Erskine Off-road Cullowhee Trip (January 19-21st)

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Here is the long awaited thread. :)

Many of you know that I work at Erskine College in Due West, SC. We have a January/Winter term where students take one class the entire month of January. Many students really enjoy this because it gives them a chance to get back in the hang of school and you get to see everyone without the full load of classes hanging over you.
We also have mini sessions in which current students, staff, or faculty teach others a skill or hobby. I decided that I would do an "Off-roading" trip that would include camping. We started with approx 7-8 guys who were willing to drive. By the time we had our organizational meeting we had 6 drivers: (2 TJs, 2 Nissan 4x4 trucks, a Tacoma quad cab (Prerunner), and my f62).
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With the 6 drivers we also had 14 people who were passengers. So all total we had 20 people! (This was one of my first learning experiences about this trip) I would find out the next day that the Tacoma was a 2wd Perunner and not 4wd. However, we needed the space for everyone so I told him he would be OK. (Which to be honest he would have been on some trails.)

I had been working almost every night until 11pm or even 1 am on the 62 so that I could get everything done before we (Erskine Off-road) left on this trip.
For those of you who do not know I was upgrading to 4.88’s, 4runner brakes, and rebuilding front and rear axles completely (bearings, seals, the works!). I finally got everything buttoned together after hours of work. (I work very, very slowly.) When attempting to bleed the brakes I had 0, none, nada pedal! I was very worried at this point b/c I had already turned in my stock calipers for the core charge refund on the reman '92 4runner calipers. So what was I to do???? None other than use the newly picked up parts cruiser! :) By the time I had everything else finished but the brakes it was after 2pm. (We were to leave by 3:30 and be over to meet around 3.) I jacked up the parts cruiser, (Which is somehow stuffed into my single car enclosed garage.) pulled the wheels, got the calipers off, cleaned them, and swapped them with the 4runner calipers, and bleed them all in 45 min! Yes I was haulin’ b/c I still have not purchased my air tools. I then took it for a test run and put some gas in her. She did well, I could notice the 4.88’s but I would like to get all of my other bugs worked out b/f I make a final decision on them.

Thank goodness for my wife and my cousin Jason who helped pack and clean out the 62 from a months worth of work. (I still needed to shower, pack and change.) My wonderful wife had packed most all of my clothes for me and also helped organize and pack up the food. Which if you have never packed for 20 people in the wilderness is a lot of food!!! By the time Jason, Lori (my wife), and I got everything together enough to get Jason and I over to Moffatt (Erskine’s dining hall) to leave it was after 4:30. Yes, the guy who planned everything and said, “Do not be late or you will get left!” was extremely late! :rolleyes: I also had not eaten lunch (working on the 62) so Kendall went in and made me a sandwich. Now we were set!
 
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umm... . . . . . . hasn't that date allready passed?
 
Just for you Troll!!! :) I am not finished but I will post up what I have......

We caravanned up from Due West (we made it 5 miles down the road and 2 of us had wobbly rims/tires) through Anderson and up to Clemson. From there we headed up and over to Seneca and Walhalla. We then headed up 28 to 107 which we followed for 40 something miles to East Laport, NC.
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Here I am stupervising!
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After awhile I had to show them how it was done. :)
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A few students wondering why in the world did they sign up for this!!!
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One of our guys (Jamey) was meeting us at the BP station/Park since he was in Rock Hill for J-term. He had enough time to kill since our group was so late so he was able to pick us up a few things at Wal-Mart in Hendersonville, NC. It started getting late so our group stopped and ate at Burger King in Walhalla. (Be a little wary of the men’s bathroom!)
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We were able to make it to the BP station to meet Jamey around 9:30/9:45 just before they closed.
We then headed down Caney Fork and up to the lower campsite trail. We got there and it was getting cold and dark. You guessed it there was already someone at that spot. We talked it over among ourselves and decided to go up to another camp site. (It was a help that we could tell they were drinking and one of the guys was wearing shorts! Yeah not a good sign, especially considering we had 10+ girls with us.)
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The 62 getting a little 3 wheel action!
So we headed out way up to one of the balds. Which should only take us 30min to an hour. (Note to self, you need 4wd to go up this trail!!!) We made it up a little ways and then I had to tow Daniel (Tacoma Prerunner) the rest of the way. Toby, Daniels Prerunner getting a little 3 wheel action! Its higher than the pic shows!
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Did I mention it was getting cold? After ½ way up the trail we hit some ice which makes it tough for me to get up as well. (By this point I am thanking myself for the rear Lock-Right and wishing I had a front with longs too :) ). It did not help the fact that my towing him was causing my 62 to run warmer than I would like. Thank goodness it was cold and I could run my heater full blast. (Repair needed #1)
After stopping and letting the cruiser cool down, switching drivers in the Tacoma (Daniel was a little nervous)

