Bubba Rope
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crushers
post ho
i use this:
http://www.masterpull.com/full-size-truck-suv-kinetic-recovery-ropes/
and have for years.
much nicer than a strap, a strap is just a small step above a chain.
i get 50' and 100' made up.
don't knock it till you try it and your eyes will be opened.
http://www.masterpull.com/full-size-truck-suv-kinetic-recovery-ropes/
and have for years.
much nicer than a strap, a strap is just a small step above a chain.
i get 50' and 100' made up.
don't knock it till you try it and your eyes will be opened.
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Southeast Overland
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As a general rule of thumb nylon snatch straps stretch in the ballpark of 10% and kinetic recovery ropes are around 27-30%.
Ropes are much more effective due to the additional stretch and are much easier on the neck and back for long off road tows.
We splice our kinetic ropes in house. $105.95 for a 20' x 7/8" and $125.95 for a 30'. Mention MUD and I'll give ya free shipping for an order of Southeast Overland recovery gear over $100.
And all of our low stretch tree straps, mid stretch snatch straps, and high stretch recovery rope base materials are made in the US or Canada and assembled in our shop. Check out the thread "The things I make" for some additional pics.
Ropes are much more effective due to the additional stretch and are much easier on the neck and back for long off road tows.
We splice our kinetic ropes in house. $105.95 for a 20' x 7/8" and $125.95 for a 30'. Mention MUD and I'll give ya free shipping for an order of Southeast Overland recovery gear over $100.
And all of our low stretch tree straps, mid stretch snatch straps, and high stretch recovery rope base materials are made in the US or Canada and assembled in our shop. Check out the thread "The things I make" for some additional pics.
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Let's assume for a second that I'm convinced.
Both of the straps I've had I've broken pulling out other people's junk. They always offer to replace them, then it never happens.
I somehow envision my $100ish rope breaking sometime and I'm going to wish then that I went for a cheap harbor freight POS. Maybe I should get both, one for me (that I'll never have to use
) and one for all the fools I'm always pulling out.
$33 = 27000 lbs breaking strength
Both of the straps I've had I've broken pulling out other people's junk. They always offer to replace them, then it never happens.
I somehow envision my $100ish rope breaking sometime and I'm going to wish then that I went for a cheap harbor freight POS. Maybe I should get both, one for me (that I'll never have to use
) and one for all the fools I'm always pulling out.$33 = 27000 lbs breaking strength
crushers
post ho
for me, money is not the deciding factor.
i pay $200 for the 100 ft and $100 for the 50 ft (or there abouts since they last so bloody long i forget)
it is the shock load on the frame, hitch, my body that concerns me more. the gentle pull vrs the wack of a strap.
if you are busting the strap then either you are buying a strap that is too light for your application or you are running over a sharp edge. both are s***ty practice and you need to review your plan of attack better.
the rope is not designed to go over sharp objects so for that application a $33 strap is a good investment but why not just use a chain and be done with it?
once again, till you have tried the rope then you have no idea how nice a tug you get verses the brute force of the strap.
i have listened to the "rope cost so much" argument for decades now and most that actually try the rope have gone out and bought one of their own.
this is one of those debates that can't be realized in black and white, real world experience is needed to appreciate the difference.
i pay $200 for the 100 ft and $100 for the 50 ft (or there abouts since they last so bloody long i forget)
it is the shock load on the frame, hitch, my body that concerns me more. the gentle pull vrs the wack of a strap.
if you are busting the strap then either you are buying a strap that is too light for your application or you are running over a sharp edge. both are s***ty practice and you need to review your plan of attack better.
the rope is not designed to go over sharp objects so for that application a $33 strap is a good investment but why not just use a chain and be done with it?
once again, till you have tried the rope then you have no idea how nice a tug you get verses the brute force of the strap.
i have listened to the "rope cost so much" argument for decades now and most that actually try the rope have gone out and bought one of their own.
this is one of those debates that can't be realized in black and white, real world experience is needed to appreciate the difference.
Southeast Overland
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Let's assume for a second that I'm convinced. Both of the straps I've had I've broken pulling out other people's junk. They always offer to replace them, then it never happens. I somehow envision my $100ish rope breaking sometime and I'm going to wish then that I went for a cheap harbor freight POS. Maybe I should get both, one for me (that I'll never have to use
If you are breaking straps then the straps are undersized, compromised (abraded/cut/worn) or simply cheaply made of materials and assembly. Southeast Overland does not and will not carry inexpensive, over seas made recovery straps, rope, or winch line. People can be seriously hurt if one of those fails. I've abused my rope and it still works great. I tested for awhile before I carried the product.
Yup, for many straps 1" = about 10,000 lbs or a little less average break strength. Our straps are made (bulk material) in South Carolina and sewn in North Carolina. They also have wear indicator strands sewn in the body length wise and an abrasion resistant edging woven into the edges of the straps. They are a step or two above those in your link.
I don't buy, sell, or use cheap recovery gear. It's like buying a budget air bag. I want the good stuff.
