I fought the headliner and the headliner lost

[ZeGerman]

[hijack] Every time I read the title of this thread the earbug hits, LOL [/hijack]

Funny thing is that I was listening to just that when I was tearing up the headliner. That is exactly where the title came from

 

[ZeGerman]

Nice! From the way I understood it none of the holes where there. if it's just one on the C pillar then this may be feasible for all of us with the hanger and bow style. What's your plan for the front seat belts, will the 95+ belts with adjustable height work?

Great news on the height adjustable seat belts. I can confirm that all the holes for it exist so its just a direct bolt on.
Here is what the height adjustable thingy looks like off the pilar

The cover panel trim piece just requires the drilling of one hole. Thats it!

 

[MDarius]

That's great news! I think I'll upgrade the '92.

 

[ZeGerman]

So today was quite productive on the insulation front. What was that nasty fuzzy insulation is now high performing insulation as well as a layer of sound deadening. I finished the roof, the floor as well as all doors. I just need to tackle the rear and Im done.

The previous owner ripped out the carpet due to moisture which resulted in mildew. He then sprayed truck bed liner. Not sure which kind he used but its a heavy variety. I added the sound deadener today and topped it all off with a thermal decoupler.

The company I used is Noico. Its a Russian brand that I have used previously. It performs as well as dynamat but is quite a bit cheaper and its available on Amazon Prime meaning free quick shipping. I used three products in total:

1. Noico 80 mil Sound deadening mat (Silver)
2. Noico 80 mil Sound deadening mat (black)
3. Noico Liner 157 mil Heat Insulation

The only reason for getting the two different colors is that I don't want any silver to show through any parts of the carpet. There are some exposed areas like around where the rear seats fold down and click into place.

In total to cover the cruiser from head to toe you will need approximately 100 sq ft of material. For tools you just need a roller and a blade.

The above photo is of the sound deadener completed over the truck bed liner. The next step is to lay down the thermal insulation. Im not a fan of getting hot feet while on a road trip. The thermal insulation comes in a roll with an adhesive backing. Once its down it will stick and there is no way of removing it without damage.

Heat insulation is down! Basically I will cover just about everything in this stuff.

Here is a vid of the insulation:

 

[scottryana]

Looks great, keep up the good work.

 

[ZeGerman]

Also do the inside of the rear quarter panels and doors, helps a lot.

I finished all the doors today and the rear quarter panels. Just need to add the insulation on top of it then get some butyl tape and put the vapor barrier back on the doors. Then I can finally reassemble the whole thing.

I closed up the cruiser, turned on the motor and the difference is already quite apparent. Not a single rattle and the sound transmission has been reduced by about 70~80%. That is before the carpet backing and carpet as well as all padded trim and headliner are back on. I really am looking forward to driving this thing when done.

 

[MDarius]

I don't know. I like to hear the rattling that comes before something falls off or breaks. That stuff makes me nervous.

 

[ZeGerman]

It definitely fits!! I just need to make cutouts for the trunk light as well as the sensors in the middle and enlarge the section where the compass and altimeter sit. If you had a US based FJ80, I don't see any reason why you could not do this upgrade.

I used an adjustable outfeed roller to prop the headliner up while I move stuff into position. Works really well

 

[FJRanger]

Nice work. "Stuck in the beard..." thanks for the laugh. Having an epic beard and stache myself, I'm laughing with you not at you, as I've felt the same pain

Regarding the transmission tunnel, you are on the right track.

When my 80 gas power I started the interior project because of the cats, my wife couldn't put her bare feet on the floor board. I too drove it when the interior was stripped when I noticed a tremendous amount of heat coming from the tunnel. I ended up using a combo of the damplifier pro (vibe dampener), luxury liner pro (closed cell foam) and heatwave pro (thermal barrier). All this reduced the amount of heat to the point where you can only feel it when you press down hard with your hand on the tunnel. Another thing to address concern the heat is a trans cooler. If your's doesn't have a trans cooler get one. Not sure what it is about the diesel but my auto ran hotter with the diesel then it did with the gas engine before I put the cooler back in. If you can find a wreck 80 in your area with all the parts to an oem cooler from a US model they are very efficient. Adding it will help the interior temps as well.

 

[MDarius]

Looking good! Nice work.

 

[ZeGerman]

Nice work. "Stuck in the beard..." thanks for the laugh. Having an epic beard and stache myself, I'm laughing with you not at you, as I've felt the same pain

Regarding the transmission tunnel, you are on the right track.

When my 80 gas power I started the interior project because of the cats, my wife couldn't put her bare feet on the floor board. I too drove it when the interior was stripped when I noticed a tremendous amount of heat coming from the tunnel. I ended up using a combo of the damplifier pro (vibe dampener), luxury liner pro (closed cell foam) and heatwave pro (thermal barrier). All this reduced the amount of heat to the point where you can only feel it when you press down hard with your hand on the tunnel. Another thing to address concern the heat is a trans cooler. If your's doesn't have a trans cooler get one. Not sure what it is about the diesel but my auto ran hotter with the diesel then it did with the gas engine before I put the cooler back in. If you can find a wreck 80 in your area with all the parts to an oem cooler from a US model they are very efficient. Adding it will help the interior temps as well.

Damn beard! I lost a good number of follicles pulling that crap off Im still not sure why I have the beard. It kind of coincided with the decision to get the cruiser. Now the damn thing is going from big beard to epic status. Im still not sure why Im not takin the damn thing off. It might become a permanent fixture on my face despite having to relearn how to eat especially cereal The first couple of months I considered the day to be good if nothing got stuck in/on the beard. Now its all good

I needed a new condenser anyway and I found a parts rig that had both a condenser and trans cooler so I grabbed them both. Generally for day to day drives the trans temp would read between 175 - 195. The hottest I have seen it get was going from Grand Junction CO to Vail CO. That was quite the climb and the temp peaked at 214.

