For Posteritys Sake: My sweet-ass 2F before assembly - New Installed Shots

[Trapper50cal]

I was inspired by Mike (Zornff) to post some pix of my current project:

a December 1976 2F L6 (seems inocent enough but wait...)

1. Decked, Bored, Honed and media blasted block (some rust, it sat a while)
2. Completely rebuilt Head, Decked, valveguides, new seals, honed, Chris Schummer Performance Valve Springs for RV cams (MAF262 btw) valves ground.
3. All new .30 over pistons and new connecting rods
4. Offy 4bbl dualport from PV (thanks man!)
5. resurfaced and rebuilt rocker assembly
6. New waterpump/clutchfan/fan (thanks coolcruisers of Tey Haus)
7. New Oil pump
8. All new bearings (mains, connecting rods, cam)
9. New lifters
10. Edelbrock Performer 500 w/ manual choke (offroad needles, etc.)
11. 1" Phenolic Spiral bore carb spacer (give room to the vacuum port below the manual choke and help air fuel mixture through dualport)
12. MAF 6into1 Header w/ Teflon coating and 2nd Gen. Copper Header wrap
13. All rebuilt parts (external) media blasted then painted w/ hi temp ceramic or hi-temp ceramic clearcoat (head is raw iron with clear, looks fantastic)
14. Indexed NGK plugs
15. Cap and Rotor and new oil filler cap (Thanks Spectre Offroad)
16. ...and the cherry on top, the K&N Filter 7" diameter 2.25" vert
17. Oh yeah..., turned and balanced Crank (P.S. Thanks to Bret of Mountain Automotive Machining for all the sweet work)

Should fit with about an inch to spare.
Ahhhhh....behold....



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I will post stuff as it gets done, wish I could dyno this motor to see how far past stock it will go. Hoping for 230-240hp, stock was listed at 165hp but I don't know specifically about the 1976 2F. Where there is a will, there is a way!

 

[Trapper50cal]

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Oh yeah, and new timing gears too

 

[osagecruiser]

that is beautiful....nice work!...keep us posted...this is the kinda stuff that inspires me to get busy on my piggy..

osagecruiser

 

[miletwo]

o... my... gawd! That thing gives me a semi.

Nice work.

 

[CRZYJKE]

I'll take it! (Wait, is it for sale?) ha ha

 

[nuclearlemon]

that's gonna look really sweet under the hood of this bad boy

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

sweet.. If we can talk you into it, post up pics and complete description of putting it all together.. Oddly, never taken apart or put back together an engine beyond the head off and replacing bearings here and there...

 

[tucker74]

Better get a bigger gas tank

Tucker

 

[zornff]

that's gonna look really sweet under the hood of this bad boy

LOL Ige.

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YOU SUCK ! Just kidding. That is SWEEEET ! Pm me with the info on the machinist's contact info as mines getting pulled next week. That engine would be bad a$$ propane injected. Mike

 

[PabloCruise]

Oh yeah, and new timing gears too

It looks great.

Can't wait to hear how it moves your Pig around.

Did you get the 2 piece gears from Toyota? Or 1 piece?

 

[cruiserloser123]

That is SWEET!!! What a beut... if on the aisin carb

WHat did the work run you?

Thanks for the inspiration!!!

 

[Trapper50cal]

answers

First, Nuke, that pig is sweet! man, a lil bondo and that thing is ready to rock, how much to take it off your hands?

Diesel, I have finally grown up enough to realize that it would be more expensive to build it incorrectly, drop it, break it, pull it, fix it, drop it again (repeat) then to have a professional who has built tens of 2F's do the work correctly once. Now that I'm about 3k into it, I don't trust myself to build it even though the academic knowledge is mostly there and I can read a manual, the practical knowledge is lacking, just can't risk fxxxing it up. So I doubt I will be able to provide build pictures of "in process" I did some cam swaps and some intake work in high school but this is above my skill set.

