destins 1964 fj40 FST restore thread

[wesintl]

did you take it apart and regrease..

meh on the baking.. you don't plan to actually use it do you?

 

[destin]

did not regrease it, but the action is smooth, and it works perfectly

Baking it will effectively harden the paint correct?

And yeah i will most likely bring a burlier jack on the trails etc.
But i would like the paint to be hardened properly

Wonder if i can find a small used electric oven at good will for next to nothing ( small ) ?

 

[a.greenspan]

after the paint is finished, final coat etc...

Is it smart to "bake" it to cure it?

I remember shane saying he backed his jack after painting for an hour at 150 degrees...
I know for CERTAIN, my wife will not let me put it in the wolf range haha!

What are my options?

Ideas?

not necessary ...
...never "baked" parts when I sprayed them with a can.
Cheers
Peter

 

[destin]

not necessary ...
...never "baked" parts when I sprayed them with a can.
Cheers
Peter

ok cool

I thought rattle cans did not have hardener, and you had to bake them for parts that get a lot of rough and tumble in order to harden properly

But if it is coo as is then all the better

 

[JohnnyC]

diagram it is for a 1969 ...but...better than not

also....nice painting job ...looks great

 

[destin]

diagram it is for a 1969 ...but...better than not

also....nice painting job ...looks great

Thanks man, on both counts

 

[AATLAS1X]

Check the paint with a finger nail in a few days, let me know.

I sweat them first, and yes (sorry Destin) it's a must with the tinted yellow Krylon paint. I have a company that "Bakes" the plastic tops and registers that they paint with a two part epoxy. Similar to powder coating but at a lower temp with plastics.

If you use a torch, you can sweat the metal and watch the moisture line walk away as you move across the metal. This insures for a good bond to primer and primer to paint. As this is not a misting or light amount to get a proper coverage as the paint will run off the peaks of the casting. You will need it to cure and be able to hold several coats to get that powder coated look and even coverage.

I have painted a few over the years.

 

[AATLAS1X]

When your finished crank it up and paint the red dot on the shaft.

 

[destin]

Check the paint with a finger nail in a few days, let me know.

I sweat them first, and yes (sorry Destin) it's a must with the tinted yellow Krylon paint. I have a company that "Bakes" the plastic tops and registers that they paint with a two part epoxy. Similar to powder coating but at a lower temp with plastics.

If you use a torch, you can sweat the metal and watch the moisture line walk away as you move across the metal. This insures for a good bond to primer and primer to paint. As this is not a misting or light amount to get a proper coverage as the paint will run off the peaks of the casting. You will need it to cure and be able to hold several coats to get that powder coated look and even coverage.

I have painted a few over the years.

hmm should i restrip and paint it then?

Or just get a cheap toaster oven and bake the jack?
I think mine is an oder jack, did not see any plastic

Let me know man, may as well do it correctly

or i could just powder coat the damn thing.

 

[AATLAS1X]

hmm should i restrip and paint it then?

Or just get a cheap toaster oven and bake the jack?
I think mine is an oder jack, did not see any plastic

Just toss it in on a cookie sheet at lowest setting with door cracked open for 20 minutes. Can't get much over 120 so keep the door open to compensate. 5 minutes after she is gone.....Covert and all

The plastic I was referencing was for baking was for the heaters in the 74-84 plastic tops that have a two part epoxy that has to be baked to cure.

or i could just powder coat the damn thing.

Can't powder coat it, the grease will come out and kill it.

 

[destin]

Just toss it in on a cookie sheet at lowest setting with door cracked open for 20 minutes. Can't get much over 120 so keep the door open to compensate.

The plastic I was referencing for baking was for the heaters in the 74-84 plastic tops that have a two part epoxy that has to be baked to cure.



Can't powder coat it, the grease will come out and kill it.

nice

So about 120 for a bit will effectively harden the krylon rattle can paint yeah?

Thanks man

 

[AATLAS1X]

nice

So about 120 for a bit will effectively harden the krylon rattle can paint yeah?

Thanks man

Yes,

If it were black cheapo stuff it would be fine. It has something to do with the tinting of the color. Some one can tell you why, I can only tell you how.

 

[a.greenspan]

"tinted yellow Krylon paint"
what kind of paint is that?
never heard about it.
Think Toyota never used such a paint.
If you do a normal paint shop
the steps will be:
a) clean the part
b) remove rust / sand it
c) clean it again
d) spray primer
e) sand it again (finer sandpaper)
f) clean it again
f) spray the top coat

Cheers
Peter

Guys it`s a truck only a truck
don`t pamper it please

 

[AATLAS1X]

"tinted yellow Krylon paint"
what kind of paint is that?
never heard about it.
Think Toyota never used such a paint.
If you do a normal paint shop
the steps will be:
a) clean the part
b) remove rust / sand it
c) clean it again
d) spray primer
e) sand it again (finer sandpaper)
f) clean it again
f) spray the top coat

Cheers
Peter

Guys it`s a truck only a truck
don`t pamper it please

Allan, It's a Jack.

Old Equipment Yellow

Why do you think $10,000 paint jobs are done in a down draft natural gas heated paint booth and not in the barn.

Preheating is the way to go. BUT for cast, it is best to sweet the metal for adhesion.

Cheers,

Shane

 

[a.greenspan]

Allan, It's a Jack.
Cheers,

Shane

forgotten
yes it`s a jack but it`s a tool only a tool
guys do what you want
but
I never, never bake (baked) my tools not in the past and not in the future
Cheers
Peter

 

[AATLAS1X]

forgotten
yes it`s a jack but it`s a tool only a tool
guys do what you want
but
I never, never bake (baked) my tools not in the past and not in the future
Cheers
Peter

Not to "Jack" Destin's thread any more, but it really does make a difference if the finer things that get paint. Mostly on cast parts from motor mounts, jacks, alt mounts and so on.

Allan, I would not jack you.

 

[subzali]

destin, did you paint the threads of the screw part on top too?

 

[destin]

Not to "Jack" Destin's thread any more, but it really does make a difference if the finer things that get paint. Mostly on cast parts from motor mounts, jacks, alt mounts and so on.

Allan, I would not jack you.

haha thanks Shane

I will get a cheap small toaster oven to bake the jack bits.
I see what your saying, even on something i painted last week as a test spray of the yellow is still soft when scraped with a screw driver.

Thanks guys

 

[destin]

destin, did you paint the threads of the screw part on top too?

naw

That bit is all greased up anyhow


Just wanted to protect the jack form rust and the elements, and still have it usable

 

[destin]

"tinted yellow Krylon paint"
what kind of paint is that?
never heard about it.
Think Toyota never used such a paint.
If you do a normal paint shop
the steps will be:
a) clean the part
b) remove rust / sand it
c) clean it again
d) spray primer
e) sand it again (finer sandpaper)
f) clean it again
f) spray the top coat

Cheers
Peter

Guys it`s a truck only a truck
don`t pamper it please

hehe i hear ya

I am using a rattle can for this, so there is no hardener in the paint.
I think the baking acts as a hardener, I just want the paint not to be so soft i cannot use the jack

Cheers!

Destin