HIR Bulbs
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I am in for a pair of the 9011's. I paid 25.99 for the 9012's from JD
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Update:
I contacted the manufacture and there is no way for me to bypass the distributer. The good news is that I followed up on PPC's info on the Avalanche, and was able to get a good price on some 9011's. Note that only some Avalanches use the bulbs, others use a 9005. I will post the part number later (I left it in the car). Bottom line is that the GM dealer is able to get them for me at $27.00 a piece (plus tax) if I order several at a time. I would expect that since there is a GM dealer local to everyone, that it may be equally economical for everyone to buy the high beams at their local dealer. I did go ahead and order 2 extra pairs (they were able to get 4 pairs same day), so for the people that want them I can sell you a pair for $70 shipped to your door. The order that poeple expressed interest was:
Shocker
Warthog
LT
NW Sickboy
Boydmick
Mr. Bryan
Lonestar
If you want to purchase the 9011's from the dealer, I won't be offended (in fact it will save me time), but I can order more if more than two people want to buy them, or can't get them locally.
I had two people express interest in the 9012 bulbs
NW Sickboy
Boydmick
and would need two more people to confirm their want of the 9012 bulbs before I would order them. Cost would be the same $70 per pair delivered.
Cary
I contacted the manufacture and there is no way for me to bypass the distributer. The good news is that I followed up on PPC's info on the Avalanche, and was able to get a good price on some 9011's. Note that only some Avalanches use the bulbs, others use a 9005. I will post the part number later (I left it in the car). Bottom line is that the GM dealer is able to get them for me at $27.00 a piece (plus tax) if I order several at a time. I would expect that since there is a GM dealer local to everyone, that it may be equally economical for everyone to buy the high beams at their local dealer. I did go ahead and order 2 extra pairs (they were able to get 4 pairs same day), so for the people that want them I can sell you a pair for $70 shipped to your door. The order that poeple expressed interest was:
Shocker
Warthog
LT
NW Sickboy
Boydmick
Mr. Bryan
Lonestar
If you want to purchase the 9011's from the dealer, I won't be offended (in fact it will save me time), but I can order more if more than two people want to buy them, or can't get them locally.
I had two people express interest in the 9012 bulbs
NW Sickboy
Boydmick
and would need two more people to confirm their want of the 9012 bulbs before I would order them. Cost would be the same $70 per pair delivered.
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Cary -
Thanks again for your work leading this project. If you'll post the GM part number, I'll order some 9011's locally and save you the time/trouble of shipping something cross country.
Do you know if they'll need the emery board treatment like the John Deere's did?
LT
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Thanks again for your work leading this project. If you'll post the GM part number, I'll order some 9011's locally and save you the time/trouble of shipping something cross country.
Do you know if they'll need the emery board treatment like the John Deere's did?
LT
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Cary
Thanks for all your effort with the lights!
I ordered a pair through my local chevy dealer after I saw your first post to save time / trouble.
Didn't even ask price, since the one Hella went out last night.
Hopefully these will last.....
Joe
Thanks for all your effort with the lights!
I ordered a pair through my local chevy dealer after I saw your first post to save time / trouble.
Didn't even ask price, since the one Hella went out last night.
Hopefully these will last.....
Joe
So I go to pick the HIR's up, the asshat JD dealer parts idiot thought he would add $5 shiping and handling on top of the price......I told him to keep em, said my Toyota dealer doesn't charge me shiping and handling on parts from Portland......so don't play me the fool and try to rip me off. I also mentioned my buddy runs a fleet of JD's................funny how he saw the light and waived the shiping and handling charge(which I am sure was pure BS anyway)
But I swaped em for the 80 watters.........took a drive at night and they seem like they are as good or better than the 80 watt.
When filling down the tab, only take it off the top, no need to take it off the side(of tab) to make it look like a stock bulb........it fits fine being longer
I also hear that some new Toyotas(Camery?) come with HIR's as well as the Didge viper.
John
[quote author=Landpimp link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg111950#msg111950 date=1077933157]
I was quoted $32 today for the JD HIR's from the local JD shop, were did you get the $28 list price, would be nice to be able to show em that......I hate list prices
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But I swaped em for the 80 watters.........took a drive at night and they seem like they are as good or better than the 80 watt.
When filling down the tab, only take it off the top, no need to take it off the side(of tab) to make it look like a stock bulb........it fits fine being longer
I also hear that some new Toyotas(Camery?) come with HIR's as well as the Didge viper.
John
[quote author=Landpimp link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg111950#msg111950 date=1077933157]
I was quoted $32 today for the JD HIR's from the local JD shop, were did you get the $28 list price, would be nice to be able to show em that......I hate list prices
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i only need the 9011s .... Thanks a ton for all your info... hope there wasnt any confusion..... what was that part number for the GM 9011?
