Daytime Running Lights in a 77 (24v)

[George Cowan]

Day Time Running Lights

My buddy just bought a DTRL module from Canadian Tire for $25. At first look it appears that the signal to turn on the lights comes from a spark plug wire but once you look at the instruction sheet you will find that for diesels you can get a signal from the oil pressure switch or any high 12V source. I think I will be using my hand brake circuit. Hand brake on - no running lights.

 

[108Cruz]

After reading the above post's in regards to DRL. I am still a bit confused if DRL are a legal requirement.

I have a 1990 LJ71 which does not have DRL.

The B.C. Motor Veh. Act quoted above says " A motor vehicle may be equiped with daytime running lamps " The word " may " leaves it open somewhat as Previa Diesel above states,

Wayne says there is a cut off date of Dec. 89 and then you need them.

My Veh. has been assigned a B.C. Vin. number which I take that it has passed an inspection to get into the country , meaning that it should be up to snuff on the legal aspects of the M.V.A. ( hopefully )

While on the topic of lights ,does anyone's L.C. have a buzzer system that tells you that you left your lights on when you exit the veh. and lock the doors. I've forgotten numerous times that I left my lights on.

Thanks

Peter

 

[Stone]

While on the topic of lights ,does anyone's L.C. have a buzzer system that tells you that you left your lights on when you exit the veh. and lock the doors. I've forgotten numerous times that I left my lights on.

Thanks

Peter

Nope...but again easily taken care of with a simple 24v relay and maybe using that annoying speed buzzer that came from the factory that comes on at about 105 km/h. I haven't done this with my truck because frankly, there's getting to be waaaay too many relays for my taste in my truck.

 

[Previa Diesel]

I have a 1990 LJ71 which does not have DRL. My Veh. has been assigned a B.C. Vin. number which I take that it has passed an inspection to get into the country , meaning that it should be up to snuff on the legal aspects of the M.V.A.

Did you buy it from an importer and was it inspected and registered before you bought it?

If so, I would take it back to them and ask that they correct the problem. If they want to take it up with their inspector they can; not your problem. I'd be surprised if there are any importers who don't know about the DRT rule by now and any inspection joint that bothers to read the manual should know too.

 

[108Cruz]

I bought the veh. 2 weeks ago from a Toyota dealership in B.C. I assume that it was inspected and registered for the dealership to buy it from the importer and then sell it to any prosepective buyer.

I put a call in to the dealership to get info as to who the importer is etc.

I take it that it is reg.'d since I have a new B.C. assigned VIN plate on the door frame

Peter

 

[crushers]

all units 12/89 and newer MUST have daytime running lights.
i would return it to the dealer and get them to install the lights for free...

 

[jcolvin]

Seems the local shops are all scared to try installing DRTs in my 90 HZJ77, but it has to be done. I would really appreciate some tips from someone who has installed DRTs on a 24v system

Ok, here's another question. Where/which is the relay that turns on the parking lights? I want to just run a wire from the IG on the power box to this relay..simplest way to do it, no extra relays required, no?

I'd like to run a wire straight from IG to the lights themselves but I don't think this can work; the wire that get 24 V when the light switch is turned on, sees ground when they are off, so it would short out when the switch was turned off.

 

[jcolvin]

Ok, here's another question. Where/which is the relay that turns on the parking lights? I want to just run a wire from the IG on the power box to this relay..simplest way to do it, no extra relays required, no?

I'd like to run a wire straight from IG to the lights themselves but I don't think this can work; the wire that get 24 V when the light switch is turned on, sees ground when they are off, so it would short out when the switch was turned off.

Not possible. Seems the only way to do it is indeed with a 24 v relay attached to the ground from the parking light relay (under the steering column). Getting a splice on the (little, green) ground wire off this relay is the only PITA about the job. I use the IGN and GND terminals in the under-hood power outlet.

 

[BiffS]

Guys, Guys, guys . .

As an owner of a 77 (bought thru Jcolvin) it's really quite simple to do:

the 77 has a headlight relay on the left side of the steering column under the dash - but ABOVE the ducting for the heater, so that has to be pulled to access since it's buried behind some plastic.

on mine, i ran a 24V relay from the "on" position to the relay, and jumped the output before the relay trigger on the factory headlight relay.

so then it's a moot point: using CSA / DOT / MOT approved H4 headlights, no funkin around with the 12 / 24V conversions with the parking light system.

my 2 cents.

 

[M John Galt]

I use the IGN and GND terminals in the under-hood power outlet.

I'm guessing those go to a relay coil.
Where do you connect to the parking light circuit with power from the relay?

 

[jcolvin]

I'm guessing those go to a relay coil.
Where do you connect to the parking light circuit with power from the relay?

Ok, the way *I* did it was to find the relay Biff is talking about (it's under the steering wheel). I didn't have to remove any ducting, I could (just) get at it from under the dash. There's a couple relays under there, one way to find the right one is to touch 'em and feel which one clicks when you turn on your parking lights. To make sure, you can pull the relay and make sure they don't come on any more.

There is a small green wire that comes off this relay (on the other side of the connection block); this is the ground that switches on the parking lights. I wiggled a splice onto this wire. I connected this splice to one switched side of the 24 V relay. I jumped the other switched side to the ground of the 24 V relay ( which I also grounded to the GND on the power block under the hood). The hot side of the 24 V relay went to the IGN on the power block.

Now, when IGN is on, the relay I installed energizes, this connects the green ground wire on the under-dash relay to ground, and bingo your parking lights come on. Your dash lights also come on as a side effect.

Is this the best way to do it? hmmmmm..not sure.