Southeast Overland
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If you are paying anywhere near that for 7/8" in today's market then I'd be shocked. You are talking below wholesale prices there.
crushers
post ho
the last pair i bought was back in 08 or 09
the pair before that was around 1990
as long as you let them dry out (hang vrs throw on the ground) and don't pull across sharp edges (rock, bumpers, stupid people's heads) they last for decades.
i bought your winch rope, very nice stuff.
the pair before that was around 1990
as long as you let them dry out (hang vrs throw on the ground) and don't pull across sharp edges (rock, bumpers, stupid people's heads) they last for decades.
i bought your winch rope, very nice stuff.
Hi Guys,
Bubba Rope here - Crushers and Southeast Overland are 100% correct! Kinetic Energy Recovery Ropes (KERR) are the best tool for vehicle recovery - bar none. The US Military has been using KERR ropes for decades because they need to get out fast and clean. Chains are made for lifting - period. Web straps are made for towing or tying stuff down. Neither stretch. They are cheap because they are made off shore. With a KERR rope you have stretch converting into energy so you can pull out a larger vehicle with a smaller one and you don't break things. If you cut or break a KERR rope it will travel straight back along the path of your point of connection. A chain ALWAYS flies up and can cause mayhem, destruction and death. Straps fly up and to the sides.
Bubba Ropes are somewhat different then Southeast Overland or Master Pull (both quality products) but what ever you buy choose a KERR rope first and you will never look back to cheap straps for vehicle recovery again.
Happy Wheelin'
Bubba Rope here - Crushers and Southeast Overland are 100% correct! Kinetic Energy Recovery Ropes (KERR) are the best tool for vehicle recovery - bar none. The US Military has been using KERR ropes for decades because they need to get out fast and clean. Chains are made for lifting - period. Web straps are made for towing or tying stuff down. Neither stretch. They are cheap because they are made off shore. With a KERR rope you have stretch converting into energy so you can pull out a larger vehicle with a smaller one and you don't break things. If you cut or break a KERR rope it will travel straight back along the path of your point of connection. A chain ALWAYS flies up and can cause mayhem, destruction and death. Straps fly up and to the sides.
Bubba Ropes are somewhat different then Southeast Overland or Master Pull (both quality products) but what ever you buy choose a KERR rope first and you will never look back to cheap straps for vehicle recovery again.
Happy Wheelin'
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I'm sure all the above are true of the ones I've broken.
Your's are really nice for just a little more $$.
crushers
post ho
i am doing a recovery course for the local club next weekend.
after this thread i posted up that part of the course will be a chain to a tree, a strap to a tree and a KERR to a tree.
they can hook to each with their personal vehicle and try each out.
should be interesting to watch.
after this thread i posted up that part of the course will be a chain to a tree, a strap to a tree and a KERR to a tree.
they can hook to each with their personal vehicle and try each out.
should be interesting to watch.
Awesome idea Crushers. Let them feel the difference for themselves. Glad you are teaching a vehicle recovery course. There are a lot new people getting into the amazing thrill of off-roading and a little education will keep people safer and having more fun.
Happy Wheelin'
Happy Wheelin'
Bubba rope, for the two posts you have made so far, I like how you roll.
You may notice that ishobie has a video on IH8mud's front page reviewing/advertising your product.
Maybe sometime we can talk you into being a vendor or maybe giving ihmud members an annual sale or group buy deal? I've been eyeing up your product and overlands for a while, as my cruiser just had two straps stolen as well as tools and electronics the other weekend I maybe looking to replace mine soon.
BTW, welcome to mud!
You may notice that ishobie has a video on IH8mud's front page reviewing/advertising your product.
Maybe sometime we can talk you into being a vendor or maybe giving ihmud members an annual sale or group buy deal? I've been eyeing up your product and overlands for a while, as my cruiser just had two straps stolen as well as tools and electronics the other weekend I maybe looking to replace mine soon.
BTW, welcome to mud!
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
here you have an option ..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-Pull...Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c33417953&vxp=mtr
I have a super Yanker and works wonders for me ..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-Pull...0lb-/161022941086?hash=item257db7179e&vxp=mtr
I understand they have a life span ..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-Pull...Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c33417953&vxp=mtr
I have a super Yanker and works wonders for me ..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-Pull...0lb-/161022941086?hash=item257db7179e&vxp=mtr
I understand they have a life span ..
crushers
post ho
the super yanker is the one i have the 100 and 50 of ...
damn nice stuff.
i find 20 and 30 ft are too short to get the benefit from the kinetics , still better than a strap but 50 is the shortest i would go.
damn nice stuff.
i find 20 and 30 ft are too short to get the benefit from the kinetics , still better than a strap but 50 is the shortest i would go.
Southeast Overland
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I use a 20'. A 30' gives more length stretch (no more percentage). The problem with going with a very long rope is it takes up a bunch of room in your recovery bag - but you do get more length stretch.
I spliced up a 30' today for a customer.
I spliced up a 30' today for a customer.
Southeast Overland
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Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
I found that in our kind of trails / oof road, we usually don't have that much space .. that's why I didn't buy it longer ..
