Any Ford 300 straight 6 engine swaps or advice out there?
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I don't know, but there was a thread about that motor in OT Vehicle Tech:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/other-vehicle-tech/129282-ford-300-cid-6-cylinder-engine.html
https://forum.ih8mud.com/other-vehicle-tech/129282-ford-300-cid-6-cylinder-engine.html
I'm not a Ford hater by any means but why bother when an EFI Chevy V8 is so much easier to work on and find parts for. Just my $0.02.
Very true, however, even being a born and raised Chevy guy, that Ford 300 is as or more bullet proof than an F motor, and though not as easy to service or get parts for as a Chev V-8, still much easier than the F motors.
I'd like to hear more about this. I have a 300 sitting in an old Bronco...
I have heard here on MUD that the ford 300 will tear apart the drivetrain.
Crazy torque from those engines.
Crazy torque from those engines.
Well now I'm intrigued. Keep it going. I have a '62 frame that I need some kind of direction for.
I would be very curious about more detail on this!!!
What is the factory torque rating on the 300 compared to a mild chevy small block? I am even more of a Ford guy than a Chevy guy but I am a doubter on this and at the same time would like to see that it is true.
How about 283 ft-lbs @ 1600 rpm in the days pre-emissions!!! 
Ford 300 Inline 6
Thats a lot of bloody grunt!
Ford 300 Inline 6
Thats a lot of bloody grunt!
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My thoughts that started this thread are as follows:
I am not trying to build a maximum articulating, rock crawling beast, just thinking about the parts expense issues for my fj60 with 168,000 and one bad cylinder and the 3 manifold jobs that I have had to do. I just use my fj60 like it was intended to be used: on roads, back roads, off roads but not in a way or with an engine that will tear up my vehicle! And to date, I have "kept it Toyota" but that is expensive!
Since Toyota obviously used some Chevy/Ford in line 6 engine ideas for their F engines, and since the Chevy/Ford inline 6 engines/parts are plentiful, and since both Chevy/Ford inline 6s have good performance records, why not use the engine(s) that Toyota copied? I know I can get all the performance that I want for my use out of a Chevy or Ford inline 6. I would like more info on the earlier posts talking about the Ford 6 being more difficult to work on than a chevy v8. As far as the chevy/ford issue, I have no beef either way, just want to do what would be best for my fj60 and me today! I have heard that some Canadian oil field services bought Fords remaing stock of 300 6,s, and a crate Chevy 292 HD made in Mexico is available at the Chevy dealers. How about bellhousings, etc.
Which 6 would be easier to use. All I know is what I have heard and that is that the Ford 300 6 runs like it thinks it is a diesel and UPS used a ton of them.
I am not trying to build a maximum articulating, rock crawling beast, just thinking about the parts expense issues for my fj60 with 168,000 and one bad cylinder and the 3 manifold jobs that I have had to do. I just use my fj60 like it was intended to be used: on roads, back roads, off roads but not in a way or with an engine that will tear up my vehicle! And to date, I have "kept it Toyota" but that is expensive!
Since Toyota obviously used some Chevy/Ford in line 6 engine ideas for their F engines, and since the Chevy/Ford inline 6 engines/parts are plentiful, and since both Chevy/Ford inline 6s have good performance records, why not use the engine(s) that Toyota copied? I know I can get all the performance that I want for my use out of a Chevy or Ford inline 6. I would like more info on the earlier posts talking about the Ford 6 being more difficult to work on than a chevy v8. As far as the chevy/ford issue, I have no beef either way, just want to do what would be best for my fj60 and me today! I have heard that some Canadian oil field services bought Fords remaing stock of 300 6,s, and a crate Chevy 292 HD made in Mexico is available at the Chevy dealers. How about bellhousings, etc.
Which 6 would be easier to use. All I know is what I have heard and that is that the Ford 300 6 runs like it thinks it is a diesel and UPS used a ton of them.
How about 283 ft-lbs @ 1600 rpm in the days pre-emissions!!!
Ford 300 Inline 6
Thats a lot of bloody grunt!
That seems like a nice amount of torque to me. I am looking into a 4.8L vortec swap and that motor has 285 @ 4000 rpm's and I have not heard a thing about them tearing up the drivelines of the 60/62's that they have gone into.
But maybe you know something I don't. I would love to hear more info before I go ahead with my swap.
A Ford 300 is long, longer then a F2, GM or AMC 258. I think fitment would be an issue. Taking out an F2 and putting in a 300 doesn't make any sense to me. What would you gain? A toyota is a toyata is a toyota, it's why we drive them.
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From the sounds of it a bunch of torque maybe some HP and much easier parts to find. I can grab some quick measurments tomorrow of how long the 300 is. Any other measurments people need?
Lurker chimes in
This is an interesting swap. I recently helped install an EFI 300 (4.9l) in a mid 70's f100 4x4 that originally came with an FE. My friend is very impressed with the drive ability and power. He is most impressed with the mileage, those are pretty heavy trucks with bad aerodynamics, he says he gets 18-20mpg on a regular basis.
We found his motor and another up at a Pacific Recycling yard for approximately $0.20/pound. They had been in some sort of delivery van where the old owners retained the service box. The motor came with all electronics and ran, so he installed it with no rebuild.
This is an interesting swap. I recently helped install an EFI 300 (4.9l) in a mid 70's f100 4x4 that originally came with an FE. My friend is very impressed with the drive ability and power. He is most impressed with the mileage, those are pretty heavy trucks with bad aerodynamics, he says he gets 18-20mpg on a regular basis.
We found his motor and another up at a Pacific Recycling yard for approximately $0.20/pound. They had been in some sort of delivery van where the old owners retained the service box. The motor came with all electronics and ran, so he installed it with no rebuild.
I know nothing about them, just googled it. If it would fit, I would love to see someone do it and report back though. Somehow replacing and L6 with and L6 just seems right.
How about 283 ft-lbs @ 1600 rpm in the days pre-emissions!!!
Ford 300 Inline 6
Thats a lot of bloody grunt!
Does sound good!!
inkpot
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Howdy! So why not just use the Chevy 292? It probably has similar torque and HP ratings as the Ford 300. The 292 used to be called the "Dump Truck Six" cause that's where you would find them. You let out the clutch first, then you push the skinny pedal as needed. Both are very long stroke engines, and very tall. Check your oil pan clearances. Just use the 292 and it will fit up to all of the Chevy small block conversion parts, just like the smaller Chevy 6 bangers. Bolt on an NV 4500, and just GOOOOOOOO!
John
John
From the specs here: enginespecs the 3FE and possibly the 3F and 2F are as/more powerful than a 292.
We can argue the merits of an I6 versus a small block v8 for eternity. It comes down to personal taste. Some folks just like an I6 engine for offroad vehicles. 292 versus 300? As I recall, he 292 has a longer stroke and hits its torque peak at around 1800 RPM. The 300 is square and is a higher rever. If I am wrong I appologize and will immediately go outside and suck on my 2F tailpipe for awhile. Both would require moving the radiator assembly forward among other mods.
I have been thinking about a 300 conversion as well. So, I too, would enjoy reading the experiences of other I6 fans. I believe the 300 was a little better on fuel than the 292 bit could be wrong again.
the later Toyota I6s had torque peaks considerably higher up the RPM range.
I have been thinking about a 300 conversion as well. So, I too, would enjoy reading the experiences of other I6 fans. I believe the 300 was a little better on fuel than the 292 bit could be wrong again.
the later Toyota I6s had torque peaks considerably higher up the RPM range.
