Thanks .. warn is on back order that is why I asked.... was trying to find some shop that had one instock. I did find one in AZ and got it.
How many JEEP fans live on IH8MUD??, Most comments are understandably TOYOTA biased...
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Thanks .. warn is on back order that is why I asked.... was trying to find some shop that had one instock. I did find one in AZ and got it.
As well as the 79 I have a TJ currently off the road for 9" swap and a nearly stock one for my wife
If I were to buy a Jeep, I would try to find a Brute. It’s the one Jeep product that every middle-aged women and teenaged girl isn’t driving in town. 
AEV made the Brute.If I were to buy a Jeep, I would try to find a Brute. It’s the one Jeep product that every middle-aged women and teenaged girl isn’t driving in town.
AEV Brute - Wikipedia
I would love a TJ Rubicon Brute
@87warrior .... “AEV made the Brute.”
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Yep I get that. I referred to it as a “Jeep Product” simply because it’s basically a converted Jeep. Didn’t mean to imply that it was converted by Jeep.
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Yep I get that. I referred to it as a “Jeep Product” simply because it’s basically a converted Jeep. Didn’t mean to imply that it was converted by Jeep.
cruiserinsanity
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Jeep’s have their place. However, I’m one of those with the mindset that “real” Jeeps died when AMC sold out. Of course, Toyota is better.
392 Hemi JKU on 40s and 1 ton axles w/ coilovers....enough said.
I would disagree with one of the previous posts about AMC "selling out", I had (my brother still has it) the last CJ5 sold by Delph's garage and jeep dealership in Waukegan Il. AMC did nothing for Jeep, they scavenged parts from other sources (Motorcraft carbs, GM ignition, GM steering, third party (Tremac) trans.) and put them together into what Willys had started. Chrysler re-engineered Jeep into the first coil sprung Jeep and it was a huge success. There are more than a few that would argue that the TJ (and LJ) line up was the best Jeep ever produced. The above post with the 392 is awesome, but for the average working guy a $75,000 Jeep is ridiculous and not a possibility. The TJ series was far more blue collar and far and above more capable than my old CJ5 ever was........
cruiserinsanity
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I disagree with your statement of “AMC did nothing for Jeep” AMC introduced the CJ7, CJ8, YJ, XJ Cherokee and MJ Commanche. The XJ was perhaps one of the best selling Jeep’s of the 20th century, both under AMC and Chrysler. AMC also designed the 4.0 inline six that the XJ, YJ, and TJ are known for. AMC made a truly utilitarian 4x4 that didn’t have every comfort feature that people believe is necessity today. 90% of the people I see driving newer Jeep’s now have never taken them off pavement, and don’t want to. However, 80% of the XJs I see are covered in mud. The demographic of Jeep buyers has simply changed, there’s nothing wrong with that, it is what it is.
I stand corrected, I did not take into account the XJ, MJ, etc. although I think the YJ, however necessary as a transition model to get to the TJ platform was a good model. Also I believe the 4.0 was developed by Chrysler, AMC used the 258 (which was a good motor but ultimately had the same short comings as the 4.0 of low power, limited ability to be modified to produce more power but of legendary longevity). The CJ7 was a “forced” modification after the media made the “documentary” “Unsafe At Any Speed” where they intentionally drove a CJ5 in a manner to make it roll over.
Good discussion!
Good discussion!