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But I swaped em for the 80 watters.........took a drive at night and they seem like they are as good or better than the 80 watt.
When filling down the tab, only take it off the top, no need to take it off the side(of tab) to make it look like a stock bulb........it fits fine being longer
John
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When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
Thanks
Cary
But I swaped em for the 80 watters.........took a drive at night and they seem like they are as good or better than the 80 watt.
When filling down the tab, only take it off the top, no need to take it off the side(of tab) to make it look like a stock bulb........it fits fine being longer
John
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When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
Thanks
Cary
hmmm.... well.. put me back in line for the JDs then.... low beams only.. thanks agian..when do you need the CASH.... and how do you want ?
on the 2nd one, yes....I just took off a bit(1/16th?) of the top, not the side(left if holding base towards you) The 1st one I made look just like the one that it replaced, but then relaized it didn't need to.
[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113507#msg113507 date=1078197050]
When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
Thanks
Cary
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[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113507#msg113507 date=1078197050]
When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
Thanks
Cary
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ppc
M Go Blue
[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113505#msg113505 date=1078196955]
GM 9011 IS NOT AN HIR. I went to pick up the bulbs and they are not HIR bulbs. They are made in Germany and look like a 9005 bulb on a 9011 base, but are not an HIR1. Back to the drawing board.
Cary
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I was waiting for the second one to come in before I picked them up. Why do you think they are not HIR, lack of coating? I haven't seen the JD HIR2's yet but I'm going to pick those up first.
GM 9011 IS NOT AN HIR. I went to pick up the bulbs and they are not HIR bulbs. They are made in Germany and look like a 9005 bulb on a 9011 base, but are not an HIR1. Back to the drawing board.
Cary
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I was waiting for the second one to come in before I picked them up. Why do you think they are not HIR, lack of coating? I haven't seen the JD HIR2's yet but I'm going to pick those up first.
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The bulb has to be the funny shape as shown in the GE link and as posted by another poster. The IR coating reflects back into the center of the filament, hence the spherical bulb. The GM ones lack the coating and don't have the spherical shape.
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[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113507#msg113507 date=1078197050]
When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
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Cary -
I did the same thing -- just filed the top of the tab on the John Deere HIR and left the tab wider than the stock bulb base. Fits just fine
If the GM high-beam bulb is NOT an HIR that I can order to save me time and you trouble, I would like to go ahead with the group purchase from your contact. Let me know however you want to proceed.
thanks
LT 8)
When you say you took off the top, you mean you filed the top but left it wide?
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Cary -
I did the same thing -- just filed the top of the tab on the John Deere HIR and left the tab wider than the stock bulb base. Fits just fine
If the GM high-beam bulb is NOT an HIR that I can order to save me time and you trouble, I would like to go ahead with the group purchase from your contact. Let me know however you want to proceed.
thanks
LT 8)
I saw this......
"Whats the deal with HIR bulbs?
They were invented by General Electric a few years ago. An HIR bulb differs from a standard Halogen bulb by the fact that they have a reflective infra red coating with primary purpose of reflecting heat back to the filament.
They are being markeded under these names:
9011 HIR1, high beam, 2500lm bright at 13,2 (+/-15%) Volts
9012 HIR2, low beam, 1875lm bright at 13,2 (+/-15%) Volts
For physical dimansions, goto: http://152.119.239.10/docimages/pdf37/58377_web.pdf
For performance data, see: http://www.gelighting.com/na/downloads/hir1techsheet1.pdf
So far its used on OEM applications only: Dodge Vipers high beams and Toyota Camry (unofficial). Dont excpect them to show up at Pep Boys or Canadian Tire anytime soon. Go to a Viper dealer, John Deere tractor dealer, or the Toyota dealer, or any other authorized GE dealer that carries automotive line bulbs. Price on each bulb is probably around what an HID bulb goes for, USD 100-200.
On the aftermarked, an HIR bulb has showd up in the 9005 and 9006 base version, which is different from 9011 and 9012 base standard. It is markedet under the "Polarg" brand name. Check out SPW Industries for details. The question is if Polarg is using the GE glasspack and selling them under their own name, or if its their in house brand. Generally, Polarg products have avarage quality, so our speculations goes towards the latter. The first quarter of 2003, the japanese company Vestec also started selling a product that may also very well go into the HIR category: "HID-R Day Light 9006" IF YOU WANT THE REAL HIR bulbs get the original GE HIR bulbs and re-base them with correct focal position to work in your fixtures on your car."
from
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-filament-bulbs.htm
"Whats the deal with HIR bulbs?
