Thinking of getting a set of Braid wheels in 18” for my 15’ 570, just curious what the general consensus is on E-Rated tires for AHC equipped 200s. This will primarily be a highway vehicle/grocery getter/baby hauler. Not a fan of the 20” wheels, and lack of sidewall.
E-Rated Tires
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can you ask in a different way about what you are looking for? Tons of people run e-rated tires on their 200s.
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I see your point haha I guess I’m wondering how harsh the ride becomes when running LT tires vs the standard passenger rated tires.
Pretty sure you just asked a question for which there is no consensus on Mud.
To address your second post, I'd wager that the change from a 50 series P or XL sidewall in 20" will still ride better than an E in 18".
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What's the issue with the lack of sidewall on your 20s? Ride quality? If so, you probably won't like any LT tire and the minimum pressures that are significantly higher than your stock tires. Even if you don't run the "official" calculated RCTIP, any LT tire will need more pressure than a stock P-metric to keep the tire carcass happy.
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I suppose I just prefer the look of more sidewall vs the Range Rover look.
I’d suggest a c or d if you can find them in a size you like.
I found e rated/129 load to be quite a narrow inflation range that was comfortable, otherwise they got stiff fast.
Have d /121 load now and it’s much better, same as a P based on my memory.
I found e rated/129 load to be quite a narrow inflation range that was comfortable, otherwise they got stiff fast.
Have d /121 load now and it’s much better, same as a P based on my memory.
Your use case does not need E rated tires. Get 18” wheels you like and a set (5) of anything but E tires. You can pick up ideas about specific tires using their name in a search.
Not all LT-E tires are created the same.
- Some AT tires are known to have stiff sidewalls resulting in a harsh ride. I would avoid BFG KO2s for example as these are known to prioritize tougher sidewalls that may lead to a stiff ride. I do wonder how KO3s do in this regard.
- Some sizes require more inflation pressure to meet the required load rating. These tend to be the more narrow fitments.
Wider tires on narrow wheels create more compliance in the sidewall leading to a better ride.
- Floatation sized LTs IMO tend to have more compliant sidewalls.
I've had both 305/55R20s LT-E Falken AT3Ws and 35x12.5R20s Toyo AT3s, both have excellent ride quality with AHC.
- Some AT tires are known to have stiff sidewalls resulting in a harsh ride. I would avoid BFG KO2s for example as these are known to prioritize tougher sidewalls that may lead to a stiff ride. I do wonder how KO3s do in this regard.
- Some sizes require more inflation pressure to meet the required load rating. These tend to be the more narrow fitments.
Wider tires on narrow wheels create more compliance in the sidewall leading to a better ride.
- Floatation sized LTs IMO tend to have more compliant sidewalls.
I've had both 305/55R20s LT-E Falken AT3Ws and 35x12.5R20s Toyo AT3s, both have excellent ride quality with AHC.
FWIW, I have had BFG KO2s now in both Load C and E and cannot say there was any perceived difference in ride quality in a 32-33” tire.
You need to ask your question more clearly and with more context. How is your LX equipped and what do you use it for?
I have a new-to-me 2020 LX. It came with 21” wheels with Grandtrek tires. Those tires were quite quiet and the ride was surprisingly good for such little sidewall. My LX is stock and it is my daily driver. I will be taking it on the beach, so I will need to air down and I don’t trust the 21” wheels to air down effectively. Furthermore, I don’t like the idea of little sidewall here in the potholed Northeast.
So I threw on a set of 18” wheels that I had. These were mounted with E-rated 286/65-18 KO2 tires. These were an older set, probably 6 or 7 years old, with at least 40,000 miles on them. They were LOUD. Really, really loud in comparison to the Grandtreks. Not something that I could live with. The ride was OK, but what was totally objectionable was the noise.
I replaced them quickly with a set of 285/60-18 Michelin Defenders. I’m much happier with the Defenders. But then I won’t be modifying my LX and I won’t be doing any challenging off-roading with it.
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My LX is bone stock, and I plan to keep it that way. The new Michelin Defenders look pretty great, I may just go with a 285/55R20 and not even swap wheels. It looks like 18” wheel setups often require spacers, or tire sizes that only come in LT if you want a bigger than stock size. I appreciate everyone’s input.
The OEM 18” wheels from Land Cruisers, Tundras, and Sequoias fit perfectly. No need for spacers. I have Sequoia take-off wheels on my LX.
Spacers on the LX with OEM 18s are only really needed if you go big on the tire size (eg. 295/70r18 or 34.3" x 11.5").
I have a set of 18" LC wheels sitting in the shed waiting for my 285/50r20 Defenders to wear out. When the time comes, I'll slap some Defender 275/65r18 XL's on them and call it a day.
Seems like the same direction you're headed.
As others have said, Sequoia and Tundra wheels work perfectly, too. No spacers required.
My 2020 LX 570 on Sequoia wheels, with Defender MS/2 285/60-18
To E or not to E that is question. Whether tis ok to suffer the noisy and harsh ride. Or to take up the less offroad worthy. I drove around in my T100 for 20 years on a way over load rating tire. It was noisy it was not a comfortable ride. With last set of tires I went back to as close to stock tire load rating as possible and behold the ride quality improvement. Still tows fine still offroads fine. I will be keeping my LC on as close to stock load rated tires just for quality of ride. That is my view and I am sticking to it. Good luck with what ever you get.
Always use case dependent.. I use E, but then again I don't care that my wheels get scratched up either doing what I do....
For an around town and occasional dirt road truck... I'd go as close to stock rating as possible.. and as mild of an AT tire as possible most likely.
For an around town and occasional dirt road truck... I'd go as close to stock rating as possible.. and as mild of an AT tire as possible most likely.
E rated tires generally have 10 ply sidewalls. They are for heavier loaded vehicles, definitely more durable
offroad in rocky conditions. Land Cruiser guys tend to look for that compromise you are, wheel size from factory, looks and comfort. A 34” tire on a 18” rim has 1” more sidewall than same size tire on 20” rim. Generally that sidewall allows for a bit nicer ride and more flex offroad. Im not sure if you can get a D rated tire in 18”, it would have less sidewall plus but would flex a bit better as well.
I think you are going in the right direction dropping to 18” wheel. Don’t get P rated tire for sure, just not
enough sidewall to take the load of your truck. LT tires would be good.
Are you looking to go over size? Looking for taller tire or keeping it stock size. That definitely is part
of the discussion.