Tuck, Yeah, I'm guessing its going to be thirsty, the real trick is going to be setting the secondaries, the carb isn't that big (Edelbrocks smallest 4bbl) so if I keep it to primaries most the time I should be ok but the main issue with this carb is that it takes a lot of vacuum to run correctly so setting those secondaries will be crucial. The other thing to keep in mind is that dualport offy, since it is two planes, each is half as large as a normal plane and could constrict fuel/air flow, so I may actually want to jet everything down and soften the springs and have the secondaries actually open up sooner, depends on how much of an improvement that spiral bore spacer makes on the primary plane yield. at any rate, the raised compression and displacement is going to desire more go juice.

Pablo, I believe the gears are one piece, where would they separate for two piece? There is a large cog for the cam and a small cog on the front of the crankshaft. Wouldn't it be a bad idea to have a two piece timing cog? seems like it needs to be set for good. (like pressed distributor/cam gear vs milled)

cruise123, the machine work including new parts (pistons, connecting rods, all bearings, lifters, oil pump, rings, valve guides) the head job, the block job, the rocker train, the media blasting, the whole kit and kaboodle minus cam was $1850.00.


I am hoping that the following thins will cross over:
(1976motor:new / 1976 FJ55 w/ 69 F in it now)

Starter
Distributor (is a 76 that was working in a single F)
Allternator
motor mounts
4spd flywheel

but we will see, once we start dropping it.

Thanks for the kudos gentlemen, I knew you all would understand my excitement. Takes a Pig-head to know one.

 

[nuclearlemon]

First, Nuke, that pig is sweet! man, a lil bondo and that thing is ready to rock, how much to take it off your hands?
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as rare as they are, i'm thinking like $15,000. i've seen em going for about $25,000 on ebay

not my rig...shamelessly pilfered photo, just cause it's so cool.

 

[Trapper50cal]

as rare as they are, i'm thinking like $15,000. i've seen em going for about $25,000 on ebay

not my rig...shamelessly pilfered photo, just cause it's so cool.

Man! I'll cut a check for 17k, should cover shipping (in buckets)

 

[RHINO]

trapper all that other work and no mention of any head or port work?? not even gasket matching? what the heck man??

 

[Trapper50cal]

uhhh

trapper all that other work and no mention of any head or port work?? not even gasket matching? what the heck man??

Uh, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean extrusion honing? I'm not sure what gasket matching is. The head was extensively rebuilt as you can see but the main focus was valve guides, valves, rocker assembly and new performance valve springs from Chris Schumann in Washington (a little stiffer to deal with the larger cam) This isn't for Top Fuel Eliminator class or anything and it still is the heaviest L6 I know of, not going to be running quarters in my pig (that would be cool though, a pig doing a burnout at the christmas tree, LOLZ). Oh, and Bret Wilson is the man with the plan who did all the machining (Mountain Automotive Machining of Durango, CO)

 

[Trapper50cal]

btw

Oh and btw, something I think is super cool...as this is a December 1976 2F, It will be re-assembled and installed on its 30th anniversary! Very good kharma!

 

[2badfjs]

as rare as they are, i'm thinking like $15,000. i've seen em going for about $25,000 on ebay

not my rig...shamelessly pilfered photo, just cause it's so cool.

OR FROM YOU KNOW WHO!!!!

 

[Trapper50cal]

A Sad Day

Folks,

It has come to my attention that on New Years Day, we lost Bret Wilson.
He was the man that did my machine work and the man whose number
I presented here in this forum as THE man in SW Colorado to trust for
machine work. He was killed yesterday in a snowmobiling accident.

So please, to help the family cope in this difficult time, please don't
call asking about machine work you need as it is no longer an option.

I just don't want them to have to field so many calls.
Thank You.

(Moment of silence)

 

[Gumby]

Out of curiosity.

I get a lot of questions about how much it would cost to do a quality rebuild on a 2f.

My typical answer is the machine work is a real killer and the parts ain't cheap, but I really have no dollar figure for something like what you have done.

My guess is $1500 to $2000. is that in the ball park?