pb4ugo
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AMC introduced the CJ7 in 1976. 76 was a major redesign. Prior to 76, the frame rails were open "C" channel design and the rails were essentially the same width frt to rear and most axles were dana 44 rears and dana 30's in the frt. 76 and later models went to sheetmetal enclosed box frames and the rear of the frame was widened. The wheel base went from cj5's 85" to 94" in the CJ7. They were advertised as being more roomy. The added length helped the cj7's capabilities. I believe the 76 models had drum brakes in the frt and 77 went to disc's. They were offered with the t150 3 speed and the rare wide ratio t18 trans. 1985 was the last yr of CJ5 &7. I'm pretty sure the YJ was introduced in 1987 and was chrysler/amc's fix of the rigged roll over issue documented by a tv show, I think it was 60 minutes. I dont think Chrysler was a 100% owner of jeep yet. The yj's frame was a thinner sheetmetal boxed frame and the frt was widened to the same width as the rear. The axles were widened from approx 56" to 60". The 1st yjs had crap drive lines and carbed 6cylndrs. In the early 90's the fi 4.0l's, ax15's tranny, and the high pinion dana 30 came out and were a good improvements. The rear dana 35 was a pos. The tjs were cool and flexible in the beginning, but then the frames started failing where the links were attached to the frame. The bodies are iffy and frames started rotting. Current jeeps axles are questionable with extremely thin axle tubes which bend and tear. It's unfortunate I know this crap. This is what happens when your the lone 40 owner amongst 4 wheeling friends who own cjs and going to the University of Toledo during the introduction of the yj. This is when cj parts were literally flying out the windows of the jeep assembly plant.
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I just purchased a new to me 04 rubicon to go long with my LX, sequoia and ZR2
I have a 2005 LJ Rubicon I purchased new. I have learned a lot on this thread, thank you! But I am still partial to the TJ era, yes, my 83 CJ5 had a boxed frame but it rode like crap and my LJ articulates off road much better than the leaf spring suspension(s) that I had on my CJ....but to each his own.....
Bone stock 2013 JK auto with the 3.6 pentastar engine. This was the day we bought it at the local Toyota dealer. Had 19k miles then(2015) and has 70k now. Drives great and its used as a daily driver getting 22mpg all around. I live two miles from paved roads so it gets its share of dirt and mud daily. It has held up great so far. Absolutely no plans to modify and it will stay stock for practical reasons.
In the 76-79 CJ5/CJ7, the T150 3speed was standard, the T18 was optional. But (in 1976) the T18 was the close ratio: 4.02:1 1st gear. My 1976 CJ5 came with the close ratio T18 (reverse over and up) In 1977-1979, the T18 was the wide ratio, 6.32:1 first gear. Reverse over and down. The transfer cases were Dana 20's 1972-1979. Dana 18's prior to that. 1980-86 were all Dana 300's. Actually, I find that the close ratio version of the T18 is somewhat of the oddball. The T18 (and T19) was used by many auto/truck makers.
1980-1986 saw a bevy of different manual transmissions: SR4/T4 (4spd), T5 (5spd/OD), and T176/177 (4spd). Of the bunch, IMHO, the T176/177 was the best. It was a medium duty truck transmission, while the others were lighter duty.
The CJ7 and (later) CJ8 also offered an automatic transmission (GM TH400 1976-79 paired with the Quadratrac 4wd system. TF999 (I6 & V8), TF904 (I4) 1980-1986 paired with the Dana 300 transfer case. No CJ5's came from the factory with automatic transmissions, due to the really short rear driveshaft needed. Although a few have found their way into them.
1986 model year, was the last production for the CJ series. The CJ5 ended production with the 1983 model year. All CJ5's were narrow track, but the CJ7 became a wide track in the 1982 model.
The YJ debuted with the 1987 model year, had a good run until the end of the 1995 model year. Which also ended the era of leaf sprung Jeeps (CJs - YJs). Then the TJ took over with the 1996 model year, and ended production July 2006.
My first was a ‘72 back in high school. Sold it when I went in the Navy. My ‘79, that I posted back on page one of this thread, is all apart right now. I’m building a 360 for it and it is also getting a Ford T-18A and a Scout Dana 300. I’m also putting the A/C back together, TBI, and some other things.
Oh, and we picked up an 06 Wrangler Sport for my Stepson. 4.0, 6 speed manual, Dana 44 rear, hardtop.
Hells revenge in a barbie jeep .. Those plastic tires gave slick rock a whole new meaning. Just like a jeep it broke the frt axle in about 10 mins!! I have video of it somewhere.
Big fan of Jeeps...as long as they have a Toyota drivetrain, powerplant, and suspension. 
