I'll check that out, thanks. I'm kinda new here, i made an account a few months ago but it was mainly used for stalking you guys. I'm ready to start restoring my LC now, and is still learning how everything works. I'm coming from the sports car scene so it's a bit different. I want to get rock sliders next but they're god awful expensive, i stumbled upon "rocky road rock sliders" at a much more reasonable price, but after a search i see one member got his sliders after 3 months. I just got 18" wheels and putting 275/70/18 General Grabber AT2 on that, so sliders are next, maybe bumper in the near future once i see how addicted i am to wheeling.