anyone ever try the 2.5 lift kit from skyjacker?

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You said it, "REQUIRES" a longer shock. No, it does not require a longer shock. A longer shock may be better. It may give more travel. It is not required and there are many on the boards who run or who have ran with the stock length shocks and lift springs.

OME is more than happy to allow one to run with no castor correction. The ome system is not sold as a kit from arb as far as I know. It is a bunch of parts from which one may choose. That is how it is listed in their catalog. They have no actual kit listed in their catalog/pricelist.

Someone who buys skyjacker springs may choose maf drop brackets or castor plates or bushings just as someone who decides ome is the route to go.

I don't know anything about rancho products.

To properly do a 2.5" lift, you need to run longer shocks and caster correction. You can argue until your blue in the face that it isn't necessary, but in my book, modifications should be done properly and safely, so those items are necessary.

Your argument that OME doesn't list the parts as a kit and separately is a red herring. Lets look at a few other things you buy for your vehicle that are done together, even though the parts aren't sold together:

1) Tires. When people buy new tires, they also get new valve stems and have them balanced. Sure you can put them on without doing so (and I'm guessing you do), but I would consider the stems and balancing necessary.

2) When you change your oil, the parts place doesn't sell filters packaged with the oil. Most get the filters because they are a necessary part as part of an oil change. Sure you could choose to skip the filter and let it go into bypass, but that doesn't make it a good idea.


There is a right and a wrong way do do things. Using old shocks that are to short and don't have adequate dampening puts you, your passengers, and those on the road around you in danger. To me, that clearly removes it from the optional list.
 
To properly do a 2.5" lift, you need to run longer shocks and caster correction. You can argue until your blue in the face that it isn't necessary, but in my book, modifications should be done properly and safely, so those items are necessary.

Your argument that OME doesn't list the parts as a kit and separately is a red herring. Lets look at a few other things you buy for your vehicle that are done together, even though the parts aren't sold together:

1) Tires. When people buy new tires, they also get new valve stems and have them balanced. Sure you can put them on without doing so (and I'm guessing you do), but I would consider the stems and balancing necessary.

2) When you change your oil, the parts place doesn't sell filters packaged with the oil. Most get the filters because they are a necessary part as part of an oil change. Sure you could choose to skip the filter and let it go into bypass, but that doesn't make it a good idea.


There is a right and a wrong way do do things. Using old shocks that are to short and don't have adequate dampening puts you, your passengers, and those on the road around you in danger. To me, that clearly removes it from the optional list.

Your definition of necessary is different than mine and many others on this board.
 
cary, your devoted to OME and i can understand that, but what makes you think Skyjacker is garbage? And if it bothers you enough, Rancho sells a pair of shocks that work perfect with the kit for less than 100 bucks. Either way i get the lift kit that i need without breaking the bank. My skyjacker kit has been working great and i go wheeling about every other weekend. It makes no sense in paying more money for the 2.5 OME when the skyjacker's 2.5 is way more affordable. Oh and btw why arent you running an OME on your LC?
 
That's why 90% of 80 owners have them.
I'd imagine that's because there really are no other kits that compete with it for the most part. Aside from Frankie's, which is a little bit more.
edit: wow, who revived this.
 
cary, your devoted to OME and i can understand that, but what makes you think Skyjacker is garbage? And if it bothers you enough, Rancho sells a pair of shocks that work perfect with the kit for less than 100 bucks. Either way i get the lift kit that i need without breaking the bank. My skyjacker kit has been working great and i go wheeling about every other weekend. It makes no sense in paying more money for the 2.5 OME when the skyjacker's 2.5 is way more affordable. Oh and btw why arent you running an OME on your LC?

I believe that I was quite clear on why I am not a fan of skyjacker. As far as what I am running on my 80, I'm guessing since I drove it last, someone stole the OME springs off of it.
 
Maybe it's just me but I've felt that the kits I've purchased from OME or vendors that specialize in LC's are very thorough, whether I'm modifying or just maintaining my Cruisers. Buying just lifted springs without shocks or caster correction would be like buying a knuckle rebuild kit without the trunnion bearings. Sure you can get away with it for now because of a 'tight' budget, but it will catch up to you eventually if you keep taking shortcuts.
 
I believe that I was quite clear on why I am not a fan of skyjacker.

There are only two reasons I saw in the previous posts. Is there something else else because those are poor reasons.

1. They made a crappy suspension kit for an old nissan.
2. They may or may not be iso certified.
3. You also state they are made by a maginal manufacturer.

Out of those three reasons you do not know for sure that the manufacturer is not iso certified and you do not know who the manufacturer is. The springs are made in the USA according to skyjacker.

