TeddyBoy
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It was great to meet everyone and I had an awesome time at GSMTR this year. Thanks for all your hard work and here's to the start of a beautiful friendship!
Hey Sam, I think you owe me a beer list!
RSHARPfzj80
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Had a great time guys! Let the planning begin for the next ride!
Anyone know where it's gonna be next year? I heard it might be moving.
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See Coal Creek Ride thread, we will be evaluating CC to see if it is a better venue.
I have been to several events at Coal Creek and I believe the varied option of trails is far superior. However the ponds, playground, and pavilion made Golden very nice for the kids in attendance. I was not that stoked on the wheeling at Golden Mtn.
That's out biggest concern if you not in a hard core rig there's not a lot to wheel if you are in a hard core rig you can wheel every trail in 2 days
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I personally find that Golden Mountain is a very good park. I have plenty of mud and easy trails at home and this park gives me a good dose of rocks and still offers some moderately easy trails to cruise on.
The cost to ride is a similar conundrum at Coal Creek. Lots more trails to ride on without ever repeating one in a week, but the price per person per day makes riding the trails for a week cost-prohibitive. If the pricing schedule is the same during GSMTR, we will likely only come up for 1-2 days.
Even more of a catch-22 with all of the above in consideration is that, unless you do come for more than 2-3 days, you may only get to see 3-4 trails. Not only are the trails long and spread out, they can be very technical and time consuming even for a smaller group.
So, pay through the nose to have the opportunity to tackle more trails or go easy on the wallet and risk only seeing a tiny fraction of what Windrock has to offer? It's a pickle, no doubt.
Hopefully there will end up being a significant group discount.
CruiseOrlando
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Also keep this in mind - you might not want to / be able to wheel every day. You might decide to camp for 5 days, wheel for 3. So only pay for 3 days of wheeling, spend the others having fun or whatever.
Problem is (from what I understand) they charge per person, not per vehicle. So if you decide not to wheel, technically you also can't ride.
I think I figured it up to be about a $30 extra charge over the 5 days I paid for this year.
Problem is (from what I understand) they charge per person, not per vehicle. So if you decide not to wheel, technically you also can't ride.
I think I figured it up to be about a $30 extra charge over the 5 days I paid for this year.
TeddyBoy
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Yes^^^ 5 very capable trucks, 1 trail -- all day.
This can make vehicle recovery a very long ways from camp and extremely difficult. One of the best aspects of GMP is that camp is so close and accessible therefore very easy to limp a rig back for repairs. Frankly, not sure if this is even possible at Windrock in some cases.
Like i said in the other thread Windrock is a great place, both parks have their strengths and weaknesses and either is a good choice. Rest assured--We'll all have a good time again no matter where it's at.
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BMThiker said:
Let's look at the numbers. The average person rode 3 days at GSMTR 2012.and could only ride 30% of the trails. The 3 day pass is $44 so for 2 people( average number) that's $88.
At GM you would have paid $30. Add to that $20 we will most likely be able to lower registration because event costs will be lower and you are only paying $38 dollars more to be able to ride 100 miles of trail instead of 5 miles at GM is it worth it I think so but everyone will have to make there own decision. As for the people that come for 6 days yes they will pay more but will be able to ride different trails every day instead of the same trails every day.
Well, I guess that settles it. You guys will just have to put on two events next year!
yeah, hard to compare the two places, one has +'s and other -'s. I only rode 3 trails, Friday night 2 hours trail 1&2, Saturday trail 2 in reverse and 42, maybe another 2 hours....meh
like profo said, the pavillion, pond and closeness to everything was a plus for sure. i would guess doing winrock/coal creek there might be slight highway driving to get to other trails or back to the camp faster?
i wish i could have done some more difficult trails but we wanted to "landcruise" and cover more trails. Coal creek is much better for this.
We did catch two huge crappies and some nice bass!
like profo said, the pavillion, pond and closeness to everything was a plus for sure. i would guess doing winrock/coal creek there might be slight highway driving to get to other trails or back to the camp faster?
i wish i could have done some more difficult trails but we wanted to "landcruise" and cover more trails. Coal creek is much better for this.
We did catch two huge crappies and some nice bass!
I will say this (I broke a CV and a tie rod on my GX). I loved GMP.
I think it could easily be the best GSMTR and compares to Tellico. Think back on those trails and then examine the complaints. They don't line up. GMP gives people with mild rigs a chance to learn and bring families, etc and do other things than just trails.
If each group had a competent spotter, organized groups, and a "new driver/easy mode" group GMP would be absolutely wonderful.
I myself spotted some of the 100 crew over some of the trails and while they thought they were hard, once they were through some of the obstacles the opinion changed. There is a level of experience that makes any trail hard or easy.
To simply dismiss and abandon a resource like GMP is a mistake. We should be grooming the owners to make more mild trails, to improve on the trails only, because the rest of the place is perfect.
If it helps, I will step up and offer to be a spotter like we used to have at Tellico for GSMTR. That was all I saw missing from GSMTR at GMP.
I think it could easily be the best GSMTR and compares to Tellico. Think back on those trails and then examine the complaints. They don't line up. GMP gives people with mild rigs a chance to learn and bring families, etc and do other things than just trails.
If each group had a competent spotter, organized groups, and a "new driver/easy mode" group GMP would be absolutely wonderful.
I myself spotted some of the 100 crew over some of the trails and while they thought they were hard, once they were through some of the obstacles the opinion changed. There is a level of experience that makes any trail hard or easy.
To simply dismiss and abandon a resource like GMP is a mistake. We should be grooming the owners to make more mild trails, to improve on the trails only, because the rest of the place is perfect.
If it helps, I will step up and offer to be a spotter like we used to have at Tellico for GSMTR. That was all I saw missing from GSMTR at GMP.
I welcome the continued discussion.
I've been to GSMTR every year at GMP, but unfortunately missed all of the ones at Tellico. Having wheeled several other places (Beasley, Caney Fork, Durhamtown and lots of private land) I haven't yet found anything that compares to GMP for an event like GSMTR. That being said, GSMTR is one of our annual family vacations. I think the Mrs. and the kids look forward to it just as much as I do. The proximity of the trails to the other amenities is the biggest plus, for us at least. We can all load up, go wheel and aren't to far from camp to run a kid back, go grab food/drinks, get tools, make a bathroom run if someone doesn't want to squat, etc etc etc.
Hell, when Dan broke, I was back to camp, loaded with drinks/snacks and back on the trail serving beverages in about 20-30 minutes. Try that at some other locations. I agree with heavy involvement and communication with the owners of GMP. I even heard they are letting clubs cut trails. With enough input/manpower we could easily groom that place to be the stuff of envy. I'd definitely be up for a couple trips a year to help with trails, scout new ones, etc.
Not that my vote counts at all, but I can sy that there are four people riding in my 80 that would love to see GSMTR remain at GMP for years to come.
Hell, when Dan broke, I was back to camp, loaded with drinks/snacks and back on the trail serving beverages in about 20-30 minutes. Try that at some other locations. I agree with heavy involvement and communication with the owners of GMP. I even heard they are letting clubs cut trails. With enough input/manpower we could easily groom that place to be the stuff of envy. I'd definitely be up for a couple trips a year to help with trails, scout new ones, etc.
Not that my vote counts at all, but I can sy that there are four people riding in my 80 that would love to see GSMTR remain at GMP for years to come.
