Another timing belt question... (1 Viewer)

[1gr8FoSemty]

Can't seem to find this.
I have a 2002 LX. 325k miles. Not sure on the last timing belt change.
I am looking at Amazon kits. Which one do I get. Too many choices. Aisin water pump with mitsuboshi or gates belt is the most common.
I don't want to just buy a bunch of extra parts just to throw on unless needed.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

Replace everything, particularly if you don’t know which items were replaced previously. You don’t want to do this more than once because you didn’t replace a crank seal or idler pulley the first time around...
Amazon product ASIN B00NAK9EE0

 

[2001LC]

Aisin/mitsuboshi

 

[shoboat90]

This is the one I just installed in my 01 LC....my mechanic was very impressed with the kit.

Amazon product ASIN B008EEYWKI

 

[shoboat90]

My bad...doesn't look like I can post the amazon link. Anyhow, it's the Aisin TKT-021 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump.

 

[gregnash]

My bad...doesn't look like I can post the amazon link. Anyhow, it's the Aisin TKT-021 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump.

Link posted?! Or at least it works for me.

 

[KFunk740]

Yes, thats a good kit that shoboat posted, the TKT-021. I would also add crank seal, 2 cam seals, fan bracket, serpentine belt tensioner, serpentine belt idler pulley, and serpentine belt (If you don't know history of serpentine belt stuff). The serpentine belt and idler pulley can be replaced anytime quickly and easily, but not the tensioner though. Think about an alternator if you really want to be set, or just worry about that when the time comes.

 

[1gr8FoSemty]

Replace everything, particularly if you don’t know which items were replaced previously. You don’t want to do this more than once because you didn’t replace a crank seal or idler pulley the first time around...
Amazon product ASIN B00NAK9EE0

Gotcha. Is the tensioner important? It's not in this kit.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

Gotcha. Is the tensioner important? It's not in this kit.

Yes. You can buy the tensioner separate for pretty cheap. That kit I posted above from Evergreen includes everything else that you’ll need, including Aisin water pump and gasket, Mitsuboshi t-belt, cam and crank seals, idler pulleys, t-stat and o-ring, etc. It’s a much more complete kit than the TKT-021 kit.

 

[1gr8FoSemty]

Yes. You can buy the tensioner separate for pretty cheap. That kit I posted above from Evergreen includes everything else that you’ll need, including Aisin water pump and gasket, Mitsuboshi t-belt, cam and crank seals, idler pulleys, t-stat and o-ring, etc. It’s a much more complete kit than the TKT-021 kit.

Ok. Didn't realize it came with thermostat and o-ring. Did you replace fan bracket and serpentine belt pulleys and such at the same time. I didn't plan on doing that, but am now considering.

 

[JunkCrzr89]

Ok. Didn't realize it came with thermostat and o-ring. Did you replace fan bracket and serpentine belt pulleys and such at the same time. I didn't plan on doing that, but am now considering.

I did/am doing both. Those items have to come off anyways to do t-belt service, so might as well put on new. I also replaced radiator, all radiator/heater/coolant hoses, and heater Ts at the same time. Figure if I’m refreshing water pump and t-stat while doing t-belt, then might as well replace the other components of a 20 year-old cooling system.

 

[1gr8FoSemty]

I did/am doing both. Those items have to come off anyways to do t-belt service, so might as well put on new. I also replaced radiator, all radiator/heater/coolant hoses, and heater Ts at the same time. Figure if I’m refreshing water pump and t-stat while doing t-belt, then might as well replace the other components of a 20 year-old cooling system.

Good points. I am trying to baseline this vehicle as well preparing for a long trip. So, the kit you suggest plus the tensioner plus the fan bracket plus serpentine belt and Serpentine belt tensioner and pulley, upper and lower radiator hoses and heater t's. Does that sound like a complete parts list?

 

[JunkCrzr89]

Good points. I am trying to baseline this vehicle as well preparing for a long trip. So, the kit you suggest plus the tensioner plus the fan bracket plus serpentine belt and Serpentine belt tensioner and pulley, upper and lower radiator hoses and heater t's. Does that sound like a complete parts list?

Yep, sounds good to me. Only other things I would consider adding are the hoses that connect to the heater Ts. WitsEnd has a good kit that has those hoses, heater Ts, and new clamps.

 

[katit]

That other kit has good belt and pump, other parts quality questionable. Just saying...

