Fox Shox 2.0 post your valving and weight.

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Rwhat...I thought you already had Fox shocks?? I have the 10" IFP Performance series shocks accommodated with OME HD 2.5" springs with a 30 mm spacer up front. However, I am not armored so I sit higher than usual. I have the factory valving from Fox. Unloaded, the ride is a little stiff but it still rides pretty good. This previous weekend, I wheeled with 8 people in the cruiser with the sway bar off. It definitely rode like a caddy. Hope this helps.
 
I have the foxes, but before I got them I researched rebuilding them and also revalving. I mostly bought the shock since its user rebuildable.

Before I buy expensive stuff I have to justify it. Like being rebuildable and having a lot of info on servicing them. I like the ride of mine however I thinking about going with slee 4" springs before summer.
 
Perusing through other threads, I saw that Kmcoop7 is running 45/80 with 150psi N2 charge. His rig has minimalistic steel bumpers front and rear with sliders. Couldn't find much feedback about ride quality, other than he said he likes it soft for high speed rough road driving and he still drives the rig like a sports car on twisty mountain roads.
 
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Hey All;

Just got the front's installed from Down South Motorsports. I ended up going with the valving Niel recommended: Front 65/80, R 65/95 @ 150 psi.

I only received 1 bushing kit for each front shock and 2 are needed. So I scavenged nut's/bushings from the rear set to get the front's installed. Otherwise a direct bolt-in and an afternoon. Penetrating fluid and an impact are your friend!

Front weight is 3060 lbs with dual bats, diesel, Slee Shortbus and 9.5 XP winch on 850 coils.

Observations after 300 km's, load E tires @ 40 psi:
- Best way to describe the front ride is crisp.
- Bodyroll has decreased substantially. Now able to handle gravel corners/off-ramps at speeds with a very controlled, sportscar like feel
- Nosedive has decreased and she feels more stable braking
- washboard handling is very controlled and the jarring is less pronounced. In contrast with the rear OME's - night and day
- no 4LO, yet!

I'm no shock expert, but the front valving suits my needs - with a bias to on-road handling. I'm thinking softer valving would increase bodyroll and nosedive, better suited to lower speed off-roading. But hey, thats what airing down is for.

For the price, I'm a happy camper. I think these fill the mid-level niche and are a great value. I'll post up impressions/pics when I get the rears on. Just need some more bushings....
 
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Hey All;

Just got the front's installed from Down South Motorsports. I ended up going with the valving Niel recommended: Front 65/80, R 65/95 @ 150 psi.

I only received 1 bushing kit for each front shock and 2 are needed. So I scavenged nut's/bushings from the rear set to get the front's installed. Otherwise a direct bolt-in and an afternoon. Penetrating fluid and an impact are your friend!

Front weight is 3060 lbs with dual bats, diesel, Slee Shortbus and 9.5 XP winch on 850 coils.

Observations after 300 km's, load E tires @ 40 psi:
- Best way to describe the front ride is crisp.
- Bodyroll has decreased substantially. Now able to handle gravel corners/off-ramps at speeds with a very controlled, sportscar like feel
- Nosedive has decreased and she feels more stable braking
- washboard handling is very controlled and the jarring is less pronounced. In contrast with the rear OME's - night and day
- no 4LO, yet!

I'm no shock expert, but the front valving suits my needs - with a bias to on-road handling. I'm thinking softer valving would increase bodyroll and nosedive, better suited to lower speed off-roading. But hey, thats what airing down is for.

For the price, I'm a happy camper. I think these fill the mid-level niche and are a great value. I'll post up impressions/pics when I get the rears on. Just need some more bushings....


I'm curious to see how you like the rears when you get them installed. Do you happen to know your rear axle weight?

My front weight is currently at 3340lbs and i'm running the 2.0 remote reservoirs, BUT...i don't know what they are valved at. I got them from the guy at Fox, along with a few others, that ended up getting canned because he wasn't supposed to be selling them. So I doubt I'll ever know the exact numbers on these shocks, but I told him it was "heavy" so he supposedly valved them to suit.

I'm happy with the way the front rides, based on your description, it sounds like our shocks are setup pretty similar.

