Interesting from SEMA

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“no word on whether they’ll offer a kit.” they won’t even sell a crate engine. What’s this guy talking about a kit?
 
jclark said:
“no word on whether they’ll offer a kit.” they won’t even sell a crate engine. What’s this guy talking about a kit?
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Exactly, a kit nor a crate engine will ever happen IMO.

Wonder if this was one of the 150,000+ recalled engines (number continues to grow). Good for show and an attention getter for SEMA, but no go in the real world.

Reports show Toyota dealerships won't even accept models with this engine on trade ins.

I'll be at SEMA in a few days and if its there will look it over.
 
TRAIL TAILOR said:
Exactly, a kit nor a crate engine will ever happen IMO.

Wonder if this was one of the 150,000+ recalled engines (number continues to grow). Good for show and an attention getter for SEMA, but no go in the real world.

Reports show Toyota dealerships won't even accept models with this engine on trade ins.

I'll be at SEMA in a few days and if its there will look it over.
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Man what a disaster with that motor.
And I just got rid of my ‘16 Tundra, big mistake maybe…even with the 3ur platform becoming pretty antiquated.
At this rate I probably won’t own a Tundra again.
 
onemanarmy said:
the entire ethos of SEMA.

never understood how so many companies keep throwing so much money at all show and no go
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From what I know about many of the display vehicles. They are just that; "displays" for other companies products. A majority of these "display" vehicles are torn apart and the parts are sent back to the sponsoring companies after the shows.

A majority are never finished, nor are they intended to be finished. Hence the "bluetooth" driveshaft comments everywhere. Most don't even have wiring harnesses, are missing hardware and even the engines and transmissions are hollow shells.

But SEMA is not about a traditional car show and that is where most get it wrong and where most of the negative and snide comments comes from about the vehicles that are seen there. It has always been about the aftermarket products, tools and design ideas from manufacturers, installers and retailers to show off new items/ideas and where the market is trending from what the current customer base is asking for and expecting. Its an ever changing platform and will always be this way.

I'm just happy that the Battle of the Builders event has changed (2024) that all entries must be fully operational. It weeds out a lot of the SEMA stigma of the past.
 
onemanarmy said:
if there won't be an engine kit, and the trans adapter won't be a product, and they chose bro wheels, and 100 other questionable things.......well yea. My point. Pointless.

why not spend those hundreds of thousands of dollars on actual real world?
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They do spend those " hundreds of thousands of dollars" on actual real world. It's actual hundreds of millions per year. Its called a new vehicle. But those components are not easily modilfied for a 35+ year old vehicle, especially for a hobbiest that wants to modifiy his 2nd, 3rd or 4th household vehicle. 95% or more of my customers and other businesses I work with confirm that these cruisers are not a dedicated daily driver and are a extremely light use pleasure vehicle.

Since Toyota built it and supplied the drivetrain (and their partnering suppliers gave them parts for free to be part of the build..) I see it being less than a 100K build by far. Advertising, promotions and the booth cost alone at SEMA cost more than this build did.

I can see the perspective from most purists standpoints and past comments of all combined.

You're one of the ones that don't get it. Those "bro wheels" just got 20 million views and more to come, the tires the same. Every component under that hood and on that build since TOYOTA built it is a selling point. I can guarantee you that people have already been buying parts that are the same or look similar just because of this build and advertising. That is the whole purpose for the build and the end game. Hell after SEMA and the videos the sales on those air cleaners alone will be 100K alone.

GM makes 23% on a LS3 connect and cruise package (per a retired rep I had). But makes 10 times that on the accessory drives, and misc pieces and parts that are needed to make the package complete. The money/profit is in lower priced pieces that consumers buy because its 20$, 50$, 250$ and they seem cheap and affordable. EASILY OBTAINED. But the real kicker is those that buy these parts never install or finish a project. Most sell off and lose money on the parts in the end. People see the cost of a new engine/trans combo and go buy a pullout POS motor but spend 4X that cost on new OEM or aftermarket parts to make it run. The aftermarket and add on parts are where the money is.

The drivetrain on this build; IMO is the sacrificial lamb for the rest of the build. Its a draw to the booth/vehicle for the small parts to make the money.
 
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"The new land cruisers somehow got away with not having numbers and letters in their name"🙄
 
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Well saw it in person. This was an advertising grab at best.

Pics speak for themselves.

But got to meet many of our customers today and can't wait to see our 5.7L 3URFE build finished up.

Toyota executives have no interest in having it in their booth next year.

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Man, the lack of attention to detail.
They couldn’t get a new cap for the radiator overflow resevoir?

No clip for the hood support strut?

Jason, did Toyota build this or was this a ghost shop build?

Could find the money to use new connectors?

Grille looks like an aftermarket from Taiwan. One of the ones you have to Dremel the holes to get them to line up.

Toyota but their name on this and signed off? Bush league.

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