire to modify for expedition rides similar to what you've done. Thanks for the inspiration.

You mentioned drilling through the frame - typically a good way to add sliders. Is there a concern that wiring or brake lines may be routed through the frame? I don't know the answer; just thinking you want to be safe rather than sorry.

Lastly, any quick thoughts on the 2004 model GX470?
Steve

For clarification, this thread is about an LX not a GX. Some similarities exist, but they are very different vehicles.

I would caution anyone looking to mount sliders with bolts through the frame, It can cause significant damage to the frame. The frame can bend and crush from tightening the bolts alone, not to mention the stress of weight being loaded on the sliders when they hit an object. If the frame was sleeved along the mounting bolts that could help to avoid such an issue, but that seems like more work than its worth.
 
For clarification, this thread is about an LX not a GX. Some similarities exist, but they are very different vehicles.

I would caution anyone looking to mount sliders with bolts through the frame, It can cause significant damage to the frame. The frame can bend and crush from tightening the bolts alone, not to mention the stress of weight being loaded on the sliders when they hit an object. If the frame was sleeved along the mounting bolts that could help to avoid such an issue, but that seems like more work than its worth.


Thanks for pointing out my oversight. After doing a quick comparison I really don't want to pursue the GX, but rather the LX for future expedition runs.
 
Brett, message me before you go to Sweden. I worked in Malmo for a few months. Would definitely recommend the fjords and a few local spots...
 
Many of the windows are broken out. There is a company already restoring this section of the building for office space I believe. The untouched areas of the building still have all the graffiti, broken glass, and trash. It's too bad too because it is a really cool old manufacturing complex with some old brick chimneys about 15 stories tall.

It's funny, at first I thought it was an old mattress factory from all the nasty mattresses that were laying around one of the dock doors where the construction company is removing debris, then I realized that this is where a lot of homeless people were living.
 
Are you using the 65 for accessories or the 31 battery in camp. Just curious to know a real world number for run time with a fridge, lights and other typical camp power requirements. Per the Ah rating for a 31 vs 65 it should not make a massive difference.
 
Are you using the 65 for accessories or the 31 battery in camp. Just curious to know a real world number for run time with a fridge, lights and other typical camp power requirements. Per the Ah rating for a 31 vs 65 it should not make a massive difference.

When I installed the HO alternator I reran the wiring to make the group 65 the starting battery and the group 31 the house battery. I have not used the fridge since making this change but the fridge ran 24/7 when it was wired to the group 65 and I had gone 4-5 days without starting the LX and the fridge was still running on several occasions. This is with the fridge set on the lowest voltage drop setting.
 

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