AHC sucks. There, back on topic.maybe @Romer can move the thread finally and let us get back to our 200 series tech talk.

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AHC sucks. There, back on topic.maybe @Romer can move the thread finally and let us get back to our 200 series tech talk.
I work in the car businesswas at Ineos dealer yesterday for about 3 hrs looking at vehicles.
Drove in the city and took it on the highway. Loved it.
Picked one that I liked and the salesman asked the manager for a price, the manager asked if I was buying today and I said no, so I was not given a price.
That’s not good business.
Florida is also the Wild West when it comes to extra fees they can add to vehicle prices. I’ve seen pictures of 2,000+ dollar doc fees so they also probably don’t want to scare you away, but they should have given you a price. I don’t get why some sales managers think people go to a car lot for fun and to not buy a car. Nobody willingly goes to a car lot for no reason. If you are there, you are probably buying something soon but weirdly enough, a lot of salesmen and sales managers who have been in the business a long time forget thatExactly,
Maybe things will line up. But without a price we’ll never know.
I hope the salesman is not on commission because his boss just screwed him on a chance of making a sale.
I was at Ft. Lauderdale, another dealer is located in Tampa
The people at Crown in St Pete are great. I have not heard of great things about your local dealer.Exactly,
Maybe things will line up. But without a price we’ll never know.
I hope the salesman is not on commission because his boss just screwed him on a chance of making a sale.
I was at Ft. Lauderdale, another dealer is located in Tampa
I think others have indicated as to saying “you can buy today if the vehicle is right (hinting on sufficient test driving) and the price is right”.was at Ineos dealer yesterday for about 3 hrs looking at vehicles.
Drove in the city and took it on the highway. Loved it.
Picked one that I liked and the salesman asked the manager for a price, the manager asked if I was buying today and I said no, so I was not given a price.
That’s not good business.
22 year old me and a friend absolutely would go test driving a couple times a year. We had time but no money, and liked cars. Luckily we lived in a metro area so we could just go to a different part of town each time, like card counters at a casino we would get turned away otherwise.Nobody willingly goes to a car lot for no reason.
A few things to consider when buying a car: a normal person who buys cars a lot and very frequently might do 30-40 cars deals in their life. A rookie car salesman can do 30-40 car deals in 3 months. An experienced salesperson has sold hundreds of cars and there is no amount of YouTube videos you watch that will outbeat a competent salesperson at the car buying process or negotiation on a car. That doesn’t mean you can’t winI think others have indicated as to saying “you can buy today if the vehicle is right (hinting on sufficient test driving) and the price is right”.
Always consider that every step of the way at the dealership from the point you walk in and as to how you behave is a negotiation. The principles as how to approach this are probably well documented in YouTube vids. There are lots of do nots and some key does.
Like answering the question how much you want to spend per month on a car? Maybe not relevant here, however never answer that, just say “when the vehicle is right and the price is right I may buy”
Showing any real interest or showing you love the car. A poker face or an unhappy face works the best.
Start negotiating without trade in, then in the end ask when you are happy possible several hours later, what would they give for your car when you do trade in. They hate that, but you are the client and it is your money.
Go towards the end of the month when they try to make numbers and get factory incentives.
You may know all of this already. Good luck.
Perfect. This is the best place to be. Wear them down and take hours of time. The more exhausted and unhappy things get the better. Also always be ready to walk out and possible do and wait for them to reach out to you. Indicate early on you are shopping for equivalent Y (or even Y and Z) of another brand(s). Make sure you know the details and price and value proposition of that/those vehicle(s) as well.Pretty much the only thing that leaving the trade until last will do is make the car deal last double the time it normally takes and negotiations leave everyone involved exhausted and annoyed and unhappy.