Looking for clutch banjo fitting 68FJ40 (1 Viewer)

[Toysx2]

Hi all,

I can't seem to keep the air out of the clutch system on my 1968 FJ40. I have replaced the master cylinder and the slave cylinder. There has been no improvement. The system works fine for a day or two, then no clutch without pumping the system up. The cone shaped seat on the banjo fitting at the master cylinder is scored and I am wondering if I am getting air at that location. According to Spector, the fitting for 66-early70's is no longer available, so I am looking for a good used replacement or ideas on a work-around?

Spector is selling a Master Cylinder, Slave Cylinder, Hard Line and Soft Line kit which must be using some other banjo bolt and tube fittings for $169. Since I have new cylinders I would prefer not going that route at this time. I sure would appreciate any input!

Thanks

 

[Tools R Us]

Can you post a pic of the fitting, maybe it can be remachined? Is it leaking fluid?

 

[bsevans]

Hi all,

I can't seem to keep the air out of the clutch system on my 1968 FJ40. I have replaced the master cylinder and the slave cylinder. There has been no improvement. The system works fine for a day or two, then no clutch without pumping the system up. The cone shaped seat on the banjo fitting at the master cylinder is scored and I am wondering if I am getting air at that location. According to Spector, the fitting for 66-early70's is no longer available, so I am looking for a good used replacement or ideas on a work-around?

Spector is selling a Master Cylinder, Slave Cylinder, Hard Line and Soft Line kit which must be using some other banjo bolt and tube fittings for $169. Since I have new cylinders I would prefer not going that route at this time. I sure would appreciate any input!

Thanks

Magill's in Tucson can make you a custom DOT certified brake or clutch line using the same fittings that Toyota uses for $24 in rubber and $39 in certified SS/teflon with a plastic protective cover. You can not get the same quality from MAF, SOR or BTB.

 

[Toysx2]

Here is a picture of the fitting. Note the groove around the tubing seat--probably from overtightening. I doubt that re-machining would be practical. Thanks for the info on Mcgill's. I think the problem is that Toyota used a "non-standard" thread diameter/pitch in the late 60's for their fittings. Those fittings are no longer available new--tubing ends have to be recycled.

 

[osagecruiser]

could ya hold that baby up so i can see a side view...i just may have what you are looking for....i can tell ya for sure when i can see the side view

osagecruiser

 

[Toysx2]

could ya hold that baby up so i can see a side view...i just may have what you are looking for....i can tell ya for sure when i can see the side view

osagecruiser

Here you go!! I would be interested in the ends off the hard line that screw into it if you might have those also. Who knew that forty years later that you might not be able to get those fittings and you should have been more careful with them!!

Thanks!!

 

[osagecruiser]

i will look around the shop tonight....it looks familiar

osagecruiser

 

[bsevans]

Here is a picture of the fitting. Note the groove around the tubing seat--probably from overtightening. I doubt that re-machining would be practical. Thanks for the info on Mcgill's. I think the problem is that Toyota used a "non-standard" thread diameter/pitch in the late 60's for their fittings. Those fittings are no longer available new--tubing ends have to be recycled.

Are you using a fitting that mates to the inverted flair at the bottom or are you using a crush washer to seal to the flat at the outer face of the fitting. Toyota used a crush washer that sealed at the face of the fitting in many cases. Is your fitting 9mm or 10mm. You can get new tube nuts in both 9mm x 1.0 and 10mm x 1.0 from Magill's. You might want to go to the BrakeQuip wbsite and look at their catalog of fittings (64 pages).

 

[Toysx2]

Are you using a fitting that mates to the inverted flair at the bottom or are you using a crush washer to seal to the flat at the outer face of the fitting. Toyota used a crush washer that sealed at the face of the fitting in many cases. Is your fitting 9mm or 10mm. You can get new tube nuts in both 9mm x 1.0 and 10mm x 1.0 from Magill's. You might want to go to the BrakeQuip wbsite and look at their catalog of fittings (64 pages).

The fitting that I am using mates against the inverted flare at the bottom. I went over to Macgill's this morning. The tube nuts that I need are 11mm in diameter. He can order in 11mm by 1.0. We are going to order in some of those and keep our fingers crossed that they are the correct pitch. If not, then he said that he could solder in an adaptor to the banjo fitting that we could then fasten a flexible hose to and replace the hard line altogether. So we will see......

As far as damage to the inverted flare fitting, he didn't think that was really the problem. But since it is a clutch line and not a brake line, and therefore not as critical, he thought that by putting a teflon washer in for the tube to seat against, that problem could be overcome.

Thanks!