The insulation is really making a huge difference. I like it. Totally worth the effort.

 

[Payara Offroad]

View attachment 1412808 It definitely fits!! I just need to make cutouts for the trunk light as well as the sensors in the middle and enlarge the section where the compass and altimeter sit. If you had a US based FJ80, I don't see any reason why you could not do this upgrade.

I used an adjustable outfeed roller to prop the headliner up while I move stuff into position. Works really well

Nice work!!!!

 

[ZeGerman]

After successfully test fitting the headliner, it came time to install carpeting. I have a new found respect for guys that install carpets into vehicles. I can say with certainty that I NEVER want to do this ever again. Between getting burned by the heat gun trying to form the carpet and getting cut up by the Cruiser itself I am sick of it. Are you even supposed to use a heat gun? Either way, its in. While my cuts may not be the straightest in the world it all gets hidden by trim pieces. I have to say that I am quite happy with the outcome. I managed to snap a quick pic before losing sun light. The front seats are in but its too dark for photos. Ill take them tomorrow. Last night we had a torrential downpour and the cabin stayed dry!! FINALLY ITS WATER TIGHT

And a big thank you to @beno for the RHD original Cruiser floor mats. They fit and look amazing!!!

 

[ZeGerman]

Made a bit more progress today. Got the door cards done with the new speaker pods. Now I can get some proper sound in there without having to have boxes and stuff taking up space. The seats look great in black. With the insulation and the door cards in its amazing how much more quiet this rig is.

Patience is definitely wearing thin but so far I am quite happy with the progress. Here some pics:

 

[WillGentry]

That looks so good!

 

[scottryana]

Great job! Which carpet is that? How's the quality?

Made a bit more progress today. Got the door cards done with the new speaker pods. Now I can get some proper sound in there without having to have boxes and stuff taking up space. The seats look great in black. With the insulation and the door cards in its amazing how much more quiet this rig is.

Patience is definitely wearing thin but so far I am quite happy with the progress. Here some pics:

 

[dirtyboots]

Very nice I like! Consider using 3m thinsulate or similar for under roof skin insulation..going through the same process and from the interwebs comes some thoughts about how a adhesive backed barrier to the roof adds weight, could effect the rigidity, like if going over washboards could cause the panel to cavitation or get wavy, etc.

When I put the headliner back in that's what ima gonna doo

eBay seems to be the best source- either way thanks for all the detail and that interior is excellent, nice work

 

[bmorgan]

I'm looking to do this. Wish I still lived in Atlanta. I'd would have been happy to lend a hand to learn before tackling it on my 80s.

Any reason why you didn't go with all black? Just curious - they appear to be the same price. And did you get 100sq feet of both the 80 mil liner (btw silver and black) and the 157 insulation?

I am considering removing my factory sound dampening (hard tar) and then bed lining. What are your thoughts on the importance of the bedliner?

Thanks for sharing and great work. Hope I don't get any in my beard.

 

[MDarius]

I think the new name of this rig is....


The Black Mambaaaaaaaa....

(And...For the theme song...)

 

[ZeGerman]

That looks so good!

Thank you!!

Great job! Which carpet is that? How's the quality?

Its black marine carpeting. The quality is not too bad. Only time will tell.

Very nice I like! Consider using 3m thinsulate or similar for under roof skin insulation..going through the same process and from the interwebs comes some thoughts about how a adhesive backed barrier to the roof adds weight, could effect the rigidity, like if going over washboards could cause the panel to cavitation or get wavy, etc.

When I put the headliner back in that's what ima gonna doo

eBay seems to be the best source- either way thanks for all the detail and that interior is excellent, nice work

The weight from the insulation on the roof is negligible. If there is anything that is very heavy on the roof then it would be the sunroof cassette. I have used the adhesive backed products in the past and put thousands of miles of mixed terrain without any issues. Between the ribs, the sunroof and the gutter along the sides the roof is pretty darn rigid. I don't see how it could possibly get wavy under any circumstance other than a rollover or similar impact.

I'm looking to do this. Wish I still lived in Atlanta. I'd would have been happy to lend a hand to learn before tackling it on my 80s.

Any reason why you didn't go with all black? Just curious - they appear to be the same price. And did you get 100sq feet of both the 80 mil liner (btw silver and black) and the 157 insulation?

I am considering removing my factory sound dampening (hard tar) and then bed lining. What are your thoughts on the importance of the bedliner?

Thanks for sharing and great work. Hope I don't get any in my beard.

Right now I am running wires, cleaning the sunroof inside out so the headliner is back out after the test fit. A few members have facetimed/skyped me to take a look at specific parts while its all open. You are more than welcome to do the same. The headliner is really not that daunting of a task that people make it out to be. Remember the first time doing the birfields? Turns out it was not that hard. Same situation here. Just PM me and Ill PM you my number.

Why not all black? I haven't the faintest idea. You are right in that they are the same price Yes 100sqft of the black and silver combined and 100sqft of the of the 157 insulation. The Previous owner ripped out the carpets and put in the truck bed liner so I did not have to do that. I would have done that also. I don't see any reason to remove the factory hard tar. Is it important to do a bedliner? Probably not. I just figure that if I ever got water in there for whatever reason, I would not have to worry about rust.

I think the new name of this rig is....


The Black Mambaaaaaaaa....

(And...For the theme song...)

LMAO!!! It is kind of becoming very black. I am however considering a respray being that my paint is total s***. The roof is practically faded to white for the most part. There is more pin striping then anything else on the sides and the hood is peeling some kind of nasty. Im considering the Toyota moon glow. I quite like that color.