Events/Trails I am WHEELING the 2008 Land Cruiser today!

[OverRover]

The styling is a bit awkward in a few spots, and Rover's look soooo much better ...when they run. I have had 4 Range Rovers, and only one was dependable. I can't see a contest between the RR and the LC/LX. If your Rover classic is a good one, keep it.

 

[Brian894X4]

The thing that confuses me about this rig is that its clearly designed for and marketed towards very affluent people who could care less about off roading. These rigs will probably see less off road or even dirt road duty than the average Honda Civic...at least by the original owner...and that's all that Toyota cares about.

Toyota could care less what 2nd or 3rd owners do with their rigs 10 years from now.

So, why is Toyota spending so much time developing and marketing things that are clearly geared toward extreme off roading, such as this active stabilizier bar, multi-terrain ABS (actually I can see that being useful to soccer Mom that has a long gravel road to her mansion in the woods) and especially this crawl feature?

I mean, what buyer of this vehicle is ever going use that crawl feature? Seriously.

I'm just completely confused on the design and marketing. If they put all those things in the FJ Cruiser instead, it make far more sense. Maybe that's the plan for the next gen FJ?

Then again...Toyota put factor duel lockers in the 80 series back when they cost nearly as much these babies, with inflation factored in. And obviously, most of those buyers didn't use that feature either. When when you look at the over all design of the 80, at least it was designed for serious off road use with the duel solid axles, over built design, etc.

This rig definately is not. I'm just confused that's all.

 

[tntoyota]

The styling is a bit awkward in a few spots, and Rover's look soooo much better ...when they run. I have had 4 Range Rovers, and only one was dependable. I can't see a contest between the RR and the LC/LX. If your Rover classic is a good one, keep it.

Yeah like the 911 the transition has been tasteful.



the *new* ah, what can I call it? Toyota... has not

In future I shall refuse to call that thing a L***C*****r, as it is NOT a worthy decedent.


DILLIGAFF! (which ironically is Toyota's mission statement) YOU...NO ONE can tell me it falls in line with LC tradition!

 

[yotawheeler]

...looks like they stopped making real land cruisers when they put a end to the 80 series....i realy cant say i think much of the new 100 series or these 2008 things....though the FJ cruiser looks like it could have somthing...a guy around here wheels one...will have to see what it can do sometime...i would probably get a p/u before i bought one of these...and i could prolly buy 2 trucks for the price of that...scary thought

 

[tntoyota]

...looks like they stopped making real land cruisers when they put a end to the 80 series....i realy cant say i think much of the new 100 series or these 2008 things....though the FJ cruiser looks like it could have somthing...a guy around here wheels one...will have to see what it can do sometime...i would probably get a p/u before i bought one of these...and i could prolly buy 2 trucks for the price of that...scary thought

I said it before and I'll stand by it, a 4Runner has more practicality!


P.U is too utilitarian, the FjC is for the "people" that think they are in the same category as the Toyota THING...(LandBlob/er?) drivers, only they cant afford it!

 

[4WD Toyota Owner Magazine]

So, why is Toyota spending so much time developing and marketing things that are clearly geared toward extreme off roading, such as this active stabilizier bar, multi-terrain ABS (actually I can see that being useful to soccer Mom that has a long gravel road to her mansion in the woods) and especially this crawl feature?

I mean, what buyer of this vehicle is ever going use that crawl feature? Seriously.

I'm just completely confused on the design and marketing. If they put all those things in the FJ Cruiser instead, it make far more sense. Maybe that's the plan for the next gen FJ?

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You never heard it from me but hmmm, I told that same thing to the Toyota honchos and let's just say they were way ahead of me... Looks like 09 or so will be a good year for FJC owners and maybe even trucks! They are the ones who wheel their trucks and can use a crawl feature, that's for sure. let's wait and see....

 

[gray]

fuel door

I wonder why they moved the gasoline filler door and stuff to the passenger side.

I kind of like it on the drivers side. (I know, just bitchin' about anything)


The additional power is certainly welcome, but I think they could've asked for some styling cues from Mud.



Thanks for sharing the pics. Looks as if you had a great time.

I agree; why move the fuel door to the passengers side, like
in my FJ60 and 62?? I don't get it; so you can walk around the vehicle instead of same side you get out of?? Probably something
to do with how things fit underneath the body, and nothing to do
with what makes it easier for the owner.

I also agree; this is definitely about the most Bland looking LC we have ever seen; totally Vanilla for the masses.

From a hundred feet away, you would be hard pressed to be able
to tell what make or model it was if it was not facing you.

g

 

[gray]

most sold overseas

The thing that confuses me about this rig is that its clearly designed for and marketed towards very affluent people who could care less about off roading. These rigs will probably see less off road or even dirt road duty than the average Honda Civic...at least by the original owner...and that's all that Toyota cares about.

Toyota could care less what 2nd or 3rd owners do with their rigs 10 years from now.

So, why is Toyota spending so much time developing and marketing things that are clearly geared toward extreme off roading, such as this active stabilizier bar, multi-terrain ABS (actually I can see that being useful to soccer Mom that has a long gravel road to her mansion in the woods) and especially this crawl feature?

I mean, what buyer of this vehicle is ever going use that crawl feature? Seriously.

I'm just completely confused on the design and marketing. If they put all those things in the FJ Cruiser instead, it make far more sense. Maybe that's the plan for the next gen FJ?

Then again...Toyota put factor duel lockers in the 80 series back when they cost nearly as much these babies, with inflation factored in. And obviously, most of those buyers didn't use that feature either. When when you look at the over all design of the 80, at least it was designed for serious off road use with the duel solid axles, over built design, etc.

