Downey
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I will be just fine knowing that many of you got away with boost (good for you), and that I spent the rest of my days on earth having never spent money to repair Boost Carnage!!
has anyone supercharged a 2f?
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Any time you massage a motor for more power it will lose some longevity. My 40 has been turbo'ed for ~5ish years or so. It works very well for me and you can ask Mark about it, I flog that truck.
If the motor blows, I can probably find someone (that you convinced that a V8 is the only option in the world for power) that wants to get rid of their boat anchor for free
I already have two spares
One of these days, I'll hook an atlas and the auto up to the 2F. then it'll be niiiccceee.....
twoturtlesracing
Slowwly but surely...
Agreed Mr. Downey!
Mr Jim of Downey,
I agree totally with a difference in weight, which in turn= better power to weight ratio! No argument with that, and many of those hot rodders I was talking about happened to use the exact motor that you are suggesting! They're a great motor. Helped my dad build one into a 383 Stroker. My thoughts are only for someone who is asking about putting a supercharger on a 2F. If he's going to do something besides Toyota, The SBC is a great motor, cheap to work on and etc. Bulldog, best of luck in your quest for power!!!!
to All!
P.S. I hate the fact that I can't order from a Downey catolog anymore Jim!
Mr Jim of Downey,
I agree totally with a difference in weight, which in turn= better power to weight ratio! No argument with that, and many of those hot rodders I was talking about happened to use the exact motor that you are suggesting!
They're a great motor. Helped my dad build one into a 383 Stroker. My thoughts are only for someone who is asking about putting a supercharger on a 2F. If he's going to do something besides Toyota, The SBC is a great motor, cheap to work on and etc. Bulldog, best of luck in your quest for power!!!! to All!P.S. I hate the fact that I can't order from a Downey catolog anymore Jim!
we're talking 40 series here tho. if weight were a concern... we'd drive jeeps.
gotta be something said for all that inertia of a big heavy crank, a big flywheel and 6 big heavy rods spinning. makes it lug nice.
that was all well and good back then, but this is 2009. forced induction has come ALONG way. i mean just look at the first gen factory turbo cars out of Japan. peaky, tempremental, and really not pushing out that much power all up. fast forward to today, and the wonders of technology see 2 litre 4's put out more, reliable power than a small block chev, and 4 litre 6's put out more torque than a Gen 4.
and yes, all these technologies filter down into the aftermarket. back when downey was testing boost "in the old days", boost regulation would have seen a turbo/supercharger "limited to" 6 pound see spikes of 14 pound because boost controllers were primitive. Fuel maps couldn't keep up, leaning out caused predetonation etc. and you ended up with a ball of molten slag.
today we understand so much more about what works and doesn't work for boost that it's not a black art anymore. hell, a 20 year old with a welder and an ebay account can probably end up building a boosted motor for almost any car and have it hold together for years.
Yes the 2f has crank support issues, so you can't run as much boost as the import tuners, but you can certainly liven the old girl up reliably, and cost-effectively.
twoturtlesracing
Slowwly but surely...
Agreed! All the way! Notice I didn't say I was going to go with a SBC... There's a reason for that!
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Downey
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Okee-Dokee, I concede, BUT most the post I've read on Mud deal with guys considering installation of add-on forced induction onto their old school engines with stock internals.
but even old school engines with stock internals have a much better chance of lasting if boost control is more accurate, and the risk of leaning out under boost is minimised.
supercharged 2f
hi yes i am new please do not hold that against me but do have some good feed back from superchaging the toyota 2f and the news is better than a sbc 400.
hi yes i am new please do not hold that against me but do have some good feed back from superchaging the toyota 2f and the news is better than a sbc 400.
I assume when everyone is talking Superchargers they are talking screw/Roots-type blowers? What about a simple belt driven centrifugal type, like ProCharger? Less boost that a Roots-type but that seems to be what everyone is saying the 2F can handle. Does not seem like that would be a very technically difficult install, either.
I assume when everyone is talking Superchargers they are talking screw/Roots-type blowers? What about a simple belt driven centrifugal type, like ProCharger? Less boost that a Roots-type but that seems to be what everyone is saying the 2F can handle. Does not seem like that would be a very technically difficult install, either.
A centrifugal setup does not produce the low end of a roots or a properly sized turbo.
Funny thing, I see everyone talking about engine swaps and weak pinions. Lets do this then, lets return our rigs to stock because obviously this hobby/ sport is not about trial and error or modifications.
Mace's setup has worked now for nearly 7 years on the propane, I'm probably going to do it to because of the overwhelming number of 2F's that I can get around her for less than $100.00 dollars. Just need to build a flange and a setup for the draw through carb.
Go figure, I like my 2F and I think it gets a bad rap from all of the swap guys out there.
Nothing like a turbo at altitude too, nothing.
matty_sunn1 said:
800 ho 2jzgtes do not make any usable power until 5k RPM
Bottom line power, your Best best option is an ls2 or ls3
There are so many combinations out there to make that power and they all sacrifice drivability and require many mods to make the stock power of the ls2 or ls3 v8.
How about nitrous 2f...
2JZGTE
Was just talking about this yesterday. Buddy I mine said we should put a 2JZGTE in a FJ. I told him he was nuts! I have over 400rwhp in my IS300 and its even to much to handle. Would be interesting to see a FJ doing a burn out though.
Was just talking about this yesterday. Buddy I mine said we should put a 2JZGTE in a FJ. I told him he was nuts! I have over 400rwhp in my IS300 and its even to much to handle. Would be interesting to see a FJ doing a burn out though.
yes it is a roots style eaton m90 running a simple serpentine belt. the worst thing with the 2f is the lack of engine balance on three conrods there was up to 80grams difference but since having the motor balance done it runs very smooth.
More info and some pics please.
hello waiting for time i originally started with a toyota supercharger running 10" pulley on the crank and 2" runnig a holley 465 was a over 50% power increase until the shaft on the supercharger sheared off on the highway. any how thats when i bought an eaton m90 and swapped to gas using the 465 base with impco 425 mixer much better response running a blow thru system have been using this set up for 5 years. i will try to attach a few photos.
. Very interesting setup.
Very cool. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for posting.
I have the same theory in my mind that you build.
I think most of the forces will be compensated by balancing the engine.
I own a MB with a SC engine and it gives me lots of low end torque so I figured it would be perfect on a 2F. So thank you for proving me right.
Do you use a magnetic clutch on the pulley?
How did it effect the fuell milage?
How much does it charge?
