Cummins 4bt into my FJ60 (1 Viewer)

[GLTHFJ60]

Wyoming, what casting number is your bellhousing? Which ranger did you get?

 

[Wyoming]

Wyoming, what casting number is your bellhousing? Which ranger did you get?

I'm going to have to crawl under it to find the casting number. I just called the junk yard in I.F. and told them to send me a bell housing out of an early '70s Chevy small block pickup. I think it is the Ranger III. I'll have to check that too.

 

[davegonz]

How far back is your shifter going to be?

 

[LandBruiser69]

Your Motor mounts...

Hey man, I am about ready to mount my 4bt up to my FJ62 frame. do you have some close up pics you could send me of how you mounted the Cummins to the frame? Any help would be appreciated!!! natwell@gmail.com. By the way, your rig is going to be awesome! Its cummin together quick LOL...

 

[Wyoming]

How far back is your shifter going to be?

The shifter is in the stock location.

 

[Wyoming]

Hey man, I am about ready to mount my 4bt up to my FJ62 frame. do you have some close up pics you could send me of how you mounted the Cummins to the frame? Any help would be appreciated!!! natwell@gmail.com. By the way, your rig is going to be awesome! Its cummin together quick LOL...

Thanks, but it is not going fast enough for me.

I have not gotten to the install portion of the build yet (What is in the picture above is from when I swapped frames a while back). I'm still in the engine building stage, but I'm getting close to the end of that. I have not even measured for the engine install yet. I will be using the engine mounts I welded to the frame when I installed the frame and fabricating the brackets that will go on the block. Do you have a set of forklift engine isolators? I just learned about these. Ask for them at NAPA. I will try to get you a part number when I get mine from a buddy. Below is a picture of what I have to work with on the frame now. What I do know, if your frame is stock, you will have to cut off your engine mount brackets. At this point, I would weld in a 10 or 12 inch plate on the frame rails to weld new brackets to. Hang your engine between the rails and tack your mounts together. If you end up using the isolators, remember that they will compress an inch or so. the thing I'm anticipating is that the Cummins is so tall that I'm going to have to put it significantly lower than the 383. This should cause me to have to lower the transmission and transfer case too.

 

[LandBruiser69]

Thank you for the info!!! yes I do plan on using vibration isolators when I mount mine so KIT!! I would love that part number...I too noticed that the engine will have to be mounted lower than the stock location. talk to you soon...

 

[LandBruiser69]

by the way, are you going to go SOA?

 

[Wyoming]

by the way, are you going to go SOA?

If you go back and check out post 342 in this thread, you will see that I added longer spring hangers when I refurbished the frame. This gave me a massive lift (More than I wanted at the time).

 

[Elbert]

YOu better check out the SOA ...reason is the 4bt engine setup is fairly tall compared to stock. And from others posts...you need some clearance at the front axle. for the oil pan.

 

[LandBruiser69]

Looks like he will have plenty of lift. Judging from his new perches

 

[isbj60]

Thanks, but it is not going fast enough for me.

I have not gotten to the install portion of the build yet (What is in the picture above is from when I swapped frames a while back). I'm still in the engine building stage, but I'm getting close to the end of that. I have not even measured for the engine install yet. I will be using the engine mounts I welded to the frame when I installed the frame and fabricating the brackets that will go on the block. Do you have a set of forklift engine isolators? I just learned about these. Ask for them at NAPA. I will try to get you a part number when I get mine from a buddy. Below is a picture of what I have to work with on the frame now. What I do know, if your frame is stock, you will have to cut off your engine mount brackets. At this point, I would weld in a 10 or 12 inch plate on the frame rails to weld new brackets to. Hang your engine between the rails and tack your mounts together. If you end up using the isolators, remember that they will compress an inch or so. the thing I'm anticipating is that the Cummins is so tall that I'm going to have to put it significantly lower than the 383. This should cause me to have to lower the transmission and transfer case too.

I want to know how you got the top of your shock mounts so shiny...

 

[Wyoming]

I want to know how you got the top of your shock mounts so shiny...

Lol! POR15 paint. Which, i had to grind off to weld my engine mounts on. Grrrr...

 

[chief tool]

Nice work.

Custom builds are never that straight forward.

I noticed though that the the combustion chamber (in the piston crown) on page 9 is not the same shape as it is on the replacement pistons on page 10.
I assume you've got this in hand already, but usually piston crown combustion chamber shapes are very motor specific in diesels. I don't know whether your originals were wrong, or maybe the new ones are, but the difference would have a significant performance impact.