Reason I ask about the rear......is because I would like mine to have a lot more rebound dampening.
I'm certainly not a shock expert, but on the initial "bump" in the road (compression) they feel great. As the rear end is coming back up, it just seems like it overpowers the shocks.
Who knows, maybe my rears are valved about all they will go? I have a feeling that I'm past the limits of a 2.0 shock and should really be running a 2.5... :doh:
 
tim.korn.99 -

Rear end weighs 3170 lbs daily and 3500 lbs loaded up for a roadtrip with fuel, water, food & gear. I've tried hard to stay under GVW with all mods. I was running 864's (way overkill), but am swapping in some 863's with the new shocks. Rear shocks are supposed to be matched to 863 rate.

I was originally looking at the 2.5's, but couldn't justify the $$. I've seen alot of 3/4 tons running the 2's and thought I'd give them a try for half the price. I'm more concerned with reliability than racing, and am happy with the results so far. Hopefully they last!

Btw - Neil at DSMS was nice enough to send the missing bushings express, free of charge. Great customer service.

Edit: Your 80 is AWESOME! Man, I wish I could score some 36" XZL's, like this:
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Got mine two weeks ago from Neil at Downsouth Motorsports. Great fellow to deal with via email and telephone. Quick service and shipping, they were shipped the same day that we hit the GO button. Everything was exactly as described via email and telephone.

Shocks were well packed, with lots of foam peanuts. All hardware was there, bushings and washers, and 'piggyback' mounting clamps and spacers.

Ordered 10" travel remote-reservoir bolt-in solution for 2-3" lift.
fronts: pin top/pin bottom 65/80-200psi
rears: pin top/eye bottom 65/90-200psi

These have a shock body that's barely longer than the stock ones, so I can get away with bolting them in without lift springs for a few days of testing. The extended length is longer so I'll get some extra down travel with the stock springs.

My rig is fairly lightweight.
97 LX450 with 315-75-16 BFG KM/2 tires on stock rims 35-40psi. 3rd row removed. fullsize spare in stock spot. M8000 inside stock front bumper, with synth rope. Minimal weight on the nose (guessing 80 lbs with winch plate). Cruisin' Offroad slider-steps. 67k miles, original springs and shocks. Not hauling any junk around during testing.

I did my install in stages, because I wanted to feel each change, one thing at a time. Started with rear shocks on stock springs. For me, the telltale of perfectly tuned suspension is how the rear feels over the backside of large traffic calming speed bumps. One of my routes for my daily commute can go over a bunch of these at various speeds. Stock Lexus shocks with stock springs can go about 25mph before it feels like somethings gonna break :hillbilly: On a street-tuned ae86 corolla on Koni shocks, we can hit those at ~35mph with our 23" tires. Any faster and we're jumping, which is stressful on the chassis.

First, I installed the rear shocks, with the reservoirs piggybacked on the shock body with the supplied clamps and poly spacers. Not ideal, because the reservoir needs to be in the EXACT position to not hit the rear caliper or the control arms. Will look into making reservoir brackets when I've got everything together.

On my normal city commute, which includes a street with large traffic-calming speedbumps, some unpaved alleys, and a few 30mph curves, I noticed that the rear of the truck had more traction (from the increased understeer) in sweeping turns. This was confirmed by a short drive on the sea-to-sky which is bunch of 40-50mph curves when it's dry. Felt very good on the twisty highway. Felt good on gravel roads (aired down). We went and did some snow-wheeling, and I completely forgot that they were there. Kids had fun, and we had a new christmas tree to bring home.

On my commute, when going over those big speed bumps, the rear was a bit harsh when the tires hit pavement on the back side of the bumps, when compared to the stock Lexus shocks. Had to dial back my speed to 20mph over those bumps. My old shocks were definitely more plush over those bumps, and able to go faster. Rear of the truck looked about 1/2" taller. Didn't measure, but don't think I was seeing things.

Next, I installed the front shocks, again with stock springs. Reservoirs were mounted with hose clamps onto a bracket mounted to the top of the front spring perch. I used a 7" long piece of 1"x1/8" band iron, drilled a single 5/16" hole, and made a few bends to keep the bolt from pressing up against the middle of the reservoir. Hmmm, I'm gonna make some quick reservoir mounts for the rear this weekend.

Front shocks felt very similar to the stock shocks, but small bumps were more obvious. The stockers had really good small-bump sensitivity. Over those large speed bumps, I didn't notice harshness in the front like I did with the rear shocks. These felt fine! Same with potholes, especially at freeway speeds. The increased rebound damping felt GOOD. Truck was more stable on bumpy curves. Ride height also looked about 1/2" higher in the front. Vehicle felt good at highway speeds.

