....snip.....So I add some fuel cans to the front to off set the weight of the tire. ......
On the fuel cans..... are those Giant Quik Fist straps? Thanks!
best or ideal spot to mount the spare tire on m416 trailer
- Thread starter 1ststatecruiser
- Start date
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.
On the fuel cans..... are those Giant Quik Fist straps? Thanks!
Yes they are the quickfist clamps.
Cheers
Cheers
- Thread starter
- #23
got my 285s today , i might try this ...
ill update once i have my tires swaped, i only need three and have 5 of the 285s if anybody needs only 2 pm me tire size 285/75/16 procomps x.
ill update once i have my tires swaped, i only need three and have 5 of the 285s if anybody needs only 2 pm me tire size 285/75/16 procomps x.
My 1st post here and pictars of my spare tire mount...
along the lines of the OP's original intent of keeping the rig self contained and tow capable... with any rig.
and in my goal... of keeping add-on weight as low as possible.
and so.... I'm sticking with originality of the military tires.
7.00 X 16's... with future replacements likely to be 7.50 X 16's
This is on my '53 Strick M100... but this method could be utilized with most of the WWII typical trailers and the "A" frame type drawbars
click thumbnails for larger pics.
^ was in progress... so some details are missng in these pics.
The rear is also getting a spare tire mount out back.
At that point... I will be making a basket type, bolt on holder, that can hold fuel/water cans and if goes as planned...
I'll be able to swap that basket/tire to either the front or rear tire mount(s).
along the lines of the OP's original intent of keeping the rig self contained and tow capable... with any rig.
and in my goal... of keeping add-on weight as low as possible.
and so.... I'm sticking with originality of the military tires.
7.00 X 16's... with future replacements likely to be 7.50 X 16's
This is on my '53 Strick M100... but this method could be utilized with most of the WWII typical trailers and the "A" frame type drawbars
click thumbnails for larger pics.
^ was in progress... so some details are missng in these pics.
The rear is also getting a spare tire mount out back.
At that point... I will be making a basket type, bolt on holder, that can hold fuel/water cans and if goes as planned...
I'll be able to swap that basket/tire to either the front or rear tire mount(s).
Last edited:
- Thread starter
- #25
i thought it would be possible to mount the 285s on the front of the trailer sio i came up with idea of using an fj40 tube swingout tire carrier it will also save my tailgate. heres the mock up pic, ill post pics when its done.
it will be on a left side of the trailer but i will balance it with some gas cans on the right.
it will be on a left side of the trailer but i will balance it with some gas cans on the right.
- Thread starter
- #26
so the fj40 swingout tire carrier came in (thanks davegonz)did a mock up again and here it is , looks like its gonna work. will need a mounting plate welded on it.
Living in the Past
SILVER Star
I too like the weight centered. While the gas cans will help to balance what happened once to use the gas.
Because I plan keeping my M416 basically stock I still like the idea of keeping it underneath so it's out of the way for loading and unloading. Plus I want to keep the weight towards the front for running empty. Thinking of trimming the the 60 series spare tire carrier so it will fit between the frame rails and installing just behind front spring perch. Then spacing it up as high as I can and operate the winch. The plan is to have just in front of the axle and a little higher than the axle. But this is with a stock M416 wheel and tire. Doesn't make sense for me to match the wheel to the tow vehicle since I use more than one with different wheel pattern. Plus I hate the idea of giving up the hand brake.
just sharing...
primary reasons for my choices...
1. ...load balance, (as was mentioned)
I prefer my tongue weight to be a little heavier, when light or unladen
as that helps the trailer track better when light or empty.
2. ...maneuverability and protection
My spare tire is mounted, centered over the drawbars,
doubles as a deflector/bumper when the trailer is jacked to 90* and a little beyond.
Helps keep the side of my junk dent free, as I prefer
Should be obvious that my M100's tongue needed to be lengthened... in order to accomplish my goal.
as well a proper rear bumper that offords side protection.
^ this was during mock up... but didn't have any other pictars in a 90*, that shows the final product.
