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Old 10-21-09, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Warn Hub (coarse spline) Cleaning and Rebuilding

One of my "take home" projects while my FJ40 is being worked on by Mark (marksoffroad.net) has been to cleanup and rebuild a pair of Warn M193 hubs for my coarse spline birfs. These will be replacing the failed Selectros.

I bought a pair of dirty used hubs during one of my stops at the shop, and took them home to rebuild over the weekend. Total time start to finish, including trips to the hardware store and auto parts store was about 4hrs. That includes slacking between steps.

Here is what the hubs looked like when I started.

Hub 1:
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Old 10-21-09, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Disassembling the hubs is easy. You need a hex-key (alan wrench) to remove the 6 screws on the top of the hub. At this point you should be able to remove the hub dial and locking mechanism from the body of the hub.

This is a good point to break out the rubber gloves and paper towel as there will be a substantial amount of old grease left in the hub.

As the grease is removed you will be able to unthread the locking mechanism (it is reverse threaded). The hub's dial is held in place with a spring clip ring. A set of spring clip pliers will make removal of this much easier. There is also a spring clip on the bottom (inboard) side of the hub that holds the adapter piece in place (adapts from birf to locking mechanism). Remove that as well.

Once the spring clips are removed all the pieces should have separated. Remove the paper gasket from the hub casing and the rubber o-rings from the hub dial.

All the parts post de-greasing and before washing:
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To wash the parts, I used lacquer thinner in combination with a parts brush, toothbrush, scotch brite pad, and steel wool.

Here is what one hub worth of parts looked like after they were washed:
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2000 Jetta TDI - 45mpg on dino-oil. Take that hippies.


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Old 10-21-09, 01:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Reassembly is the reverse of how it came apart.

Put the o-rings on the back of the dial, put the dial through the housing ring. The thrust washer goes on first, then the spring clip. At that point you can thread the locking mechanism on (remember reverse threads).

Small o-ring on the dial:
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Reassembled top half (yes I know the thrust washer isn't on in this pic):
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Reassembling the bottom half is just as easy, insert the adapter piece the correct way (teeth inside the hub). Place the thrust washer and spring clip on the bottom of the adapter to hold it in place. I installed the top half of the hub to hold the adapter where I wanted it to make setting the spring clip easier.

Picture of the adapter, washer, and spring clip:
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Old 10-21-09, 01:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Finally I re-separated the halves of the hub and applied high speed wheel bearing grease. You don't need to pack the hub. A light-ish coating will work.

Greased up hubs:
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Finally put the hub halves back together with the paper gasket in between the casing parts. Tighten down the 6 screws and you are done. (I'm missing six screws).

You can test the locking of the hubs by setting the dial to lock and see if you can move the adapter.

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2000 Jetta TDI - 45mpg on dino-oil. Take that hippies.


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Old 10-21-09, 03:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Good info/pics.






Too much grease in that lockout body for me...



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Old 10-21-09, 10:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'll separate the two halves prior to install to see if the grease has redistributed a bit. Worst case is I remove some of the grease.

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Rebuilding Coarse Spline Warn Hubs? Look Here
Need to make a cheap F stock air cleaner lid gasket? Look here

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2000 Jetta TDI - 45mpg on dino-oil. Take that hippies.


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Old 10-22-09, 10:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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So other than cleaning and regreasing, what new parts are in the hubs? I've never rebuilt hubs, but it sounds like a better option than buying new.
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Old 10-22-09, 11:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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No new part in these as all metal and rubber were in good shape. Warn does sell a rebuild kit which I believe includes the dial and some internals.

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Installing a PakiTop? Look here
Rebuilding Coarse Spline Warn Hubs? Look Here
Need to make a cheap F stock air cleaner lid gasket? Look here

1974 FJ40 - Upgrading to Stock
2000 Jetta TDI - 45mpg on dino-oil. Take that hippies.


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