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Ok I've read the threads on roll over and I know the inclinometer on my 1986 BJ74 isn't really the be-all end-all for knowing whats what, but I will just say that I was crapping myself and the needle only ever got to 15. I can't believe people actually push these things over to 25 or 30.
 
I think they are virtually useless as the tipping point depends on tyre inflation and the type of soil as well. Its usually a dip in the track that pushes them pass the tipping point.
I think they put them on there for the Japanese at their offroad parks. A lot of countries never got them.
 
The limit should be at which point your beer starts to spill. :)
 
The limit should be at which point your beer starts to spill. :)


Like 1978hj45 I have been using the beer gauge for quite some time, but have come to the conclusion that there not a very reliable indicator of the true rollover point (kind of like the factory inclinometer). What I've noticed is that depending on the volume of beer in the container there can be a large variation in spill/rollover angle. Now, If someone could design a constant volume beer that would totally fix the problem but I aint gonna hold my breath.....:beer:
 
I suggest a clear container that allows the off-roading enthusiast to have full-time level checking capabilities, which would provide handy, inexpensive, and reliable inclinometer functions. A container with a sealing lid that permits easy ingestion would be ideal.
 
I think they are virtually useless as the tipping point depends on tyre inflation and the type of soil as well. Its usually a dip in the track that pushes them pass the tipping point.
I think they put them on there for the Japanese at their offroad parks. A lot of countries never got them.

I also think they are useless as well.

My Colombian spec cruiser has one. Some of the 1980's US spec Toyotas even had them like the 4WD Tercel.
 
The beer idea is a good one. Having a pony keg in the back seat would serve to keep fluid levels constant. The problem of course is that equilibrium tends to augment under these conditions.

How about relative pressure of your face on the drivers side window as a metric?
 
I suggest a clear container that allows the off-roading enthusiast to have full-time level checking capabilities, which would provide handy, inexpensive, and reliable inclinometer functions. A container with a sealing lid that permits easy ingestion would be ideal.
Wow! So I've been doing right for once? It was only $7 and came filled with beer! And to think my wife said my drinking wouldn't solve my problems.

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I also think they are useless as well.

My Colombian spec cruiser has one. Some of the 1980's US spec Toyotas even had them like the 4WD Tercel.

In the 1980s they were on almost anything coming out of Japan. Mitsubishi and Nissan were both big on them. You can even buy some really ugly cheap s*** aftermarket ones on ebay.
 
I remember quite time ago we are in a nice trail down here .. ( Santa Isabel ) there is was this very slippery hill that ends like a V notch at the top .. on front was another friend with a lifted Patrol GU he got pass that spot with a nice flex .. and this buddy ( was riding with me in Tencha ) said .. we can do that .. !

Turns out we can't and at the V notch Tencha slide on it's side ..

conclusion it's tipping point vary on your roll center / instant center ..
 
My wife's 87 4Runner had one. Sold the truck for $500 :bang: and gave the inclinometer to a buddy for his immaculate 60, which he rolled and totaled. Irony?
 
As a passenger when I get the stupid urge to keep the truck upright by pushing on the ground out my window. That's my tipping point.
 
As a passenger when I get the stupid urge to keep the truck upright by pushing on the ground out my window. That's my tipping point.

Haha, I've done that before a couple times (as driver). One of the dumbest things a person can do in that situation, but it is instinctual somehow.
 
Ok I've read the threads on roll over and I know the inclinometer on my 1986 BJ74 isn't really the be-all end-all for knowing whats what, but I will just say that I was crapping myself and the needle only ever got to 15. I can't believe people actually push these things over to 25 or 30.
Mine's been to 36 degrees. And yes, I was puckered up...
 
Went on an a Land Rover experience course in Scotland once with a few other colleagues. We were driving Defender 110s. They had a horizontal section set up around 40 degrees but you gently eased into it from both ends. We drove it both ways. Not sure which way was worse but it was way beyond anything I would have done on my own.
 
An inclinometer is super cool, but in the end it's you knowing and paying attention to your vehicle that is important.

I am a big fan of beer in most situations except for when I know I'm getting into a situation where I have to pay attention to rolling. It's a bad look, guys.
 
Hello,

I remember reading that, off the record, a 70 Series can withstand 44 degrees of lateral inclination.

However, I have never exceeded 30 degrees. Many moons ago, I got close to it but it was too scary, even with an instructor telling me, "do not fight the inclination, do not overthink it and keep going."





Juan
 
Ok I've read the threads on roll over and I know the inclinometer on my 1986 BJ74 isn't really the be-all end-all for knowing whats what, but I will just say that I was crapping myself and the needle only ever got to 15. I can't believe people actually push these things over to 25 or 30.

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