camp stoves for FJ40's

[chicago]

Hey all,
Just getting to do my first long run in my freshly built 40, and am now realizing that the storage space in this is NOT the space that I got used to in my FJ62.
Im looking for a SMALL, COMPACT stove like the coleman fold n go or this lil guy....

Century Single Burner Stove - Free Shipping at REI.com

Both are 10K btu, but this single bruner would be NICE and COMPACT.
Could use one for coffee and the other for breakfast or beans etc.
What are you guys using!?!?!
I think I can do without a backpack stove. Dont wanna go quite THAT compact unless you guys have any good endorsements for applications as above.

Post up any info or recommendations.

 

[chicago]

This one looks interesting too!
20K BTU/ burner!!! Not as compact of course, but....the wife likes this one.

God, Im so paranoid about this packing thing right now!!!

 

[chicago]

ooops....
heres the link!

Camp Chef Everest 2-Burner Camp Stove - Free Shipping at REI.com

 

[Corbet]

I always used my 2 burner Colman dual fuel stove when I camped out of my 40. I had a pair of the small action packers and a 50 quart cooler along with the stove that all fit nicely in the back of the 40 like a puzzle. Made a great first level then put the soft goods on top.

Its funny how you can always fill the vehicle you have regardless of size when camping. Now my 80 never seems big enough.

 

[chicago]

So you were able to fit the stove inside of the action packer?
That a pretty big stove. A friend (rustyTLC) uses one of those too.
I have a Coleman grill that I pack too.

 

[chicago]

Isnt that the truth re the size of the rig!!!
Trying to scale the comforts I had innthe wagon to a 40 is a slap of reality.

 

[jasharp]

I use one of these, compact and will run on gasoline:

--Amazon link--

EDIT: I should say I typically use white gas/Coleman fuel, but gasoline performance seems to be the same with no real gasoline smell (which I initially was concerned about.)

 

[Corbet]

So you were able to fit the stove inside of the action packer?

No, the stove was packed along side the cooler and action packers. But I got all my cooking and other camp "tools" in one action packer. All my dry food goods in the other, bread, chips, etc... Stove is pretty small IMO. But I now carry a 3 burner Camp Chef so its all relative.

Coleman - Classic 2-Burner Stove

What I really liked about the set up was that it made a pretty level platform of gear.

 

[Biscuit]

I have a dual fuel Coleman (414 I think) two burner that fits nicely under the storage platform I made from an old plastic pallet. Stows away nicely and lives in the back of the truck.

 

[Bogo]

For compactness I use my old dual fuel MSR backpacking stove. Any of the modern versions would work, and then you also have a stove for backpacking. I don't know the BTU output of my old MSR, but it will heat a 14" wok properly and it doesn't need to be used at full power to do that. Unless you do allot of cooking a single medium SIG bottle is all that is needed for a weekend.

As for my old Coleman 2 burner. I use allot of the case interior for packing other cooking stuff in. So in reality it isn't taking up that much extra room.

 

[KayakPanic]

x2 on an MSR Whisperlight. Also, I got rid of my 40 mostly because I couldn't pack a weeks worth of gear from myself and my dog.

One thing to consider is where you will go/what fuel you want. A Whisperlight is nice because the fuel canister is not permanantly sealed and pressurized. I would harken a guess that you would not be able to get a sealed can of Coleman propane across the Northern or Southern border, and certainly not onto a plane. They may be hard to find for purchase in Mexico, or other areas of the USA.

MSR now makes a more expensive international model that will run on pretty much any fuel: white gas, gasoline, ETC

Barring that, you should just go for an old vintage Coleman side-by-side white gas burner set, to match the vintage of your 40!

 

[chicago]

Thanks for all the replies!!
I guess what and how I'll be using it would help.

So the stove is not used as much as my grill, but it is used daily when camping. Mostly for coffee and simple stuff like eggs, beans and stuff. Coffee is probably the MOST important.
How are those lil backpack stoves in the wind??
Most wheeling trips I do are no more than 4 days. If the wife is along... Ive gotta make her happy before anything else, but when I'm solo, or w/ a friend we can get away w/ less, of course.
Death valley can be VERY WINDY!!! hence the concern w/ the wind.

 

[Corbet]

How are those lil backpack stoves in the wind??

they suck for the most part. Beyond boiling water they are kind of useless IMO. I've owned or used most of them over the years. I have pretty much given up trying to cook anything other than a dehydrated or boiled meal on one. If I had to pick a backpacking stove for car camping use it would be the Coleman as its the closest thing to a real stove as far as heat control and the ability to hold a full sized pan.

Coleman - Sportster II Dual Fuel? 1-Burner Stove

 

[Bogo]

Take the two burner Coleman. That back is an easy setup for handling the wind.

My MSR handles the wind fine if you use a wind screen, but it can be fiddly to get it working well with a windscreen. Mainly issues with the screen it's self. I'm not sure the wind could blow out my MSR, but then it was made for high mountain use and the flame is will protected from the wind. The wind screens are more to keep the heat where it is needed to heat the pot rather than getting blow away with the wind.

As for use, if you want to simmer, then don't pump more than a few pumps of air into the tank. Even the Colemans are more controllable if not over pumped.

 

[chicago]

Does no one like the propane stoves?
If not, why?
Reason I'm asking is, my grill is propane and it makes sense that I stick w/ that fuel source as opposed to carrying two different fuels.
You guys got me thinking on the duel fuels, but... I'll be carrying propane anyway.

Thanks for all the input!

 

[Corbet]

I use isobutane stoves for backpacking. The MSR whisper light equivalent and a Jetboil. I prefer them in the backcountry as they are cleaner and easier to simmer. But you have to carry the fuel cans and they are temp sensitive. I like the white gas better for car camping. That's just a preference. I don't like throwing away all the little coleman bottles. Plus the white gas starts a campfire real nice. My big Camp Chef is propane but connects to a 5 gal refillable bottle. Not a compact unit.

If your already carrying propane look into a set up where you run everything off a single 2 gal refillable bottle. Colman makes a propane tree. But there are probably other too. That would make sense to me. The only thing that sucks about propane is real cold weather its hard for it to flow after the bottle is about half empty.

 

[Corbet]

I should add: If you decide on propane then this is the line of stoves I'd buy: http://www.partnersteel.com/?prod01

 

[tperry616]

This has always been my favorite personal stove system. If you're just doing simple stuff like beans, coffee (they even have a coffee press attachment that turns the whole thing into a big coffee press) this would be my recommendation. It packs into itself so it stores super small.

Jetboil Zip Cooking System from Backcountry.com

 

[Bogo]

My reason for white gas has to do with both cold and altitude. It works better in both situations. My MSR and Coleman stoves will light and operate at 10k feet and -40F without significant loss in performance.

A short height stove can also be used to warm up an engine before starting it on a very cold morning. Fire up the stove, and slip it under the middle of the engine. Block the wind as best possible. Block the radiator area. Also blankets or similar on the hood will help keep the heat in. Note: keep burnable stuff like grasses and oil drips away from the stove. You will also need to clear out any snow from under the stove area. This is so the stove can sit on the ground and not get upset when it melts the snow under it.

 

[Mace]

It never gets cold enough in Reno to not be able to start a gas truck with a good battery

Chicago.. The double old school coleman white gas stoves can be run on propane with a adapter. And they can run off of white gas or gasoline in a crunch. The adapters work great and are easy.

I just got a single (and another double burner) dual fuel coleman stove off of craigslist for $30 for the pair. I'm going to leave the single burner in the 60 as a "incase"

Make Rusty go yard saleing for you to find one for $5