This rig definately is not. I'm just confused that's all.

Most of Toyota's LC production goes overseas. When driving in
places like Africa, the Middle East, South America, etc, you see LC's everywhere.
They are however, often the stripped down version compared to what they sell in the US.
I have driven HJ80's in the Middle east that came new with no rugs,
a 5 speed manual transmission, and roll up windows, no cruise control, etc; only option was AC.

I agree however, this is definitely a BlandCruiser in the looks department.

g

 

[tntoyota]

Bummer dude...



I'm on YouTube watching Camel Trophy, they (wrote the book) been selling to upscale people for years.



It just dawned on me Toyota will never compete off-road


I guess timing kept the Fj80 from competing and coping British Leyland, but one thing is for sure....the LandBlober/BlandCruiser and what is sure to follow will not



I feel bad now























On a good note! I just saved a TON of money by switching to Gieco!!

And knowing I'll never buy anything new

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

The thing that confuses me about this rig is that its clearly designed for and marketed towards very affluent people who could care less about off roading. These rigs will probably see less off road or even dirt road duty than the average Honda Civic...at least by the original owner...and that's all that Toyota cares about.

Toyota could care less what 2nd or 3rd owners do with their rigs 10 years from now.

So, why is Toyota spending so much time developing and marketing things that are clearly geared toward extreme off roading, such as this active stabilizier bar, multi-terrain ABS (actually I can see that being useful to soccer Mom that has a long gravel road to her mansion in the woods) and especially this crawl feature?

I mean, what buyer of this vehicle is ever going use that crawl feature? Seriously.

I'm just completely confused on the design and marketing. If they put all those things in the FJ Cruiser instead, it make far more sense. Maybe that's the plan for the next gen FJ?

Then again...Toyota put factor duel lockers in the 80 series back when they cost nearly as much these babies, with inflation factored in. And obviously, most of those buyers didn't use that feature either. When when you look at the over all design of the 80, at least it was designed for serious off road use with the duel solid axles, over built design, etc.

This rig definately is not. I'm just confused that's all.

It's this bull that folks said about the 100 in 1998 and then me in 2001 when I began wheeling a brand new truck. Time has proven this philosophy about the 100-series is flawed.
I'd holdout judgement on the new 2008 wither. With coilover front IFS we might see big lifts soon. Combine that with ARB lockers and somebody like me could agian show the new-Cruiser-haters just how judgemental they are.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

...looks like they stopped making real land cruisers when they put a end to the 80 series....

Dear Lord....one off-road run in my 2001 exposes what a POC an 80 (including both of mine) is in almost EVERY way.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

David: Judging from your writings it sounds like the 4-Lo crawl feature combines gas and braking in one? Gas up the rock, brakes will dropping off (and the like) while the driver does nothing?

 

[hoser]

Just look at those holes in the chassis made just to let crap in start the rust process from the inside

First thing I'd do would be to plug them and waxoyl the whole underside.

There are many holes like that on the innerside of the 100 series frame. No rusting problems to date. Perhaps it is better to vent the moisture rather than trap it in.

 

[hoser]

The thing that confuses me about this rig is that its clearly designed for and marketed towards very affluent people who could care less about off roading. These rigs will probably see less off road or even dirt road duty than the average Honda Civic...at least by the original owner...and that's all that Toyota cares about.

Here's some figures to look over... Worldwide LC sales from 1998-2006. You'll see N. America as less than 5% of total sales. Middle East at almost 27%. Oceania (i.e. Australia) at 15%. However, I think these figures include all LC lines including the 120, 90 and 70 series. What I am saying... the LC200 is not designed for North America as most of the sales will be in the Middle East and Oceania.

LC Sales Figures Worldwide

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Here's some figures to look over... Worldwide LC sales from 1998-2006. You'll see N. America as less than 5% of total sales. Middle East at almost 27%. Oceania (i.e. Australia) at 15%. However, I think these figures include all LC lines including the 120, 90 and 70 series. What I am saying... the LC200 is not designed for North America as most of the sales will be in the Middle East and Oceania.

LC Sales Figures Worldwide

Right on Hoser!

 

[r3run33]

guys lighten up no one makes the perfect veichle straight out of the box only the h2 can do stuff like that right from the dealership but it has its own problems that can go on forever but these rigs do spend most of their time in aisa australia and africa where dirt roads and wash outs are more common; you cant expect the new lc to tackle moab right away.

 

[r3run33]

hey i just watched the youtube vid of the japan lc this is my point exactly the course the lc was on is a daily occurance in some parts of the world and this new veichle is geared for them; if looked ok the guy driving looked like he was on a afternoon sunday drive.

 

[hoser]

I wonder why they moved the gasoline filler door and stuff to the passenger side.

I kind of like it on the drivers side. (I know, just bitchin' about anything)

The fuel door is almost always opposite the side of the exhaust in a single exhaust vehicle. Having the gas door on the passenger side also prevents your drivers door from getting banged up against the pump when you kick it open. One other advantage for those who drive on the right side of the road, if you ever need to fill your gas tank with a jerry can, you'll be doing it on the "safer" side, away from the road.

 

[uzj100]

Hoser, great points. The Yota guys are just giving the US market what they have already built for the rest of globe. I hope they continue to do so.

r3run33 - I hope you are joking about an h2 being good for anything except for sporting 26 inch salad shooters.

 

[FirstToy]

The LX570 will be the USA specific model, the LC is the 'budget' version- if $65K is considered 'budget'.

some more on ww sales
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=2512540&postcount=191