So it seems you base your entire opinion about the skyjacker 1991-1997 landcruiser coil springs on a poor suspension kit for a nissan. Why do you not listen to the few people who run skyjacker springs on this forum? I haven't heard any complaints from any of them.

You are as bad as the people who bad mouth frankie and his springs.
 
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ok, can all of the skyjacker bashers get out of here and let's hear from any more skyjacker owners?

i have no clue if skyjacker makes a good 80 spring and i'd like to hear from people who have skyjackers on an 80, not from ome sheep.

the 80 i have has ome's and they look like crap (no coating left and extremely rusty...much more so than the suspension), i hate the stink bug look, and i've had skyjackers in the past (on two 40s) and loved them. i'd like to know if they're worth giving a chance on my 80. that's the point of this forum.

i don't want to hear a bunch of whiny folks that should be in chat bash them when they know nothing about how they perform on this vehicle.
 
I have had OME 2.5 for a year and a half. I have probablly wheeled them 15 times. I feel the land cruiser lurch creeping back into the vehicle.
The brand loyality here is impressive, to the point of lack of objectivity. I would also be interested in hearing from people that are running different shock and spring combos.
As a relative noob still, I rely on the info I find here to help me make decisions. When I was looking for a lift everyone told me OME, and I blindly followed. There must be other options. If OME springs lurch after a couple years and need to be replaced why not try something else that is cheaper and less painfull to the pocket to replace?
 
I'm trying to stay out of this.... but I'll chime in since i have alot of real-world experience.... 3 OME spring sets in the last 3 years and tomorrow I'm getting installed another brand springs from another Alabamian that will remain nameless.

I hated my OME 2.5 medium springs, I hated my OME 2.5 heavy springs, I hated my OME J springs.... all that said.... "Nothing is right or wrong, only thinking makes it so".
I'm really excited to be getting this new set of springs since I've seen them in action and was amazed at how well they performed over my J's even though I was taller.

TO ME, OME ain't where it's at.... If you love them, then look in the for sale section next week when I get back form the Southern CruiserCrawl and you can buy my latest set with some sweet adjustable coil spacers.

I can honestly say that I thought OME was the "cats nuts" until I saw something better....
 
There are only two reasons I saw in the previous posts. Is there something else else because those are poor reasons.

1. They made a crappy suspension kit for an old nissan.
2. They may or may not be iso certified.
3. You also state they are made by a maginal manufacturer.

Out of those three reasons you do not know for sure that the manufacturer is not iso certified and you do not know who the manufacturer is. The springs are made in the USA according to skyjacker.

So it seems you base your entire opinion about the skyjacker 1991-1997 landcruiser coil springs on a poor suspension kit for a nissan. Why do you not listen to the few people who run skyjacker springs on this forum? I haven't heard any complaints from any of them.

You are as bad as the people who bad mouth frankie and his springs.

You have now mistated what I said and what the discussion was about. You are awfully hung up on this, did you get your feelings hurt because you wanted the OME springs and saved a few bucks by getting the skyjackers?

There are two points to my comments:

1) Why go with the Skyjacker springs to save a small amount of money, when you can get a known quantity, with known quality, for very little more.

2) Doing just 2.5" springs without shocks and caster correction is doing a half assed job, and making potentially unsafe modifications.
 
NO MORE OME +/- comments

Im also relatively new and am planning a lift in the near future.

I have to agree with Nuclear and CJ...We all understand that OME is a LC specific suspension kit and there is many supporters and many h8rs of it...and um guessing it has alot to do with terrain your running in and environmental conditions your vehicle is subjected too.
I know of alot of folks around these parts (S. TN) that run Skyjacker lifts, not necessarily on 80's but on off-road vehicles in general and havent heard many folks complaining, for instance, my neighbor has a '06 FJ Cruiser and installed the 3" Skyjacker lift himself (including adjustable front struts) with 33" BFG AT and swears the ride is 2-3x better than stock.

I think we would all like to hear from the folks that run something OTHER than OME and how they feel about them.
 
You have now mistated what I said and what the discussion was about. You are awfully hung up on this, did you get your feelings hurt because you wanted the OME springs and saved a few bucks by getting the skyjackers?

There are two points to my comments:

1) Why go with the Skyjacker springs to save a small amount of money, when you can get a known quantity, with known quality, for very little more.

2) Doing just 2.5" springs without shocks and caster correction is doing a half assed job, and making potentially unsafe modifications.

I do not understand why you are hung up. You really should just start a new thread titled, "Why I love OME and everything else is crap because I said so."

Your points are ridiculous. Why don't you come back when someone complains about their skyjacker springs and post about it. Until then you are guessing their springs are worse, equal to or better than the OME springs.

1. Skyjacker springs saved me about 30% over OME. Skyjacker springs are made in the USA and I posted the specs previous in the thread.

