half doors with pocket cubby idea

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let me start this with, Hi, My name is Kelly, and I am an FJ addict.

I have looked and listened, and added a few comments here and there, but this is my first thread that I have started with a project idea that I did not copy from another posting. Someone may have done this, but I did not find it online. So, this is my original twist on an common project. It all started with a desire to have half doors. The PO had purchased from Ebay a nice straight set of relatively rust free early 70’s doors. They were primed on front, and looked really nice. Knowing that there was not going to be windows, I felt like there was a lot of wasted space inside the door panel. I also know myself enough to know that I really could use some extra space to put papers, pens, etc. So, I thought that I would make some inserts for the doors. The second issue became apparent when I found a good 3/8 of bondo on the doors under the primer – yes primer hides all sorts of sins. Both of my doors have a concave nature to them. So, I needed some way to give them some more structure. My final issue with many of the half doors that I have seen on MUD is that with all of the different bends in the original inside doors skins, when you just put a new cap on the top of the door, it looked messy and you could not of imagined it coming off the factory line like that.

My issue with the inserts was how could I protect them from rust. I looked through a junkyard, and could not find anything close to what I wanted. I could make them from metal, but I didn’t think I could paint them completely if I made a pocket 8” deep, and still be able to weld them on. (I don’t want phantom rattles) One day I was looking at my shelf and I saw an stack of old stainless steel paper towel dispensers – the kind from commercial restrooms that were stocked with 3”x 10” folded towels. I thought that if the frame were narrower, they would be perfect…. Stainless steel, no need to paint them, and rust will not be an issue. Now, before you say this is way too difficult, or “you have to be an awesome welder” – the way this goes together, all the welds on the paper towel dispenser are not visable when you are done, so they can be as ugly as possible. Also, when completed the “viewable” section of the dispenser is actually the inside of the cover (hinged piece that you typically would have seen the outside of when looking at it hanging on the wall) As you can imagine, this would not of got any abuse, and all of mine were in excellent condition with no scratches. Also, the depth does not need to be precise, because this cover overlaps the stainless frame. This gives you a good ½ of movement. I did not weld these pieces together until my final fit, so I could give some pressure (structure) to my door to keep the outside straighter.

I kind of skipped ahead there, so let me back up. With nothing to loose, I marked one of the towel holders with some estimated cut lines, cut them with a cutoff wheel,
banged on them for a while to make the bends, then welded them up. Honestly, they look ugly, but again, these will not be visable.
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door cuts

For cutting the door, I wanted to clean up all of the messy indentions on the door, to make it as clean as possible. I left the bottom two indents in the door, and I wanted to keep the original hardware, less the outside handle, so I left enough on the door to keep the mounting bracket. This was a deeper part of the door, so I bent it down, by putting a 1.5” angle iron scrap in the door temporarily and made a bend to contact my new skin. So, the hinge side, bottom were the same level, and the striker side was bent down the ¼ inch to meet my new skin.

I bent a profile I liked for the door on a brake at a local school out of .060 metal. I wanted on the outside to be a nice tight profile, so I made two 45 degree bends about 3/16 apart to get my outside bend. On the inside, I thought that a nice half round looked good, so I made 8 markes about 1/8 apart, and basically made 12 degree bends on each one. This made a nice rounded profile.

After a lot of cutting and fitting, I had my main piece that I allowed to extend as far as I could across the door to add some additional structure to my door. Then, for the opening for the stainless cubby, I cut an opening ½ smaller on each side, then bent the metal back. This made a great easy paint line. On the bottom of the opening, I did not crimp the metal tight until I slid the frame of the cubby under it, making a smooth transition.
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Oh, I forgot, after I did all the rust repair, and filled the holes on the cut door, I por 15'd the inside of the doors.
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more again

After tacking welding all this in place, ( I also drilled some weep holes in the section that would be hidden under the diagonal section) it was time for the diagonal piece to go in. Again, after some cutting and fitting, welded this into place.
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finished

I am very happy with it, and although I know I spent a ridiculous amount of time on it, (and I still have to do the drivers door) I was amazed at how simple it looks. It incorporates the stock Toyota elements, and a nice straight center section. If I squint just right, it looks like it could have been a factory option door.

I hope you find some inspiration in this for your half door project.

Kelly
FJ-aholic


my build thread:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/ks-mo-tornado-alley-cruisers/226113-has-begun.html
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Good idea, and one I haven't seen before. Nice work!
 
I might have to come see those in person. Good job, Kelly!:beer: There is a set sitting in the garage just waiting to be carved up. ;)


Ed
 
Always a beer ready for you Ed.

Kelly
 
update on pics

Just looking at the pictures of the cubbies above, there is not a dark line inside of them, that is just shadows from the flash/camera. All you see looking in is the brushed stainless steel.

I don't think I posted this picture of the frame welded to the new skin before I installed it into the door. This may give you a good look at the original outside of the paper towel holder and understand how I did this.

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nice work

really nice work--that's something to be proud of

A couple suggestions ----A net over that would be cool and hold stuff in. a bit of foam in the bottom would keep stuff from rattling

but you totally messed up ---youll never be able to roll the window up now:)
 

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