how to verify if rig is a factory soft top model?

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OK I think I found a pic in my archives of the OEM soft top bow piece with the room light mount. Saved this pic from an E-bay auction for a set of 1976 soft top bows. :D
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Coolerman, I responded to your other thread. But I'll comment here. The dome light and bracket you have are identical to my 4/73 hardtop. I didn't know you had a soft top. On mine the lamp bolts to the bracket with two small bolts. One of which is the ground, as your picture shows with the white/black wire with the little bolt still in it. Off the other bullet plug on the wire in that pic, a short run of probably Red/Green wire ran to another bullet connector like I described in the other thread. This connector was present at the top of the windshield frame. The wire passes through a small hole in the top of the frame, from the under side of the frame near the glass where the wiper harness turns and follows the frame over to the motor with the little clips.

My 4/73 factory hardtop does have a hole in the dash for the ST dash light, but is factory plugged with a palstic grommet. This is to the right of the glove box. Right beside this, is my factory dome light switch. The small round handled pull switch. Why it is clear over there, I don't know, pain in the butt to get in, in the dark and lean across the dash for some light if needed. But I kow that was stock location. There is a second hole, near the ashtray, that this dome light switch would also work. I thought on ST, that the switch was located there. However, I don't think the wires will reach there on mine, never tired. But the switch is always hot. From the switch I have two wires with bullet connectors that leave it. One ties into the wire in the dash loom that eventually ends up at the top of the windshield, Red/Green I think. The other was just empty, stock. I have since added an old liscense plate light I had, to a cover plate and mounted it in the glove box where the speaker hole was. So now I have light in the glove box too.

I'm currently morphing into a soft top, with an Ehsan top. I'm planning on putting one of these into the dash hole SeaSense Livewell Light - Lights - Marine Acc. - Marine & Electronics It fits the hole great. Easy hookup. Just haven't done it yet, I'm not sure how well it will distribute light in the cab yet, but being LED will be a plus, and waterproof.

The bows you have pictured have the later style, dome light in it. This would not be what the earlier body style had. That is neat though, and could easily be done. I don't know exactly how that light gets the wire routed to it, either on that bow or the hardtop, never messed with a 75 and up in that way. They have the switch right on the light though, no dash switch.
 
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A couple more pics with holes for the turn fasteners and footman loops FST?:hhmm:
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Your first pic definitely shows the RG wire. With the female connector no less. OK that answers that question. :)

Second pic shows the visor mount holes and the hole for the RG wire to exit the windshield frame. I just looked at mine and it has that hole also.

Third pic is the exit hole for the harness in the windshield frame. Harness feeds into that hole and out the bottom of the frame through a large rubber tube with a grommet molded into the end. It then feeds down through the dash where the mating wires are. I have a pic of that rubber tube if you need to see it.

Looks like you have a soft top from the other two pics.
 
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Thanks for the offer but I have a few of the rubber bulkhead feed through thingys (to be technical);)


It has just slid down the wire till I am read for install

I've got a box of mixed grommets from the Auto parts too

doing a heck of a job on the site too:grinpimp:

next job is shim removal on the steering box but I see that is all laid out for me on your site already:clap:
 
My Aussie 1968 FST has the interior light wire coming out the top of the windscreen frame, except it's red and blue?
But then only a few of the wires on my fuse box match the wiring diagrams i have found on here and your site coolerman, so it may just be an aussie cruiser thing.

Also here are a couple of pics of the clip arrangement on the inner guards of my 40.
Right side
You can also just see the four holes at the back where the foot for the hood bow bolted
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left side
There was also one of these clips mounted to the floor between the front of the wheel well and the door opening
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Edit: Also my 40 does not have the holes in the dash or in side for the safety strap. As far as i know soft doors or no doors wasn't an option here.
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Quick comment on footman loops and holes in the top rail of the tub. Probably depends on market, but I think pretty much all 40's had those until 75 or so. My 73 has all the footman loops, holes in tub lip for the twist fasteners, proper holes in the rear tub and fender for the bow brackets, and the holes in the top of the windshield frame. I also have bolts in the holes for the rear of the safety strap, but they were just filler bolts from Toyota. The bolts in the rear holes for the rear bow were also just there to fill the holes. This was stock on a factory hard top. The only item I do not have is threaded holes in the dash. The holes is there in the dash skin. The underlying door post material is solid.

It seems to me the rear tub section was made for either hard to soft top. But at some point the lines must have changed, as all the filler bolts in the rear tub, where soft top soft would bolt, were painted body color. They were not removed, but painted over at the factory. I suspect they were stuck in, and perhaps would have been removed, for use to mount the brackets for the soft top, and then it was all painted, bows and all in one shot???? Either way, at some point the cowl is different slighty, because of the non-threaded holes in the dash. The decision must be made between the rear tub assembly and final cowl assembly whether or not it was going to be a factory soft top.

But it left the option open for either top in the future on the pre 75 models.
 
My Aussie 1968 FST has the interior light wire coming out the top of the windscreen frame, except it's red and blue?
But then only a few of the wires on my fuse box match the wiring diagrams i have found on here and your site Coolerman, so it may just be an aussie cruiser thing.

Same here with the fuse box wiring colors. I thought a PO had messed with the wires, but after seeing how different the schematics are compared to the actual wiring, now I think otherwise.

Also here are a couple of pics of the clip arrangement on the inner guards of my 40.

I get that the right side clips held the jack rods right?


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There was also one of these clips mounted to the floor between the front of the wheel well and the door opening

I read somewhere on here that the clips on the left side were for the motor crank? the handle was held in place by the clip on the floor and the long part by the clips on the top of the wheel well?

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Same here with the fuse box wiring colors. I thought a PO had messed with the wires, but after seeing how different the schematics are compared to the actual wiring, now I think otherwise.



I get that the right side clips held the jack rods right?




I read somewhere on here that the clips on the left side were for the motor crank? the handle was held in place by the clip on the floor and the long part by the clips on the top of the wheel well?
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Both my 62 production FJ40s only had the clips on the passenger's for the jack handles. Nothing on the driver's side for the crank handle like in the FJ25.


Not sure when Toyota stopped including the crank handle as standard But I pretty sure the only place I've seen the clips for it the was on my FJ25s. I know the 62 soft top tub didn't have them. I would have to check my late 62 hard top to see if it has the them or the holes.

I also remembered that those red soft top brackets you got from me were off a 71 soft top model. I picked up the wiring harness off of it at the same time. Don't think I got the windshield harness but got about everthing else. Picked it up back in 1988 and stuck it in a box as a replacement harness for my 68 in case I ever needed. Only problem is it not here in town:frown: It would be at least a couple of weeks before I could check.
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