They were invented by General Electric a few years ago. An HIR bulb differs from a standard Halogen bulb by the fact that they have a reflective infra red coating with primary purpose of reflecting heat back to the filament.
They are being markeded under these names:
9011 HIR1, high beam, 2500lm bright at 13,2 (+/-15%) Volts
9012 HIR2, low beam, 1875lm bright at 13,2 (+/-15%) Volts
For physical dimansions, goto: http://152.119.239.10/docimages/pdf37/58377_web.pdf
For performance data, see: http://www.gelighting.com/na/downloads/hir1techsheet1.pdf
So far its used on OEM applications only: Dodge Vipers high beams and Toyota Camry (unofficial). Dont excpect them to show up at Pep Boys or Canadian Tire anytime soon. Go to a Viper dealer, John Deere tractor dealer, or the Toyota dealer, or any other authorized GE dealer that carries automotive line bulbs. Price on each bulb is probably around what an HID bulb goes for, USD 100-200.
On the aftermarked, an HIR bulb has showd up in the 9005 and 9006 base version, which is different from 9011 and 9012 base standard. It is markedet under the "Polarg" brand name. Check out SPW Industries for details. The question is if Polarg is using the GE glasspack and selling them under their own name, or if its their in house brand. Generally, Polarg products have avarage quality, so our speculations goes towards the latter. The first quarter of 2003, the japanese company Vestec also started selling a product that may also very well go into the HIR category: "HID-R Day Light 9006" IF YOU WANT THE REAL HIR bulbs get the original GE HIR bulbs and re-base them with correct focal position to work in your fixtures on your car."
from
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-filament-bulbs.htm
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IdahoDoug: I Believe that HID lamps are long and narrow because they are an arc lamp. Since there is no filiament, the thin bulb shape is used to control the arc and keep the focusing precise. All Arc lamps I have seen are this way, including the 10 watt Welch-Allen unit for my Bicycle.
XL175: Unless somebody packaged the wrong bulbs in the boxes, the GM bulbs are not HIR Bulbs. The parts guy is going to call me back today with further information, I gave him the GE sheet to show what the part should look like. The only other confirmed fitment for a 9011HIR is the 2001+ Dodge Viper and the part is $125 from a Dodge Dealer.
GE Glasspacks: General Electric no longer makes the HIR bulbs (I called them to try and set up a distributorship for better prices). The Bulbs are now made by Toshiba-Harrison. I contacted them directly, but they only sell them through candlepowerinc.com (the distributor that will give a break on pricing if we buy 5 pairs or more). BTW, Candlepower inc is also the US distributor for Narva bulbs. I found the Vetec stuff, but it all looks like ricer crap, and I couldn't find any HIR bulbs.
Cary
XL175: Unless somebody packaged the wrong bulbs in the boxes, the GM bulbs are not HIR Bulbs. The parts guy is going to call me back today with further information, I gave him the GE sheet to show what the part should look like. The only other confirmed fitment for a 9011HIR is the 2001+ Dodge Viper and the part is $125 from a Dodge Dealer.
GE Glasspacks: General Electric no longer makes the HIR bulbs (I called them to try and set up a distributorship for better prices). The Bulbs are now made by Toshiba-Harrison. I contacted them directly, but they only sell them through candlepowerinc.com (the distributor that will give a break on pricing if we buy 5 pairs or more). BTW, Candlepower inc is also the US distributor for Narva bulbs. I found the Vetec stuff, but it all looks like ricer crap, and I couldn't find any HIR bulbs.
Cary
Cary, the owner of CandlePower is a client of ours
[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113774#msg113774 date=1078243732]
GE Glasspacks: General Electric no longer makes the HIR bulbs (I called them to try and set up a distributorship for better prices). The Bulbs are now made by Toshiba-Harrison. I contacted them directly, but they only sell them through candlepowerinc.com (the distributor that will give a break on pricing if we buy 5 pairs or more). BTW, Candlepower inc is also the US distributor for Narva bulbs. I found the Vetec stuff, but it all looks like ricer crap, and I couldn't find any HIR bulbs.
Cary
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[quote author=cary link=board=2;threadid=12192;start=msg113774#msg113774 date=1078243732]
GE Glasspacks: General Electric no longer makes the HIR bulbs (I called them to try and set up a distributorship for better prices). The Bulbs are now made by Toshiba-Harrison. I contacted them directly, but they only sell them through candlepowerinc.com (the distributor that will give a break on pricing if we buy 5 pairs or more). BTW, Candlepower inc is also the US distributor for Narva bulbs. I found the Vetec stuff, but it all looks like ricer crap, and I couldn't find any HIR bulbs.
Cary
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