Let's face it.....quality aside, the H2 is wheeling-ready.
Incredible app and dep angles
315 tires
Rear and front lockers from the dealer
Great recovery points
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Let's face it.....quality aside, the H2 is wheeling-ready.
Incredible app and dep angles
315 tires
Rear and front lockers from the dealer
Great recovery points
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I was able to break it down a bit further after I learned "W/G" on the chart means Wagon (80/100 series). So here are the LC Wagon Sales Worldwide for 2006.
Country/Sales/Percentage of Total
N. America 3605 4.36%
CS America 2519 3.05%
Europe 13405 16.21%
Africa 6781 8.20%
China 2793 3.38%
Asia 589 0.71%
Oceania (Aus) 9660 11.68%
Middle East 38831 46.96%
Japan 4,501 5.44%
So the Middle East buys 47% of all LC wagons. I'm thinking these LC200's are designed mainly for the Middle East.
However, these figures do not include the Lexus line. Add 5,595 LX470's for N. America. Not sure how many the rest of the world gets.
Country/Sales/Percentage of Total
N. America 3605 4.36%
CS America 2519 3.05%
Europe 13405 16.21%
Africa 6781 8.20%
China 2793 3.38%
Asia 589 0.71%
Oceania (Aus) 9660 11.68%
Middle East 38831 46.96%
Japan 4,501 5.44%
So the Middle East buys 47% of all LC wagons. I'm thinking these LC200's are designed mainly for the Middle East.
However, these figures do not include the Lexus line. Add 5,595 LX470's for N. America. Not sure how many the rest of the world gets.
Where would one get some real bumpers for this thing right now?
Bumpers? From my mechanic.
Bumpers? Who needs them if a coilover 4-inch lift gets slapped on?
3-inch Donohoe coilovers with 1" spacer
Front diff drop (custom)
4-inch rear OME J-springs
Yummie!
Nothing's impossible...but I think the bumpers for this thing are going to be a design challenge given the bumper to fender body seam lines. Maybe this thing won't look so big in person...but it looks very large in the photos. To each their own...but it wouldn't fit my use applications: The 100 is size marginal.
But I do like the fact it has coils up front. It would be interesting to see/know the control arm sizes...maybe retrofit to the 100...probably not but worth dreaming about.
But I do like the fact it has coils up front. It would be interesting to see/know the control arm sizes...maybe retrofit to the 100...probably not but worth dreaming about.
Oh, I agree. ARM and the others are gonna have a hay day on the bumpers!
I wrote the thing off originally when I read it's 4-inches longer. Trouble is....my 100 is at least 4-inches longer than a stock one and it does the job just fine. We'll see.
I drove a new H3 Alpha this weekend. I'd like to see it and a stock 100 in an off road challenge. Actually, the H3 was OK, it kind of felt like you were in a coffin though, due to the lack of a greenhouse. I'd never consider one because I think they're kinda gauche (Especially the H2). I was told that my Toy dealer had a new 2008 LC in, so I rushed down there Sat afternoon only to find a 2007. Quite dissapointed was I. I talked to the sales mgr and he said they were due one any day. We'll see.........
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The LC200 has crappy approach and departure numbers because Toyota is trying to meet the 2010 bumper requirements as this model will be in production for probably 6-8 years. The reason for these new requirements is to improve the compatibility with other cars during a crash. The bumper has to be lower.
I drove a new H3 Alpha this weekend. I'd like to see it and a stock 100 in an off road challenge. Actually, the H3 was OK, it kind of felt like you were in a coffin though, due to the lack of a greenhouse. I'd never consider one because I think they're kinda gauche (Especially the H2). I was told that my Toy dealer had a new 2008 LC in, so I rushed down there Sat afternoon only to find a 2007. Quite dissapointed was I. I talked to the sales mgr and he said they were due one any day. We'll see.........
I can answer this first hand. I've been along with a buddy in an H3 a few times. Twice on trails where I drove my 100 when it was stock.
It impresses me more than a FJ Cruiser. It flexes OK, has adequate ground clearance, a rear locker, and killer bumper angles. The bumper angles however are the only advantage over a stock 100.
If you were OK with a few bumper scrapes, my 100 when stock would have the edge. Larger tires, more articulation, better ground clearance, better traction control, heavier duty, etc. You would not believe where I went with my stock 100.
That said, those killer bumpers sure help the Hummers out.Ya, but the 80 owners won't want to believe this fact and will (as usual) continue to dog the Series and blame Toyota.
I drove a new H3 Alpha this weekend. I'd like to see it and a stock 100 in an off road challenge. Actually, the H3 was OK, it kind of felt like you were in a coffin though, due to the lack of a greenhouse. I'd never consider one because I think they're kinda gauche (Especially the H2). I was told that my Toy dealer had a new 2008 LC in, so I rushed down there Sat afternoon only to find a 2007. Quite dissapointed was I. I talked to the sales mgr and he said they were due one any day. We'll see.........
By the way....if the "challenge" involves an 06 or 07 with AHC (or an LX)....forget it. The 100 will kill it.
the reason i was putting the h2 down was because of things that break on it; the one i seen run was stock and ran well but the guy said his tire rods were replaced new trans b/c radiator burst and a bunch of other stuff; but also they have to have real world usage example parking garages etc but going back to the sales figures i thought asia would be higher. When i travled thru south eas asia all i seen were 100 series or 80 unless these were purchased elsewher and then brought there
about those bumpers they are gonna be costly to fabricate i guess they are gonna have to look very close to original because they cover so much At sema a few years back when the grand cherke came out they had ones from arb which looked stock but had recovery points and a winch
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Totally correct. It's really pretty cool, especially on ascents. This technology should be in other trucks by 2009 or so.
It has three speeds but these are NOT gears, just speed. So going from 3 to 1 will give you LESS power to ascend because it is only getting fuel, etc for 1 mph, not 3 mph.
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Toyota execs told me they hope to sell about 6500 in 2008 in the USA.
I was thinking the same thing. The front is just as bad if not worse...
Agreed. I can't tell you about the failures here in AZ. One H2 had a steering failure (shaft just snapped) and the cost for Hummer to Roadside Assist was $5800.
Slee's 80 rear bumper fits INSIDE his 100 rear bumper. I see the same thing happening here. $2500 Slee bumper.
you know what is surprising is that many go to the mideast so you think sand and what do you have to do in sand air down so why no option for an on board air compressor????
here is the pic i found of the grnd cher i was refering to but these are gonna cost some cash
