Dissent offroad modular rear bumper.

[btbowie]

Heavily into this. Removable swing-outs sounds good too. Either way, looking forward to it.

 

[Stryder03]

Loving the look of this. The removable swing outs would make this a grand slam. Loved this design so much that I had to give his front bumper a look. Placed an order for the front yesterday. Keep up the good work!

 

[CreeperSleeper]

Okay, Ben. I know some of these have been mentioned, but this is what I would like to see in a rear bumper:

1) High clearance
2) Integrated recovery points
3) Optional built in receiver
4) Optional cut out for 7-Pin plug
5) Optional cut out for aux lighting
6) A place to attach safety chains
7) A spare tire carrier identical to yours
8) Optional Hi-Lift jack mount (possibly behind the spare tire?)
9) Options of single or duel swing outs (preferably up-gradable)
10) The need to test fit on an LX470 (I call dibs on another road trip!)

 

[Get outside]

Well, I guess I'll be receiving another paypal invoice soon! I was away from mud for a week, I come back and look what happens!

 

[Get outside]

Are you still planing on partnering with 4x4 Labs on the bumper? Should I even be asking this here?

 

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Are you still planing on partnering with 4x4 Labs on the bumper? Should I even be asking this here?

I think I will need to come up with my own thing for the swing outs to have them easily removable. I'm thinking of doing the swing arms out of formed plate with gussets on the back side similar to the wing gussets on my front bumpers. This will give a stronger, lighter more ridged swing arm than the standard tube arm. This will also allow for any auxiliary wiring to be run inside the swing arm rather than outside.
I think I have some pretty cool ideas on the recovery point but I'm not ready to go into detail on those yet.


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[hoser]

I would like swing-outs that open and close like a car door.

Maybe use these...

Amazon.com: AutoLoc BCLG Large Locking Bear Claw Door Latch Set: Automotive

 

[benc]

So the plan as of now will be theses options.
Modular 3 piece main bumper,

Built in high clearance receiver with 4 and 7 pin accommodations, proper safety chain connection.

Possible auxiliary bullet turn signals and brake lights,
Auxiliary led back up lights.

Recovery points,

Removable dual modular swing outs with several different bolt on options.
Tire holder, hi-lift, ice chest/fuel cans, ax, bike rack, camp shower box ect,
( it will be a while before all these options are available)

The swing outs will be easily opened and closed with one hand. No pop pins!

The other thing I will need to consider is the guys that want to run no swing outs will still need to be able to mount the spare underneath, I will try and leave as much room possible for this.

The rear cross member will need to be removed for this bumper! Some are a little hesitant of this but it must be done to achieve the most clearance possible.
I understand this may turn some away but this is the route I have decided to go.

Thanks again for all the feed back and I can't wait to start welding some pieces together!



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[benc]

I would like swing-outs that open and close like a car door.

Maybe use these...

Amazon.com: AutoLoc BCLG Large Locking Bear Claw Door Latch Set: Automotive

Just got them today[emoji4]


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[arcteryx]

So the plan as of now will be theses options.
Modular 3 piece main bumper,

Built in high clearance receiver with 4 and 7 pin accommodations, proper safety chain connection.

Possible auxiliary bullet turn signals and brake lights,
Auxiliary led back up lights.

Recovery points,

Removable dual modular swing outs with several different bolt on options.
Tire holder, hi-lift, ice chest/fuel cans, ax, bike rack, camp shower box ect,
( it will be a while before all these options are available)

The swing outs will be easily opened and closed with one hand. No pop pins!

The other thing I will need to consider is the guys that want to run no swing outs will still need to be able to mount the spare underneath, I will try and leave as much room possible for this.

The rear cross member will need to be removed for this bumper! Some are a little hesitant of this but it must be done to achieve the most clearance possible.
I understand this may turn some away but this is the route I have decided to go.

Thanks again for all the feed back and I can't wait to start welding some pieces together!



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so..... will the above work with the factory hitch? I am guessing by the second line it will not

 

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so..... will the above work with the factory hitch? I am guessing by the second line it will not

It should, the factory hitch bolts to the bottom of the frame if I remember right.


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[hoser]

It might bolt up but if the original rear crossmember is removed and so are the triangulated braces, the idea of a 'rated' hitch is lost.

 

[benc]

It might bolt up but if the original rear crossmember is removed and so are the triangulated braces, the idea of a 'rated' hitch is lost.

The bumper will take the place of the rear crossmember with its own triangulated cross bracing. Like I said, it will not be rated but will be stronger than any factory or aftermarket rated receiver.



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[benc]

Again, I know removal of the crossmember will turn some away but this is the route I am going with this bumper. I can not achieve my goals with this bumper with it in place! Sure it will make the install a little more difficult, but you will end up with a much cleaner low profile bumper. If someone is looking for a complete bolt on option this is not the bumper for you, there are already a couple good options for bolt on application. The problem with leaving it in place is its much more difficult to come up with a functional
unique design, that's why the bolt on options currently on the market are very similar. Once you guys see how the receiver will be designed I am sure there will be no concern about it towing the max capacity of the vehicle.


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[hoser]

The bumper will take the place of the rear crossmember with its own triangulated cross bracing. Like I said, it will not be rated but will be stronger than any factory or aftermarket rated.

I'm fine with all that. My point was for those who are trying to retain the OE hitch... And the reasons for doing so.

 

[Get outside]

Ben, what are you thinking as far as steel thickness with this bumper? The rear of the 100 definitely see a lot more abuse than the front!

 

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Ben, what are you thinking as far as steel thickness with this bumper? The rear of the 100 definitely see a lot more abuse than the front!

Yes, the rear will mostly be made from 3/16 with 1/8" for some of the gussets.
While I do think I will be able to cut some weight compared to others it will not be as substantial as the front.




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[redman333]

I think most have said the things I would like and you already have.

I didn't see anything as far as a ladder mount. I use my rig a lot as an overland vehicle and it would be nice to have the spare on one side with the easy open option that you had mentioned already with the other side have a ladder closest to the body and a second swing out that can hold your other accessories such as rotopax or just a cooler rack. So the outer mount would latch onto the ladder rack. Does that make sense? Some one else had mentioned steps in the bumper too. I thought that would be nice.


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[Get outside]

I had plans of starting to build a rear bumper as an one off with my plans/visual aesthetics that please me but have to hold off now to see what comes out of Grassvalley!
One of the things I planned on doing was to integrate steps on both sides, one on each rear corner recessed into the side plates type of thing.

 

[TheForger]

^I like that idea. Similar to the newer body style Silverado rear bumpers