 

[snowglobe]

NEW TOYOTA LEXUS FACTORY OEM 23 PCS TIMING BELT KIT W/ GENUINE TOYOTA WATER PUMP | eBay

NEW COMPLETE OEM TIMING BELT KIT WITH ORIGINAL TOYOTA WATER PUMP. LEXUS GS430. LEXUS GS400. LEXUS LS400. LEXUS LS430. LEXUS SC400. LEXUS LX470. LEXUS GX470.

www.ebay.com

This Kit comes with a lot, all Toyota parts except for belts (MITSUBOSHI) and idler pulleys (Koyo). I don’t know why use aftermarket belts when the genuine belts seem comparable in price, but those idler pulleys from T are $$$.

ITEM​	PART​	MANUFACTURER​	PART NUMBER​	QTY​
1​	TIMING BELT​	MITSUBOSHI​	TB298M​	1​
2​	IDLER#1​	KOYO​	13505-0F010​	1​
3​	IDLER#2​	KOYO​	13503-0F010​	1​
4​	HYDRAULIC TENSIONER​	TOYOTA​	13540-50030​	1​
5​	FRONT CAM SEALS​	TOYOTA​	90311-71002​	2​
6​	FRONT CRANK SEAL​	TOYOTA​	90311-A0001​	1​
7​	WATER PUMP​	TOYOTA​	16100-59275-83​	1​
8​	ORINGS & BOLTS​	TOYOTA​	​	7​
9​	WATER PUMP GASKET​	TOYOTA​	16271-0F010​	1​
10​	THERMOSTAT​	TOYOTA​	90916-03100​	1​
11​	THERMOSTAT GASKET​	TOYOTA​	16346-50010​	1​
12​	DRIVE BELT​	MITSUBOSHI​	6PK-2245​	1​
​	​	​	TOTAL PIECES​	19​

Again regarding the belts, the serpentine belt part number from T changes after 2004. I don’t know what the difference is, which makes me wonder about which the after market parts correspond to.

According to the mcgeorge Toyota website, the timing belt 90916-02586 is for up to 2004

Serpentine Belt - Toyota (90916-02586) | Toyota Parts

and 13568-09070 is for later

13568-09070 - Engine Timing Belt 1998-2009 Toyota | Ourisman Toyota Parts

Save Money On Your Engine Timing Belt (1356809070) For Your 1998-2009 Toyota When You Shop With Ourisman Toyota Parts!

toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com

 

[snowglobe]

Odd that mcgeorge also lists another timing belt part number 90916-02585 as compatible

90916-02585 - Serpentine Belt 2004-2009 Toyota | Ourisman Toyota Parts

Save Money On Your Serpentine Belt (9091602585) For Your 2004-2009 Toyota When You Shop With Ourisman Toyota Parts!

toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com

 

[snowglobe]

One more thing ... the kit I listed is not listed as compatible with your 2002 lx, but is for my 2006.
That vendor’s kit for 2002 is more expensive because he includes Toyota idler pulleys instead of Koyo

90916-02585 - Serpentine Belt 2004-2009 Toyota | Ourisman Toyota Parts

Save Money On Your Serpentine Belt (9091602585) For Your 2004-2009 Toyota When You Shop With Ourisman Toyota Parts!

toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com

... although it looks like he has some alternative kits with a few aftermarket parts for less

 

[97 AZ LC]

Odd that mcgeorge also lists another timing belt part number 90916-02585 as compatible

90916-02585 - Serpentine Belt 2004-2009 Toyota | Ourisman Toyota Parts

Save Money On Your Serpentine Belt (9091602585) For Your 2004-2009 Toyota When You Shop With Ourisman Toyota Parts!

toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com

Your link is to a serp belt, not a timing belt.

 

[97 AZ LC]

This Kit comes with a lot, all Toyota parts except for belts (MITSUBOSHI) and idler pulleys (Koyo). I don’t know why use aftermarket belts when the genuine belts seem comparable in price, but those idler pulleys from T are $$$.

Mitsuboshi and Koyo are both OEM, not aftermarket.

 

[nissanh]

Try partsouq.com. enter your vin and choose parts based on the diagram. parts coming from Dubai and is cheap even with fedex shipping and takes less than 5 days or less to arrive. I am buying timing belt components from them for a 4runner. Koyo tensioner is $ 22, mitsuboshi belt is $18 etc.