Keep up the good work.
I always find in interesting just how many US members go to the effort of converting to diesel.
It too bad Toyota never sold diesels there back in the day.
I know what you're all going through. I've inherited a 3F engined FJ62, ugh!

 

[Wyoming]

Nice work.

Custom builds are never that straight forward.

I noticed though that the the combustion chamber (in the piston crown) on page 9 is not the same shape as it is on the replacement pistons on page 10.
I assume you've got this in hand already, but usually piston crown combustion chamber shapes are very motor specific in diesels. I don't know whether your originals were wrong, or maybe the new ones are, but the difference would have a significant performance impact.

Keep up the good work.
I always find in interesting just how many US members go to the effort of converting to diesel.
It too bad Toyota never sold diesels there back in the day.
I know what you're all going through. I've inherited a 3F engined FJ62, ugh!

Yeah, I changed the pistons and the injectors to match each other. I purchased up-horsepower injectors for the Dodge Cummins '94-'98 6bt and then got the pistons to match when I bought the overhaul kit. Good eye though!

Back in the day, I had a 70s FJ40 with a 2F(?) in it. Whatever it was it hated the highway. I could put in in first and it would idle up hills though. When I bought the FJ60, i bought it without an engine and never had any thought about putting anything other than a V8 in it with the Ranger so I could drive on the highway without having the engine screaming.

As time passed and my skill set evolved I have started to think in terms of anything being possible. Now, I'm trying to find a balance between cool and real functionality. A four cylinder diesel fits the bill...for now.

 

[StevoJonesFJ60]

Hey lookin good,

Brief Hijack,
I know you have been searching around a lot of different parts and have a bunch of diesel shop owners tuned into your build. I just wanted to see if you or anyone tuned into your build happen to know where I could pick up one of these guys, just the top piece with the index marks:



Mine is worn out and allows the throttle to "reindex" itself when I rev it out. I have looked around but can't seem to source one.

Back to your build though keep it up, I didn't notice you had picked up some bigger injectors. What ones did you end up going with?

 

[Wyoming]

Hey lookin good,

Brief Hijack,
I know you have been searching around a lot of different parts and have a bunch of diesel shop owners tuned into your build. I just wanted to see if you or anyone tuned into your build happen to know where I could pick up one of these guys, just the top piece with the index marks:

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Mine is worn out and allows the throttle to "reindex" itself when I rev it out. I have looked around but can't seem to source one.

Back to your build though keep it up, I didn't notice you had picked up some bigger injectors. What ones did you end up going with?

Not sure what I'm looking at Stevo? Give me a wider shot if you can. The three shops I'm recommending are City Diesel (Talk to Cullmancruiser), Endurance (Ask for Preston), and South Central Diesel (Ask for Mike)(The last two are in Nebraska). I think what I'm looking at goes to the injection pump. If so, try South Central Diesel first. They have a pretty nice injection pump testing and rebuilding facility.

Thanks for the compliment but I haven't gotten very far in a few weeks. Waiting for parts. The last ones are the hardest to find. And, I've been working a lot of hours at the jobs.

 

[StevoJonesFJ60]

It is part of my VE pump. I should have been more specific.
Thanks for the shop infor I will have to check them out.

I know how it is waiting for parts and working more than one job. Just ang in there the truck will be a pleasure to drive when it is finished.

 

[cullmancruiser]

It is part of my VE pump. I should have been more specific.
Thanks for the shop infor I will have to check them out.

I know how it is waiting for parts and working more than one job. Just ang in there the truck will be a pleasure to drive when it is finished.

We can probably get that for you but it would probably be better for you to get it locally if you can. One shop I know of in NJ is Garden State Diesel Phone: 856.914.9797.

You can also check out Association of Diesel Specialists | Diesel Service | Diesel Repair to find other diesel fuel injection shops in your area. You can save some time when you contact them by having your pump number ready. It will be a 10 digit number probably something like 0 460 xxx xxx.

 

[StevoJonesFJ60]

We can probably get that for you but it would probably be better for you to get it locally if you can. One shop I know of in NJ is Garden State Diesel Phone: 856.914.9797.

You can also check out Association of Diesel Specialists | Diesel Service | Diesel Repair to find other diesel fuel injection shops in your area. You can save some time when you contact them by having your pump number ready. It will be a 10 digit number probably something like 0 460 xxx xxx.

Hey, thanks a lot Cullman.

Do you happen to know where on the pump that number is located?