Aluminum Oil Filter Cap - durability

[rscoleman]

The dealer did 5K and 10K maintenance as LC was under service contract for person that did 2 year lease. I bought it and for 15K change I did work. The filter was on entirely to tight. I had to use a breaker bar to get it free. The ear tabs broke that is what created hole in cap. This was not the only thing in my opinion that was over torqued. The Wheel Nuts required a breaker bar to free them as well. With 5 lug nuts no reason for that kind of torque to guarantee they stay on.

In some thread I read this and captured it these are values I used when changing my oil.
Oil pan drain plug: 30 ft/lb
Stock filter cap: 18 ft/lb
Filter cap drain plug: 9 ft/lb

Not sure what wheel nuts are supposed to be at but I did them like I do all my other cars and have done for years. I have 4 way lug wrench. I go to spin tight and then 1/8 more turn. I can remove any lug at this setting even with factory tool kit in case of flat tire.

Note if dealer is doing your oil change and they break a cap they pay for new one they do not I assume come and tell you they broke it and ask you to buy a new one. So what do service tech's care if they over tighten them.

 

[gaijin]

Not sure what wheel nuts are supposed to be at but I did them like I do all my other cars and have done for years. I have 4 way lug wrench. I go to spin tight and then 1/8 more turn. I can remove any lug at this setting even with factory tool kit in case of flat tire.

Lug nuts: 97 ft/lb

HTH

 

[luke27617]

I can't believe I'm hearing this happen on some fairly new lc'... My bro has the plastic one and it been there for the last 100k but no problems... Could it be that we might be doing something wrong when we remove this part... Are we saying toyota has a special tool just to remove this cap? The standard cap removal tools won't work???? Asking because I will be doing this job soon.

They over torque which causes the problem. I have used a tool that grabs by the two ears which broken off. Toyota is using the cap. As well when to tight it will not work well as it is a plastic cap and corners just get rounded. That is why I got the aluminum one from Venza and changed the middle part.

 

[Sysie]

G'Day ... thanks for accepting my join request I came across this discussion and am a little worried. I replaced my 2012 FJ cruiser Oil filter cap with a Aluminium one about 3000km ago but did not swop the inter preforated tube out. I noticed the replacement is a little shorter than the stock plastic one but did not know I need to swop them out.

Why do we need to swop it our for the longer one ?

I guess I should do that ASAP ?

Thanks!

 

[tominboise]

I am not @bjowett but I will say that the longer tube supports the filter from potential collapsing under pressure. Oil flows from outer to inner, so there is a chance that the media could collapse and allow oil to bypass the filter media.

 

[bjowett]

The Toyota alloy cap is usually equipped with a tube to support the 67mm high 3.5L oil filter cartridge. The FJC utilizes the 82mm high filter 4.0L filter cartridge. The tube, being 15 mm shy, may have provided enough support to prevent media collapse. With that said, folks would be surprised how often oil bypasses the filer through the bypass valve located at the base of the perforated tube.

 

[Sysie]

Thank you for the reply!. Seems that it is unlikely to have caused harm, but I will replace it with the original cap to be safe.

 

[LINUS]

Yes, you have the plastic unit. The aluminum piece is far more durable... and if you want to go a few steps beyond that, I offer a billet aluminum piece with six point socket and optional EZ drain. I suggest you perform an oil change or two and see what you think about the stock plastic piece.

Slightly tangent to topic, but @bjowett ’s cap is a major, major upgrade.

I should have posted a “walk-thru” -of how jacked up my plastic cap was because the last oil jockey (prior to me buying the Tundra) -who did it torqued it so hard, my metal socket from ebay is still “welded” to the plastic where I threw it under the bench. I gave it a couple courteous taps trying to break them apart, but was REAL glad I was holding a 1-use item to me.

And my filter was partly collapsed (no idea if this is norm, was a Purolater branded element) & was dark like it had seen a couple oil changes w/o a filter. (I think because the cap was so ham-fisted on, this prob was the case). IDK.

-Bottom line - I was damn happy to throw the stock cap & socket in the “forget about it corner”, with shiney new goods from Brian locked & loaded to install.

So never having to re-use the plastic aside to scavenge the tube for Brian’s unit made me feel like I ‘dodged a bullet’ bigtime - I bought his in anticipation I’ll have the Tundra as long as my 80 has been around (19yrs & counting).

So any 3UR owners (or ones planning to own longterm) -the cap is worth it.
In practicality, you change oil more than use a winch or any other gee-gaw mod you buy for a vehicle, save floormats or seat covers.

Just the opinion of this owner.

 

[tominboise]

+1 on Brian's filter housing. Mine works a treat and is a work of art, too boot.

 

[FerzLC]

@bjowett. Your site says you’re out of the filter housing. Any chance of you having more soon?

Thanks

 

[bjowett]

Thanks guys!

More caps should be available in roughly 6 weeks. I will be adding some cosmetic blems to sale list this coming week. The base cap in blems form will be roughly 1/2 the price of retail.

 

[phatairman]

@bjowett any news on another run of caps? Just looked at your website and they were out of stock. Thanks!

 

[bjowett]

Will be taking orders in one or two weeks.

 

[LoveHateToyota]

#Soon

 

[DecreedIt]

Will be taking orders in one or two weeks.

Add me to that list please.

 

[Fisher23]

I have one .. works perfect !
I also replaced the pan drain with the ez valve.

 

[paulunm]

As someone with a newly acquired 200, I've not yet changed the oil- I have two questions-

I assume the bjowett metal cap replaces the plastic or metal Venza cap as shown in the first post?

What's the best way to get the plastic cap off without breaking it? Oil filter tool?

 

[bloc]

As someone with a newly acquired 200, I've not yet changed the oil- I have two questions-

I assume the bjowett metal cap replaces the plastic or metal Venza cap as shown in the first post?

What's the best way to get the plastic cap off without breaking it? Oil filter tool?

This tool is widely available at parts stores and works well. It uses both the 14 (I think) sided nut and the slots fit over tabs on the sides of the filter cap

Just look for an oil filter tool for toyotas and look for the extra slots. Should work well.

 

[Cr Anders]

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[LoveHateToyota]

One more week #Soon