Front and rear bumpers

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Dirtgypsy said:
this is what I want:

a hybrid tube and plate style

front:

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Rear: but with trailer hitch
lcagosto2007_06.jpg


build these and I will be down tommorrow to pick them up :D

Clint
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for me this rear bumper has all the bells and whistles I want. I don't care if it is plate or tube as long as it is rock ready. Check out the 4plus rear bumper on MAF. My local welder said to do a "one off" with two swing outs and reciever would cost $2k-2.5k .
 
For under the one-off price mentioned, 4x4Labs rear is the ticket for high-end. Laser cut, overbuilt, 2 swingouts, great curves, close fit, integrated receiver, various options for fender protection, long-time TLCA supporter. Pick whichever swing-out accessories you can think up- he'll have it or make it, and they are modular. He even has an integrated rear winch option *still* retaining a tow hitch. Nothing I've seen in production comes close to the quality, 4+ or slee included. If you wheel, you will want something guarding your fenders (if you care about them, heh).

Didn't want to step on Justin's toes, but it sounded like he was going more budget-balanced of a build. Can't wait to see what he comes up with!
 
HIGH MOUNTED!

Increase approach and departure angle as much as possible. The stock bumpers, and 99% of the aftermarket bumpers are way too low. They function very well for a street truck... and for most expedition-style builds but for a wheelng truck that is going to see big rocks those bumpers get it the way.

I built a VERY simple rear bumper (just a rectangular tube) that sits as high as possible... just enough room to drop the rear tailgate with about 1/4" to spare. I removied the rear X member and trimmed the rear framerails at a 45 degree angle to get them more out of the way too. Now that I see that this works well I will be building a "real" bumper with swing-out provisions. Frankly I'm concerned with the idea of adding the weight of a 36" Swamper up so high and rearward so far for wheeling (on the street no problem). It shifts the center of gravity and front/rear weight distribution too much. I may build it so that I can easily remove the swing out and move the spare inside for wheeling. Laying flat inside as far forward as possible to keep the weight over the rear axle rather than behind it. (One of my goals for rock wheeling has been to reduce weight as mich as possible and to kee the weight I do carry as low as possible)

For the front, same thing. I'm playing with designs that keep the bumper as high and tight as possible. I want the top of the bumper right up under the headlights. I want it vertically short and up high at the ends in front of the tires. I want the lowest point at or above the framerails in the center and no further forward than the framerails. I will trim out the valence/grille to be able to recess my Warn M12k as far back as possible. The winch is, and will remain, mounted to a plate that is bolted to the top of the framerails and is not conected to the bumper directly. (The "hybrid tube and plate style" pictured in this thread (Clint) is real close to what I'm talking about... Where is that from again?)

I have some pics/designs if anyone is interested.
 
woytovich said:
HIGH MOUNTED!

Increase approach and departure angle as much as possible. The stock bumpers, and 99% of the aftermarket bumpers are way too low. They function very well for a street truck... and for most expedition-style builds but for a wheelng truck that is going to see big rocks those bumpers get it the way.

I built a VERY simple rear bumper (just a rectangular tube) that sits as high as possible... just enough room to drop the rear tailgate with about 1/4" to spare. I removied the rear X member and trimmed the rear framerails at a 45 degree angle to get them more out of the way too. Now that I see that this works well I will be building a "real" bumper with swing-out provisions. Frankly I'm concerned with the idea of adding the weight of a 36" Swamper up so high and rearward so far for wheeling (on the street no problem). It shifts the center of gravity and front/rear weight distribution too much. I may build it so that I can easily remove the swing out and move the spare inside for wheeling. Laying flat inside as far forward as possible to keep the weight over the rear axle rather than behind it. (One of my goals for rock wheeling has been to reduce weight as mich as possible and to kee the weight I do carry as low as possible)

For the front, same thing. I'm playing with designs that keep the bumper as high and tight as possible. I want the top of the bumper right up under the headlights. I want it vertically short and up high at the ends in front of the tires. I want the lowest point at or above the framerails in the center and no further forward than the framerails. I will trim out the valence/grille to be able to recess my Warn M12k as far back as possible. The winch is, and will remain, mounted to a plate that is bolted to the top of the framerails and is not conected to the bumper directly. (The "hybrid tube and plate style" pictured in this thread (Clint) is real close to what I'm talking about... Where is that from again?)

I have some pics/designs if anyone is interested.
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Post them up! We're interested!
 
The first is a pic I found here on mud. It shows a very good example of minimizing the bumper in front of the tires... giving the tire maximum access approach angle to an obstacle. I do like the simplicity of the design. I might want to do a little more "design" where the bumper and the frame intersect... maybe more of a "ramp".
I have a shackle reversal on my 60 and I would look to integrate this"ramp" to the angle of the SR brackets. I like the smalller diameter tube on this vs what you normally see. I'd probably tweek the design of the "wings" that go under the headlights a little for aesthetics.

The second pic is a Photoshop of a bumper I found here on mud too. I raised it WAY up from where it was on the truck... like probalby 8" or so. Like in the first pic I would trim the sheetmetal under the headlights. I might angle the face of the bumper proper back at the bottom a bit.
front bumper good approach.webp
Front_Bumper_good hoop3.webp
 
I want to add that another goal of my front bumper will be to allow as much of the character of the FJ60 front/grill to show through... I want it to look like a 60... and not a bumper with some truck behind it.... the more I look at the truck in the first pic the more i like the bumper design... with a couple of tweeks to ease the transitions between the sections of the bumper itself as I mentioned I think it would be just what I'm looking for. I would go for the side protection too.

Anyone know who built that bumper?
 
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My v2 front bumper will be a combo of what JK Customs built for MMW and the 4+ front, with high mount like what Mark shows above, if I can work that out.

Mark- I thought Chappy built the bumper (it is his truck). If not, he would know.
 
I like the look of the bumpers built by Hanson Ent, and for more custom looking stuff - more of a Baja look - check out Toby Lavender's fab work at XXXTraction.com (not a porn site).
 
Here we go

Randy with RT Customs is dropping off his cruiser after Christmas and lets see what i can come up with. I like the idea of mounting the bumper as high as possible for a better approach angle.

I also like the idea of making a hybrid style design which should speed up the build time. less welding and grinding
 
I think a bumper should have 3 main qualities...

-Beefy Materials
-Good flow with body lines
-Simplistic

These are the bumpers on my ZJ, and while the front is not the most attractive piece ever, the rear more than makes up for it. It is mostly box tube (1/4") with some 1/8" cosmetic pieces.

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grocery.jpg
 
TURBOYOTA!!! said:
ummm a little off topic, but, where can i get a set of thoes wheels? they're sooo awesome!!! :D
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not sure on the wheels. I assume they are stock 60 spec steel wheels. I know that a lot of guys (and gals) are running 16" split rims. do a search you are bound to turn up something.

Clint
 
Esh: That thing of a bullbar isnt the prettiest thing is it? For some reason though I like it alot...:grinpimp:

-Carl
 
I think that thing could be used for whatever you damn well please. :cheers:
Me likey
-Carl
 
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