Aluminum Oil Filter Cap - durability (1 Viewer)

[bloc]

I have it. That is what sheered all the tabs off. It will not grip it now.

My next move would be to carefully start destroying it in a way that doesn’t damage the housing or the inner support tube.

A hole drilled on one of the flats would provide a solid place to get it moving with a rectangular flat end punch and hammer. If that didn’t work I’d start dismantling it with a cold chisel.

Obviously all of this assumes you have the new part on hand to replace it.

 

[CharlieS]

Why won't a strap wrench work?

 

[bloc]

Why won't a strap wrench work?

If the correct tool broke the tabs off I’m assuming the strap wrench won’t be capable of the torque value required to get it loose.

A chain wrench could probably get it done, but you’d need to find one large enough.

 

[Tecnos]

I tried the strap wrench and couldn't move it. I need more leverage than it can provide. I tried drilling it too, still couldn't get it to move.

Todays plan. I JB welded the drain bolt to the filter cap yesterday. After church I will see if that holds long enough to break it loose.

Next plan is to drill some screws into the slots for the filter removal tool.

After that, I am going to destroy it.

The guy who designed this and the last guy to do the oil change need their asses kicked. The truck is new to me. I needed a breaker bar to break the oil pan drain as well.

 

[RET2]

I tried the strap wrench and couldn't move it. I need more leverage than it can provide. I tried drilling it too, still couldn't get it to move.

Todays plan. I JB welded the drain bolt to the filter cap yesterday. After church I will see if that holds long enough to break it loose.

Next plan is to drill some screws into the slots for the filter removal tool.

After that, I am going to destroy it.

The guy who designed this and the last guy to do the oil change need their asses kicked. The truck is new to me. I needed a breaker bar to break the oil pan drain as well.

Sounds like someone switched the impact guns from wheels to filters/drains. Just kidding of course (?)

 

[CharlieS]

If you're willing to sacrifice your filter wrench, maybe you could jb weld that to the cap. More surface area...

 

[bloc]

The guy who designed this and the last guy to do the oil change need their asses kicked. The truck is new to me. I needed a breaker bar to break the oil pan drain as well.

100% the last guy to do work on it, 0% the designers.

Keep in mind how uncommon it would be to only put 18ft-lb force on a 4” diameter bolt (the filter cap.) Or the plastic-lined oil drain crush washer compressing forever causing the bolt to tighten much more slowly than usual. In both cases if a torque wrench is used, the problem doesn’t exist, even if the cap is plastic.

The front diff drain plug with a tiny 10mm internal hex and a huge copper gasket that bonds the plug to the case even with the published torque value.. 100% design.

If the world had more mechanics that gave a s*** these trucks wouldn’t have the “oil changes are horrible” reputation that they do.

 

[Tecnos]

JB Weld worked. Praise God! Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

A cartridge filter from the bottom of the engine is not a maintenance friendly design. Mercedes Benz has used cartridge filters for at least 40 years and all the cars that i am aware of are accessed from the top where you don't have to drain the filter first. In my opinion, this is a poor design. Just my opinion.

Everything is torqued to spec and not leaking. The filter cap is seriously rotated 1/3 of a turn less than what the previous person had done.

 

[bloc]

The filter cap is seriously rotated 1/3 of a turn less than what the previous person had done.

Yikes. Glad you got it sorted though!

 

[7000ft]

I resurrected NLScooby's 2019 You Tube video highlighting an oil change with the Jowett Performance Filter Housing. Thank you NLScooby!
Click: Oil Change with Jowett Performance Filter Housing - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil-change-with-jowett-performance-filter-housing.1129678/#post-12262360

 

[bloc]

I resurrected NLScooby's 2019 You Tube video highlighting an oil change with the Jowett Performance Filter Housing. Thank you NLScooby!
Click: Oil Change with Jowett Performance Filter Housing - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil-change-with-jowett-performance-filter-housing.1129678/#post-12262360

That’s a different part than is being discussed in most of this thread.

 

[7000ft]

That’s a different part than is being discussed in most of this thread.

This thread started here: Thread 'Aluminum Oil Filter Cap - durability' Aluminum Oil Filter Cap - durability - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/aluminum-oil-filter-cap-durability.411523/
It got off track as it frequently does.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Bringing back an older thread, but for those interested there is an aftermarket aluminum cap available that does not require the inner support tube swap:

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-917-016-Oil-Filter-Cap/dp/B0075MREHI/ref=asc_df_B0075MREHI?mcid=6c9abc21619a33d98fb2ce3b54625121&hvocijid=3997481683522767621-B0075MREHI-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3997481683522767621&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011999&hvtargid=pla-2281435177898&psc=1

I'm sure we all prefer 100% OEM where possible but throwing it out there as another quick fix for people having trouble with the stock plastic housing.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Bringing back an older thread, but for those interested there is an aftermarket aluminum cap available that does not require the inner support tube swap:

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-917-016-Oil-Filter-Cap/dp/B0075MREHI/ref=asc_df_B0075MREHI?mcid=6c9abc21619a33d98fb2ce3b54625121&hvocijid=3997481683522767621-B0075MREHI-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3997481683522767621&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011999&hvtargid=pla-2281435177898&psc=1

I'm sure we all prefer 100% OEM where possible but throwing it out there as another quick fix for people having trouble with the stock plastic housing.

Retracting this. I thought this was a nice easy fix (even if temporary), but it looks like I already have a slow drip developing after the install.

Avoid the Dorman. Stick with the OEM plastic or the Venza aluminum assembly with the support tube swap.

 

[Riaz]

Retracting this. I thought this was a nice easy fix (even if temporary), but it looks like I already have a slow drip developing after the install.

Avoid the Dorman. Stick with the OEM plastic or the Venza aluminum assembly with the support tube swap.

Retracting this. I thought this was a nice easy fix (even if temporary), but it looks like I already have a slow drip developing after the install.

Avoid the Dorman. Stick with the OEM plastic or the Venza aluminum assembly with the support tube swap.