Deck Plate Mod....For Increased Cold Weather MPG

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So I know the world is divided on the deck plate intake mod, but everyone is so concerned w/ increased hp and not so much on increased mpg.

Living in WI, my fuel economy always takes a hit in the colder winter months. All the research I have done says that the main reasons for the decrease in mpg is between the cold air being sucked into the engine, and the engine actually never reaching ideal operating temps. A lot of guys who look for increased mpg favor air drawn from withing the engine bay, and will actually route an intake hose close to the exhaust manifolds year round. :eek: For my 02 Honda CRV I made a upper grill block, and partial lower grill block to basically block all air from coming into the front of the engine bay.

The intake for the CRV happens to be routed into the upper grill area, and near the top of the radiator. Using the torque app on my phone and a BT obd2 reader, I was able to monitor engine and intake temps to ensure I wasn't doing any damage. What I found was in cold temps (20f and below?) my thermostat barely even opened even w/ the grill 95% blocked (only really opened when stopped at a light after 70mph highway speeds). I also found that on very cold days (-20f) my intake temps remained 40-50 degrees warmer than ambient temps. The result was for the first time that I can remember my mpg dropped very little, if at all in the colder months.

My plan will be to actually block the cold air intake tube from the fender, and do the deck plate mod. If intake temps aren't warm enough after the deck plate mod, I may even route a tube to draw air from the exhaust manifolds.

Suck it high horsepower, hello lower fuel costs!! :beer:
 
Interesting that I have evidence to prove otherwise. Did you read my post prior to replying?
 
Start with doing the ISR mod (Intake Silencer Removal) and then go from there. I guess you could always go with an actual cold air intake setup, but I think overall the deck plate mod was proven to be a bad idea.
 
Thanks for the link. Wish I knew where the materials for that were sourced.
 
Interesting. what department would that be located in?
 
Well, I have only ran a 4 tanks thru it since I bought it...but every tank is getting better. 18.5 is my latest and best, hoping not to drop in the winter months.
 
I don't really see/understand the logic. Fuel mileage decreases because of fuel additives partially, but also because cold air is more dense. Dense air requires more fuel, and it's also why cars make more power in cool weather. Kinda funny.
 
Pulling warm air from engine bay to increase fuel economy doesn't make sense? I already make acrylic inserts for the upper and lower grills, now to do the deck plate mod to pull the warm air from the engine bay.

Remember, this is just for winter experiments, not full time. I am sensing the negative vibes already, and will just have to provide data to appease the haterz.
 
Pulling warm air from engine bay to increase fuel economy doesn't make sense? I already make acrylic inserts for the upper and lower grills, now to do the deck plate mod to pull the warm air from the engine bay.

Remember, this is just for winter experiments, not full time. I am sensing the negative vibes already, and will just have to provide data to appease the haterz.
No need to be defensive. In my opinion, it sounds like a lot of work for a few months out of the year or however long your winter is. Most people know I don't care about MPG. Hell, I'd drive my SAS'd Tacoma on 37's that gets 9mpg every day if it didn't suck to drive. If you see a benefit, more power to ya.
 
No need to be defensive. In my opinion, it sounds like a lot of work for a few months out of the year or however long your winter is. Most people know I don't care about MPG. Hell, I'd drive my SAS'd Tacoma on 37's that gets 9mpg every day if it didn't suck to drive. If you see a benefit, more power to ya.

Wasn't getting defensive, sorry if it came across that way. stop being so sensitive! Gives me something to do in the winter.
 
I think it is an interesting experiment, and am curious what you find out. Have you already removed your roof rails?
If you are already getting 18.5 mpg (U.S. mpg, calculated using distance / gallons, not relying on the display in the car) then you are already doing way better than average. With that kind of fuel economy, your range would be well over 200 miles. I just don't see how you could realistically expect to improve on that. But I am interested in reading about it, so continue on.

My suggestions to improve fuel economy would be :
block heater (to reduce warmup enrichment time)
0w-30 oil with ceratec additive
krytox in all wheel bearings
electric cooling fan
turn off A/C
etc. etc.
 
I think it is an interesting experiment, and am curious what you find out. Have you already removed your roof rails?
If you are already getting 18.5 mpg (U.S. mpg, calculated using distance / gallons, not relying on the display in the car) then you are already doing way better than average. With that kind of fuel economy, your range would be well over 200 miles. I just don't see how you could realistically expect to improve on that. But I am interested in reading about it, so continue on.

My suggestions to improve fuel economy would be :
block heater (to reduce warmup enrichment time)
0w-30 oil with ceratec additive
krytox in all wheel bearings
electric cooling fan
turn off A/C
etc. etc.
I'm all for cool experiments, but doesn't adding all this stuff sort of out weight the cost of the fuel savings? Haha, like "I saved $200 on gas this winter! Only cost me $300!"
 
I'm all for cool experiments, but doesn't adding all this stuff sort of out weight the cost of the fuel savings? Haha, like "I saved $200 on gas this winter! Only cost me $300!"

For sure! "This winter" it cost $300, but think about the next 50 years!
 
I do not understand how u get better MPG with warmer air. Cold air is denser, which provides more power. Similar to driving at a lower elevation. If u have more power, but still drive the same speed as summer time, it should thus require less throttle to maintain that speed, and thus give the same MPG. Either way your chasing .5 MPG better mileage, and gas is cheap right now. I would focus your time on something else. The few years gas was really expensive 5 years ago, made many people very worried about MPG. Some still are even though gas is cheap.
 
What is this "winter" everyone keeps talking about? It just gets in the 30s here for a month or two :P
 
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