But it can be easily seen in the last pictar, that the spare acts as the 90*+ stop, up against the bumper's side protection hoop...
without anything else making contact, I might add.
And the tire will deflect/absorb some (dependant on PSI)... so making contact at 90* is not a worry...
for most usual duties.
this was the final positioning of the forward ST mount.
and it serves, as was intended
primary reasons for my choices...
1. ...load balance, (as was mentioned)
I prefer my tongue weight to be a little heavier, when light or unladen
as that helps the trailer track better when light or empty.
2. ...maneuverability and protection
My spare tire is mounted, centered over the drawbars,
doubles as a deflector/bumper when the trailer is jacked to 90* and a little beyond.
Helps keep the side of my junk dent free, as I prefer
Should be obvious that my M100's tongue needed to be lengthened... in order to accomplish my goal.
as well a proper rear bumper that offords side protection.
^ this was during mock up... but didn't have any other pictars in a 90*, that shows the final product.
But it can be easily seen in the last pictar, that the spare acts as the 90*+ stop, up against the bumper's side protection hoop...
without anything else making contact, I might add.
And the tire will deflect/absorb some (dependant on PSI)... so making contact at 90* is not a worry...
for most usual duties.
and it serves, as was intended
Last edited:
- Thread starter
- #30
so heres what i came up with
1) 1/2" thick bolted steel plate will be welded /area will be reinforced.
2) tube of the swingout will be lengthened to bring the tire dead center.
3) bolt pattern will be modified to fit my wheels lug pattern.
what do you think guys.
1) 1/2" thick bolted steel plate will be welded /area will be reinforced.
2) tube of the swingout will be lengthened to bring the tire dead center.
3) bolt pattern will be modified to fit my wheels lug pattern.
what do you think guys.
You might want to add some bracing when you extend it. Maybe:
1) top to bottom just to the right of the two hinges
2) lower left to upper right
The less flex, the longer it will stay together. What is the OEM inner diameter? Will you use some tube with that outer diameter to sleeve the joint?
1) top to bottom just to the right of the two hinges
2) lower left to upper right
The less flex, the longer it will stay together. What is the OEM inner diameter? Will you use some tube with that outer diameter to sleeve the joint?
Living in the Past
SILVER Star
Besides just bracing I would use the rubber cushion the factory used. The hook on the end was designed to the carrier into the cushion so it could help support the weight. You extend the tubes and mount the tire on the end you given it a bunch of extra leverage.
- Thread starter
- #33
i will suggest the bracing to the welder, thanks for pionting it out.
the inner diameter is 1'' 1/8 , tube will be used . i will suggest to sleeve the joints , thanks again.
- Thread starter
- #34
all the oem parts will be used , thanks.
IMO, if I were to install a tire gate at the rear...
it would be constructed as a ladder style gate with two hinge points and two latch points, both upper and lower...
'cause I hate a spare tire mount that vibrates or moves while rolling 'da trail or 'da street.
it would be constructed as a ladder style gate with two hinge points and two latch points, both upper and lower...
'cause I hate a spare tire mount that vibrates or moves while rolling 'da trail or 'da street.
While certainly not the best or most ideal spot to mount the spare I used a 4Runner tire winch. Still running matching 295 Nitto's the spare hang down more than if I were to use a 285 or 255.
A
A
This is true, the tire hangs lower than the axle. The intention behind this was the trailer serves as a base camp to begin with and will not be following the tow rig everywhere. Since a majority of my travel is from state park to state park with the occasional hotel stop for clothes washing. And like anything else, if it becomes a problem I'll move it.
A
A
I have a 1/4 ton post WWll Bantam, it had 6.00x16 military tires on it when I got it and it had this bracket on it to hold the spare tire. no idea if it is a bracket that was available from Bantam or something the PO pieced together. I have since changed to 7.00x16 military tires and the spare fits nicely in the same spot. the upright rod mounts to the front panel of the trailer and the bottom is secured to the bottom angle piece of the trailer.
home brew... Bantam never made a spare tire mount for these 1/4 T trailers... nor did any other mfg. of the WWII military trailers.
^ that I'm aware
would bring deh suck if ya wanna put a lid on 'er.