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, and some much needed prayer, we were on our way up the rest of the tail. After getting up to the top bald we quickly figured out that we needed a fire and to assemble camp as quickly as possible! (Wind was gusting around 30mph and we were very, very cold!) We were able to get a fire started and assemble somewhat of a wind block with our vehicles. Thank goodness for Jennings bringing a propane heater as well, we had that going on full blast to try and make everything bearable. We all headed to bed around 3 am and tried our best to sleep. Even inside the tents it was quite cold.
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Not much time for pictures becasue we were all freezing!!!
 
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10+ girls in Cullowhee?

okay, they are all invited for Feb! :)
 
We were up around 9 am
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and tried our best to get breakfast going after figuring out that I forgot to buy syrup for the pancakes and the griddle we were going to use with the power inverter used way to much power to use it. :mad: That wasn’t fun figuring out on top of a mountain! So we made the breakfast for Sunday morning instead. Grits, cheese, bacon, OJ, and Milk!
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We also had coffee and hot coco.
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The coffee really woke some of us up!!
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Man was I happy when we got all that stuff ready to eat! After we all ate we saw who wanted to go out wheeling. (Daniel and Jason Roach decided they didn’t want to drive so they stayed behind and we had 4 vehicles go out.) In the group we had 2 TJ’s, a Nissan 4x4 and my fj62. Some of the people who stayed behind decided to take a hike while we drove around. They seemed to have a great time as well!
 
Is it worth the wait????
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We finally figured a way to get the bacon cooking! (I love this picture!)
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On our 1st outing of the day I decided to try and find the higher bald that UC had camped on when I went with them last year.
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We were able to find that and also a few other trails. I tried to attempt the hard way up onto the high bald but with no avail.
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It has been washed out rather bad and even with my locker there was no way I was going to get up. You might be able to conquer it with a front locker and more aggressive tires (swampers or even newer MT’s). I went up the easier way with the cut back.
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I then headed to go down the hard part that I could not make it up. At that point I had two girls in my car who wanted to get out. The other two said, “Matt I don’t want to get out I want to stay, this is fun!”
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So I was able to go down the hard way, which was fun. There is a video floating around now. They are editing it and it should be done in a few weeks. (These pics dont do this obstical justice, I am hoping the video does!)
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That hard entry to the higher bald is where JP tanked his rear pinion :)
 
I also managed to crunch my door in the process of going down another really tight trail I was “scouting” for everyone else. Trying to back out instead of paying attention, maybe getting out of the car and looking for a place to turn around somehow passed my mind. :rolleyes: The rear locker didn’t help as it made my rear slide around and I crunched into a tree!
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Then I asked for help :) I started to pull forward after they told me I could turn around up a little bit and dumb me had it in reverse still……CRUNCH!
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There went my driver side mirror.
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I then pulled forward and asked about something up ahead. We got out and walked 50-100 yards and there was the Blue Ridge Parkway.
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We took a few pictures there and wished we could just drive up from there, but knew that was not an option. We then got the group turned around and headed back towards camp. You could see both balds from where we were @ 5600 ft!
 
After getting back to camp we met up with the other group who had been hiking. Had our bag lunches and rested a little while. We then figured that we did not have enough wood to burn a large fire the rest of the night. So we took the trust 62 to get wood.
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(All 3 trucks were loaded with stuff at the time.) We headed down the hill and straight and there was another rarely used campsite with a good bit of fallen trees and limbs around. Good thing we brought a chain saw!
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After working on that awhile we had the cruiser loaded down with wood.
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(Backseat floorboard and seat as well as the roof!) One of the logs took 2 of us to get p there. It was a good 12” across.
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About the time I got back with the wood we had some visitors on ATV’s it was a good sized group of them.
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They seemed to be having a good time. After they came through we had a group of J**ps come through One guy had a blue cj7? That was cool, my friend with a TJ was saying that they were full width dana 44 and a ford 9”. We referred to him as BIG BLUE the rest of the trip. He apparently had a twin stick dana 300 TC as he put it in fwd only while we were watching and he had the tires barely moving, some deep gears for sure. BB seemed to be a crazy man too as he turned a few donuts with the TSL SX’s while we watched.
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Not too long after BIG BLUE and his posse left we had a visit from a dirt bike rider riding by himself. He seemed a little lost so we compared maps and he was on his way. His map came from the hiking shop and had all kinds of trails and stuff on it, but it was more confusing that the Rover guys maps we had.
 