It cost $246 to me for the skyjacker 4 coils. OME would have cost $293.56 from MAF plus(since they do not add shipping until after the order has shipped I would estimate around $25. That is a $82 savings on the springs from buying the skyjcker.
Considering their are people on this site who are dissatisfied with their OME springs and NONE who are dissatisfied with skyjacker says something. They are a known quantity. I posted the specs for the skyjacker springs above. They are made in the USA.

2. Why are you so hung up on castor and new springs? Do a search for people with OME springs who have run without castor bushings, plates, drop brackets or arms. Do a search for people who run OME on the stock springs or even stock length springs. It is possible. It has been done. The extra parts are not necessary, they are optional. If someone wished to buy skyjacker springs then buy OME bushings or MAF brackets, castor bushings or plates there is nothing to stop them.
 
I do not understand why you are hung up. You really should just start a new thread titled, "Why I love OME and everything else is crap because I said so."

Your points are ridiculous. Why don't you come back when someone complains about their skyjacker springs and post about it. Until then you are guessing their springs are worse, equal to or better than the OME springs.

1. Skyjacker springs saved me about 30% over OME. Skyjacker springs are made in the USA and I posted the specs previous in the thread.

It cost $246 to me for the skyjacker 4 coils. OME would have cost $293.56 from MAF plus(since they do not add shipping until after the order has shipped I would estimate around $25. That is a $82 savings on the springs from buying the skyjcker.
Considering their are people on this site who are dissatisfied with their OME springs and NONE who are dissatisfied with skyjacker says something. They are a known quantity. I posted the specs for the skyjacker springs above. They are made in the USA.

2. Why are you so hung up on castor and new springs? Do a search for people with OME springs who have run without castor bushings, plates, drop brackets or arms. Do a search for people who run OME on the stock springs or even stock length springs. It is possible. It has been done. The extra parts are not necessary, they are optional. If someone wished to buy skyjacker springs then buy OME bushings or MAF brackets, castor bushings or plates there is nothing to stop them.

Give it a break already, well over two years ago someone asked if there were comments about Skyjacker, Cary provided them. Now, two plus years later, you have an axe to grind because you disagree. You are the one that should start a new thread, as the original poster has probably made up his mind long ago. Quit bashing a guy for giving his opinion. You are the one that can't seem to let it go.
 
Give it a break already, well over two years ago someone asked if there were comments about Skyjacker, Cary provided them. Now, two plus years later, you have an axe to grind because you disagree. You are the one that should start a new thread, as the original poster has probably made up his mind long ago. Quit bashing a guy for giving his opinion. You are the one that can't seem to let it go.

The reason the thread started up is because of the search button. If you search skyjacker in the title only and in the 80's tech only three threads come up. I found misinformation that should be corrected in this thread. It has continued now that cary has awoke.

The facts are:

!. No one that we know about is unhappy with their lancruiser skyjacker coils.

2. The skyjacker coils are less expensive than OME.

3. We now know the specs for the skyjacker coils because I posted them.

4. It is not necessary to run castor bushings, plates, brackets or new shocks with any 2.5" spring lift.

5. If you want to purchase aftermarket castor bushings, plates brackets, or shocks feel to take your savings and apply them to those those items.

6. Cary does not know anything about the skyjacker landcruiser coils but feels it is his duty to post negatives about them. He really should get some first hand knowledge instead of guessing. I know the saying, "opinions are like elbows, everybody has them." However, most base their opinions on fact not a guess.
 
If you change caster that much that it is way out of factory specs and probably close to negative, I would state that it is necessary to address caster. Not doing so is foolish.

Correct, foolish. I went without castor correction during my 2.5" medium lift and honestly had no clue that it wasn't the lift making me wander all over the road, it was the incorrect castor! Even drove to a Texas event that way... scaring everyone else in the convoy, bobbin' and weavin'
 
4. It is not necessary to run castor bushings, plates, brackets or new shocks with any 2.5" spring lift.

FWIW I thought mine drove fine for several months with a 2.5" spring lift and no caster correction until a barely noticeable groove on the interstate nearly pulled me into the 18 wheeler passing me. What are you basing this on?
 
FWIW I thought mine drove fine for several months with a 2.5" spring lift and no caster correction until a barely noticeable groove on the interstate nearly pulled me into the 18 wheeler passing me. What are you basing this on?

You proved my point. The truck will run and drive w/o castor correction. CASTOR CORRECTION IS NOT MANDATORY. IT IS NOT NEEDED TO DRIVE THE TRUCK. PERIOD.

As I have stated previously it may be better, however, IT IS NOT NEEDED.

People who are hung up on castor really need to start their own thread.
 

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