OME springs finally arrived at the local shop, picked them up on saturday morning and slipped them into the car. Stance looks good! Not too much stinkbug with the heavy/medium 850/860 combo. About 1" rake when measured at the ends of my rock sliders. Good thing I went with the heavy fronts.

Initial impressions are good! Front damping feels spot-on. Excellent match to the OME heavy springs.

Rears still feel a bit harsh on compression, but less than before, due to the increased spring rate. Still looking to re-valve the rears in future, after a bit more seat time. First I have to do some caster correction and make the rear reservoir mounts. Then I'll look into revalving the rears in the new year. I'd send them in to DS Motorsports for re-valving, but crossing the border is a royal PITA for shipping. Will be collecting tools and parts to do this myself.

Went snow-wheeling and had fun. Noticeably more belly clearance than before with the small lift. Now I might have room for tire chains. Won't play on the rocks til the snow clears in the spring, so have nothing to say about the offroad prowness of the Fox shox, but I expect good things. Buddies are all jealous, these shocks look good and perform good!

Bottom line, I like them. The rears could use a revalve, but I'm quite picky about that. Thumbs up to DS Motorsports, and thanks to everyone with their advise! I'm going to try the rears at 45/85 and see how they feel.

FWIW, caster with stock suspension was +2 deg. With the OME heavy front/med rear I now have -2 deg. Will need 4-6 deg of caster correction. Gonna slot the holes and weld on the 'washer mod.' Will redo a caster sweep next week. By my calculations, 5 deg over 7"bolt spacing is 5/8" total slotting. I'll likely move the holes backwards slightly (1/4") in the brackets to effectively lengthen my control arms and restore the shrunk wheelbase a bit. For now, I'm driving around with negative caster, and the truck is much more squirrely than before. Not quite dangerously so, but noticeably so. Will make time to play with the caster correction tomorrow.
 
Thanks for the write up and feed back. But 1 thing everyone keeps getting confused about is the bleeds. No one has mentioned it. You can run 40 on a single bleed. If you try and run 40 with a double bleed. You will probably roll it :).
 
OK - finally had time to get the rears installed.

I one up'ed you Brian - I only swapped out one OME and went for a tour. Got a late start and wasn't going to get them both on that night. There was 6" of pow outside when I opened the garage door, so took her for a rip. No comparison when turning (fishtailing) or braking. Solid. OME = scary.

I think the rear valving will suit the 863's when loaded (need to finish getting that aux tank installed). It's crisp when unloaded - so anyone with less weight - be sure to ask Neil at DSMS about lower valving (IMHO).

I've had 4000 km's worth of roadtrip's on the front now. I was concerned about stories of other shock brands seals leaking in winter temps. I gave them a 5 hr beating in -25 with no problems.

I'll mention the resi fit on the rear is really close to the caliper and sway bar. Clearances with the small 285's seem to be no problem, yet. 315's, plan on fabbing some brackets..... Good thing they're only 2.0's!

I'll probably look into flutter stacks for the front - down the road. I think this may be the way to go for all-round valving. Maybe Coax will chime in.....

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Rather than mounting them like that in the ass, try mounting them like this.

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Terrible pic, but its a great spot for them.
 
I try not to mount things in the ..... I'll be moving them. Thanks MJ.
 
So of I were to only do one set first should I do front or back?

I'm thinking I'll do front as I recently ditched the sway bar and could valve them a little more in the front to make up for that. Any thoughts?
 
The change in handling is more noticeable with the rears on. I installed the fronts first. With the valving as it sits (65/80), I see no need for the front sway bar. J's have the same rate as 850's?

I don't know how long these would last with 37's though. 2.5's might be a better choice long-term....
 
Depends what your doing, if its a light duty 4wd just for daily driving and weekend driving off roading 2.0s should be fine, if your doing any serious extended off road work and anything at a 'reasonable speed' and having a bit of fun i have found the 2.0s do heat up much quicker than i would like. I bought 2.5 7/8 Kings w/ IBP to replace my fox should be a bit more up to the task of an 80 series nearly weighing 3 tones.
 
I one up'ed you Brian - I only swapped out one OME and went for a tour.

Cool! More data is almost always a good thing.

I just revalved my rears to 35/90 and like it that way. Much more plush. But I'm lightly loaded in the back. No 3rd row or any junk. 35" spare in stock spot. Fronts are still 65/80 and I'll leave them alone for a while. Might go a bit softer on compression in the front in the future but I'm lazy and its absolutely fine the way it is.
 

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