EBAY SUCKS, here's why not to sell a car on it

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I had a car listed for 7 days. So I waited the length of time, had a buyer that met the price. I turned away local people who had cash in hand to honor my auction. Then, the buyer flakes out, won't answer messages, so I have to wait 8 more days to get ebay to refund the $125 listing fee, and to top it off, this a****** doesn't even get negative feedback. He's still buying with 100% positive feedback. I contact ebay again and they make it out to be my fault for not having buyer requirements. Well, damn it says 100% positive feedback obviously he's a good ebayer...... not the case. They gave him a "strike" meaning it's hidden, not shown to the public, but they noted it???? wtf? Ebay is crap, I paid a $125 for this headache. NEVER AGAIN. Here is the conversation:



Is this with regard to the AUDI?


ME: yes and the non paying bidder that never wrote me back
that caused me a lot of grief that may prevent me from ever using ebay as a seller again

Robert J.
I checked and the dispute has been closed with the FVF credited in your account and with a strike given to the buyer.

ME:
how does he have 100% positive feedback??
when he doesn't even complete transactions?
where does it say on his feedback he has a strike? or is that something ebay keeps hidden?
so I can buy something and not pay for it and have nothing happen?

Robert J.
Strike is different from a feedback. You can't see a strike in a members account. If the member has a strike, he can't bid in listings that have a buyer requirement (to block bidders with unpaid item strikes) Also, a strike can cause account suspension.

ME:
yes, but why can't I leave him negative feedback?

Robert J.
Since last year, sellers are no longer allowed to leave a negative feedback to the buyers because you can put an unpaid item strike in his account if you will file a dispute.

ME:
well, if that's all that happens then I just won't sell on ebay again
I was very unsatisfied with this whole experience
and I've been with ebay since 2003 I believe

So basically I wasted my time for the auction length when I had potential buyers outside of ebay, but I did the right thing and let the ad run and kept it in ebay, and then the guy doesn't pay, wastes another 8 days of transaction time, only for him to have 100% positive feedback overall
it's a bad system

Robert J.
I checked your listing and you have not set a buyer requirement.

ME:
I don't care about my listing before, I'm saying the guy needs something showing he's not a good ebayer, I guarantee nobody even knows about buyer requirement

Robert J.
I checked his account and there is a restriction for an unpaid item.


ME
so he has multiple strikes?
and still wonders around ebay showing a face of 100% positive feedback

Robert J.
Strike does not affect the feedback of the member.

ME:
well, the system sucks and I'll be sure to tell everyone I know how it works, and I doubt they will be selling a car on ebay again.



That's all I could take because he started saying some stuff about how I should have set requirments for buyers again.......
 
They changed the feedback rules last year to prevent feedback retaliation or blackmail. Lots of buyers getting beat up by sellers after the sale had been made and using the threat of negative feedback. So now sellers can either leave a positive or request their money back if the buyer doesn't pay. If the buyer makes a consistent habit of not paying, they're out. Makes sense to me and has been working well.
 
They changed the feedback rules last year to prevent feedback retaliation or blackmail. Lots of buyers getting beat up by sellers after the sale had been made and using the threat of negative feedback. So now sellers can either leave a positive or request their money back if the buyer doesn't pay. If the buyer makes a consistent habit of not paying, they're out. Makes sense to me and has been working well.

i think it makes sense as well.
 
Anymore, e-bay is no better than Amazon.
 
Ebay is in business to make money,not settle disputes.I agree with you.Use craigs list. Mike
 
e-bay blows. I hadn't bought anything on it for a couple of years. Then bought a pair of boots recently. After all the waitin' and auction hoopla, boots show up and they're the wrong size (different than listed by 3.5 sizes). :rolleyes: Before I can leave negative feedback, the seller disappears from e-bay. I got my money back, but what a waste of 3 weeks until the whole deal was over. I'll deal on CL before e-bay any day. Prices really aren't that good on there anymore either, at least not enough to put up with the bs.
 
If it's any consolation to you, I have been on the other side of this coin a few times.

Back when I still used e-bay I did score some really good deals on things.. twice in particular the seller thought the deal was 'too good' and refused to honor my winning bid.

e-bay sucks.
 
Ebay is a pain in the a**. The prohibition of allowing sellers to leave negative feedback is a joke. How is a seller to know if a buyer is any good? A heck of a lot of good a "strike" does when you can't even see it. I've been screwed by a buyer before and when that happens then Ebay was 100% behind the buyer!?!? The buyer was overseas and was bitching that his item didn't arrive in less that a week (and he wanted cheap shipping)?!? Ebay gave him his money back, I was out of the item and the money (no doubt the item arrived in two weeks or so which is what is expected overseas)! Now overseas buyers bitch that shipping is too much because I won't ship anywhere without tracking and insurance paid for by the buyer of course.
 
i have never sold anything on ebay...
 
CL is no better. Bought a "new" hard drive for a backup last weekend. I should have been wary when he kept saying how new it was and had NEVER been installed. Go to the guy's house, pay, go home, install it - lo and behold there's Vista files on it and the drive is jacked up, can't be formatted. Call the guy and get the run around, "I had no idea, are you sure?". Drive back out, get my money back. So, an hour in the car, gas, time, etc.

I'm sticking to flea markets and garage sales. At least there it's a mutual agreement that you'll pay a quarter for already broken s***.
 
Ebay fxxxin rules in my opinion.
For selling cars not so much.
I just got a brand new $212.00 15 piece set Snap On impact socket set for $105.55

I agree though it can be s***ty at times dealing with fxxxheads.
 
the reason I like CL is it's local, you can see what you're getting for the most part plus waving cash in front of someone is much harder to resist then placing bids.
 

Fxxx that. Do you think that I want to get raped like what happens to a lot of people on CL? They come to look at the "item" and once they see how good looking you are they rape you. It really is a curse being this pretty.
 
Fxxx that. Do you think that I want to get raped like what happens to a lot of people on CL? They come to look at the "item" and once they see how good looking you are they rape you. It really is a curse being this pretty.

Yeah, I don't like CL all that much for that reason as well. Not the raped part but seeing the a****** you're dealing with in person.
Another Snap On story... brand new 1/2 drive torque wrench on CL. About 30 miles away. $275 wrench I talk the guy down to $90. Go to pick it up and i'm now dealing with a young kid who had a decent job at a car dealer but is now obviously on heroin or meth. I don't need to see that s***.
But hey, i'm looking for a cap for my minitruck right now on CL so I guess i'm a hypocrite.:flipoff2:
 

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