After we rested some we asked who wanted to go wheeling next since not everyone was able to go. After figuring that out and making sure a guy stayed back with the girls at the camp site we were off! We were about ½ way to the other campsite and Davey (the guy who was at camp) came across the radio. He said the guy on the motorcycle came back through and that there was a rolled over Montero Sport on the other side of the mountain. At the same time the Land Rover club came through with 4 rigs.
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The 3rd guy was trying to get by me and pulled right into a hole and could not get out.
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Being the nice Cruiser guy that I am and not wanting to waste any opportunity I pulled him out. (With a few pictures taken in the process!) :) After we got them past us we talked with the motorcycle guy and Davey and decided to come back up and around to find the Montero Sport. I tried to hurry down the mountain so we could help the guy out. The Jeep guys took their sweet time, saying they were not going to tear up their rigs by going down so fast. (I always give them crap about having to worry about breaking stuff, etc.)
Since I was ahead of the other guys we stopped at the lower campsite and took a few pictures in "The stump chair."
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We had another slight delay when my rear passenger spring pack had shifted (something I didn’t have time to fix) it was slightly rubbing the tire. We made it down to the BP station to get syrup for pancakes the next morning. We were trying to decide which trail to head up and I got a call from Alex, a girl up at the campsite. She said some locals had come by and said there would be sleet and snow up there after midnight. After thinking it over we decided to change campsites.
 
This is all I have for now.......

I will try to get the last ngiht and last day typed up to post soon.....more waiting :)
 
Great pics and narrative Matt! Can't wait to get up there soon.
 
Almost like being there! Great writeup and pics Matt.

4 weekends away!!!
 
great write-up.

Two things that i noticed, one, good thing no one caught you driving on that trail to the parkway. Once you get to within 100 yards of the parkway, they will literally hit you with a felony for driving off the road at the parkway. Ask me how i know. They will even write you a HUGE ticket for picking flowers or any vegetation from the parkway.

Second, the group of ATV's surprises me. You are not allowed to drive a non licensed vehicle on those trails. That is why when i rode up there while i was in school, i had a dual sport motorcycle that was tagged and titled. That's another big ticket you can get.

Oh, one other thing. My second time up those trails ever, my roommate had a montero, and he rolled it off the side of the mountain. Those montero's have bad luck up there.
 
great write-up.

Two things that i noticed, one, good thing no one caught you driving on that trail to the parkway. Once you get to within 100 yards of the parkway, they will literally hit you with a felony for driving off the road at the parkway. Ask me how i know. They will even write you a HUGE ticket for picking flowers or any vegetation from the parkway.

Second, the group of ATV's surprises me. You are not allowed to drive a non licensed vehicle on those trails. That is why when i rode up there while i was in school, i had a dual sport motorcycle that was tagged and titled. That's another big ticket you can get.

Oh, one other thing. My second time up those trails ever, my roommate had a montero, and he rolled it off the side of the mountain. Those montero's have bad luck up there.

Thanks for the compliment.....I tired to make it a worthwhile effort.

Who said I was driving on the trail to the parkway. :) :rolleyes: :)

I had heard that about atv's as well, but the map that the dual sport motorcycle guy had something about atv or something trails on it as well as hiking trails????
 
Matt great write up brother! So a few questions for you. What do you notice the most with the 4.88's? Are you still running the 33's? And have you decided to keep the 4.88's?
 
man well done matt!!! very nice write up

seeing those pics is killing me, knowing that it will be atleast a year before I can get back up there :frown:

Dude, I'll trade you the places you'll get to check out in the next 9 months for Cullowhee access for the same term... :grinpimp:
 

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