ifs hubs on solid axle? (1 Viewer)

[pappy]

OK, I'm back to my stud suggestion. Imagine this. Let's say Hilux managed to ge the spindle off with the box end wrench (which I don't see as a problem). Now invision trying to get those bolts back in while holding up the hub/spindle assembly. Ya, royal PITA.

Then the question is would the box wrench clear between the stud and the hub?

 

[toy4xfun]

i am all for the stud idea, and also think this is where the ifs hub would fit in, you could even get a socket on there with the right ratchet.
i would have to go look in my fsm to see what the torque spec on those bolts are.

 

[Hilux]

update: Gonna see where it gets me... at the most, I'll just take the rotor back...

Got the hub machined down, to 6 and 5/8ths... For $25. It took longer to put the thing on the lathe than it did to turn. ***The races did not need to be removed***

I even had to run back home and get the rotor... But I live close..

So later, maybe tomorrow I'll get it on and IFS calipers and see if it works...

kinda worried about the spindle bolts only being able to get with an boxed end though... Seems like torquing those would be important...

But, 2 claiper bolts, pull the rotor and what? 8 spindle bolts and you're looking at the Birfield...

We'll see...

 

[Hilux]

OK, I'm back to my stud suggestion. Imagine this. Let's say Hilux managed to ge the spindle off with the box end wrench (which I don't see as a problem). Now invision trying to get those bolts back in while holding up the hub/spindle assembly. Ya, royal PITA.

Then the question is would the box wrench clear between the stud and the hub?

Well, I took a bolt out, and was thinking the same thing...

But honestly, I don't see where that would be a big deal. I got the bolt off both using the recess, and w/o using it and I could get the bolt out...

Now, putting it back on...

All you'll be holding is the spindle and the hub... I think it'll be easy enough to start one at the top to hold the rest...

Definitely looks like you need to use this though... Or cut the lip off the thingy thing, so the boxed end will fit better around the bolt head.

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i am all for the stud idea, and also think this is where the ifs hub would fit in, you could even get a socket on there with the right ratchet.
i would have to go look in my fsm to see what the torque spec on those bolts are.

ohhhh, I think I get it... Pappy's talking about using the studs on the other side?

And if not, I wonder if you could

 

[toy4xfun]

if you go up a few post he put a link to a spindle stud kit.

 

[pappy]

The studs would replace the bolts you are trying to take off with the box wrench. That way the backing plate, and spindle/hub assembly, could be "stacked" onto the studs so you are not trying to wrestle the bits together while trying to line up a bolt though the entire mess.

 

[toy4xfun]

next time i redo my knuckles i am going to get that kit.

 

[Hilux]

if you go up a few post he put a link to a spindle stud kit.

I seen it... but from the description I thought they went in from behind, at the knuckle wiper seals...

EDIT: self DUH!! "spindle" stud kit... :bonk:

 

[Hilux]

another, separate, question...

Do you absolutely have to wheel with the C clip in the end of the shaft? It doesn't keep the axle in???

 

[toy4xfun]

yes and it would be a lot easier to slide everything on a stud than lining all those holes and bolts up.

 

[toy4xfun]

good question, not sure of the answer, i put it back my self.

 

[Hilux]

man this sucks...

It's a 1/4" from not working... This stinks! this is total BS!!

I knew it would be the width of the rotor wider... But I just kept on, hoping it would work...

Insult to injury, I'm almost positive the Tacoma caliper I have would fit right on. But the bolt pattern is longer...


Anybody know any other calipers that bolt on to a SA Toyota?

 

[pappy]

The IFS calipers up to 1995 will bolt on, and they align perfect with vented rotors from a 60-series Land Cruiser. Which way is it a 1/4" off?

 

[Hilux]

copy that... but only a 1/4" from working with Tacoma, floating rotors...

I can machine off the WMS... but that's more time and $$ plus it has to be exact...

It looks like if I machine off the exact thickness of the rotor face (.266), it will work...


.266 - .80 = 0.534 WMS hub...


what would be sweet is to machine the caliper and bring it fwd... even sweeter, find a caliper that will already work... or a rotor .266 deeper than the Tacoma's...

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

You could get a ratcheting box end, that would make that a bit easier, but still not scientific when it came time to torque them down...

 

[Hilux]

oh sorry, Pappy... I missed that... It's too far fwd... It needs to go back.


If I had a chop saw, I could take some off the caliper... And split the difference in the hub WMS and it.

But that kinda rules out the swap being done easily... I'm afraid cutting some off the caliper will get the piston seals too hot

 

[goofballtech]

Maybe I missed the link but.....

Other site..... FROR Product Display for Tacoma Brake conversion brakets

 

[Hilux]

well this is quickly bringing the suck...

Floating rotors on stock SA hubs/ floating rotors on IFS trucks with SA hubs...

It can't be done easily...
Can't torque the spindles ANYWAY...
Need to machine two surfaces; the WMS area and the outer edge of the hub so a rotor will even fit over it...

All for floating rotors, and an easier Birfield field repair...


If I could just find about a 3" wide rotor... Or I wish I could get my hands on some more Toyota hubs... I'd love to see how Fj and fzJ80 hubs are...

Than that, if by some weird coincidence a Fj80 is 1/4" farther back, opens the door for Tacoma rotors on a Fj80... Floating rotors on a Fj80.


FzJ80 rotor height: 2.3"
Tacoma rotor: 2.77"
79-85 truck: 1.89"
Fj60.............: 1.89"

 

[Hilux]

Maybe I missed the link but.....

Other site..... FROR Product Display for Tacoma Brake conversion brakets

no, you didn't... At least with anything to do wth my mess...

Thanks for the link, but I'm trying not to gain any track width. And I'm only a 1/4, or the width of caliper face, from doing it.

B/c it's in front of the hub, or between the hub and rim, it adds to the .80 the hub is and pulls the rotor fwd so I can't get a caliper on it...

...so close

And thanks for the link

BTW, I think if I could get a Tacoma caliper on it, it'll work... But the new adapters are made for the additional 1.5" width of the new IFS hubs... And of course, the Tacoma has a different bolt patters...

 

[goofballtech]

no, you didn't... At least with anything to do wth my mess...

Thanks for the link, but I'm trying not to gain any track width. And I'm only a 1/4, or the width of caliper face, from doing it.

B/c it's in front of the hub, or between the hub and rim, it adds to the .80 the hub is and pulls the rotor fwd so I can't get a caliper on it...

...so close

And thanks for the link

BTW, I think if I could get a Tacoma caliper on it, it'll work... But the new adapters are made for the additional 1.5" width of the new IFS hubs... And of course, the Tacoma has a different bolt patters...

I re-read the OP. I see that you said that now. I have been mocking up mine with the FROR kit all day so that's what is on my mind. Gonna get the HUBs turned down tomorrow hopefully.

I have a set of the dust cover deals from marlin that were already installed on the axle i bought for my sas. If you are interested ill give em to you for 10 bucks and shipping. Half price from marlin and they are damn near brand new. Shoot me a PM if you are interested.