A New 80 v 100 thread

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Before you tell me to search for threads: I have searched for threads and most 80 v 100 have been dead for 10-11 years at this point. Most of the other threads were started when the 100 series was at its prime and you could buy one with in tip top shape any day of the week. Now that the 200 series has been around for a while and it is the latest a greatest I thought it couldn't hurt to rehash the 80 v 100 debate on level ground.

I have been heavily researching LCs over the past few months and thought I settled on the 100 at first until I looked into the 80s more. I remember one of my best friends growing up having an 80 and his mom having a 100. At the time I thought the 100 was one of the nicer cars I had ever been in but I also remember getting into whatever we wanted to in the 80 and the ride quality wasn't horrible.

For my purposes I need a car I can take to work most days (I'm going to keep my S2000 but it already has a sparco fixed back seat in it and is getting closer to being a permanent race car every year). I do need the LC to go for the occasional work related trip during the week but not travel cross country by any means. Maintenance is a big thing for me - I work on my own cars almost exclusively with the exception of alignment and body work and I would like to keep it that way. I've worked on Toyota straight sixes before (supra turbo) so the 80 engine shouldn't be too far from what I already know. If I can find a locked 80 in good shape I'll probably do that, but as of right now the f/r lockers aren't the biggest concern for me as much as finding a clean truck in good condition. I'll probably want to modify everything I can get my hands just like every other car or truck I've owned which makes the 80 appealing.

I am making a mistake choosing an 80? Or is it the way to go for what I need?
 
Depends on your need, the 100 is a better road car, the 80 is a more capable wheeler. Doesn't sound like you need the 80 capability?
 
If I were debating the 80 vs 100, I would actually be debating the 80 vs 200. For your uses, get a nice 200. It's like a 100 only newer with even more motor.
 
If you don't need the solid axle wheeling capability, you could expand your search to include the GX470, it's popularity is surging for a road truck/occasional wheeler, and some builds are getting pretty extensive, with the aftermarket support following along.

That being said, few vehicles ooze character like the 80 series.
 
Probably the worst the truck will go through is hunting streams for fly fishing on the weekends and occasionally Mississippi/Arkansas/Louisiana trails. Like the original post mentioned, that's not my biggest concern.

I really just need to know that if I get an 80 will it end up being a maintenance nightmare (20 year old truck + who knows what previous owner) and for that reason should I get a newer 100 series. Truth be told the 200 doesn't really entice me the way the others do. Maybe in time. I think we'll get my fiance a 200 in the next year - she loves them. See bright, shiny and new.

Ride quality doesn't concern me a whole lot - I'm currently daily driving the car I race on the weekends in SCCA so I've been getting beat to hell worse than any 80/100/200 owner could imagine for 3 years. The 80 will feel to me like a current 80 owner upgrading to a G class I can assure you. Maybe I'll prove myself wrong on that one but there's no way as of right now. My commute to work is currently 5 minutes so it isn't like I'm on the road every morning gritting my teeth.

I'll probably replace all of the speakers and head unit too so the infotainment system isn't going to crush my hopes and dreams.
 
I guess the real question isn't which is more desirable as much as which is more reliable and easier to work on.
 
I have both, a 94 (80 series) and a 04 (100 series) so perhaps I can add some insight. I've had the 80 for 10 years and the 100 for 3 months.

My wife likes the 100. It feels more agile, accelerates better, and even gets slightly better gas millage. Much easier as a daily driver. It also has more cigarette lighters (3 - power ports), a stock backup camera, heated side mirrors, seat heaters, and a auto dimming rear view mirror for the guy behind you with the high beams on. You can even program the car to lock the doors when you start driving and unlock when you put it in park.

I like the 80. Mine has slightly bigger tires, an updated radio of my choosing and extra things I have added over time. Things like better speakers, extra button for accessory lights, and drip rails that make it easy to add a roof rack. It also feels a bit more sturdy (and heavier) on the road. I feel like I can swap our parts easier, there's more people modifying their 80 than the 100 so there's more modification ideas and aftermarket support. There is less integration so changing one part (radio) doesn't effect other areas (like the touchscreen if it were a 100). It's more basic but the subsystems are more separate.

Newer means more fancy. Perhaps more to break later but I haven't owned it that long. There are things like a motorized steering wheel that moves into position every time you put the key in. "Chip" keys that cost a fortune compared to the $4 old school key. Touchscreens to control your climate, radio, and even navigation, which all still work well for my 13 year old car.

Older means more maintenance. How much? Not sure but in my 10 years with my 80, having put 180,000 miles on it, I have replaced the radiator, rebuilt the front axles - new bearings and grease, replaced the starter, replaced the oxygen sensor, replaced the brake booster, rebuilt the power steering unit, front brake rotors, repaired side mirrors, radio antenna, and also various interior trim pieces from sun damage or just lots of use. I'm not counting the expected repairs like tires, brake pads, fluids or filters; that's a given. For me, that's a short list for repairs in a decade of use and that is the entire repair log.

Another thing about older, or 80 series old. Some parts aren't being made anymore. Specifically, some interior trim pieces are either not available or only available in black. Expect more of this to happen so if you care about replacing some of the sun dried trim parts and the dealer doesn't make 'em anymore, expect things to get expensive. Yes, I life in Arizona.

Sometimes details provide the best picture and I hope I have given insight. In short, I would be happy with either. I am happier as I get to have both.

Flagstaff.
 
@zona put an end to the debate already...

We've gone down this road before...80 vs. Jeep, 80 vs. 100, 80 vs. 200, 80 vs. Godzilla...

"If you're the kind that showers everyday go for the 100. If you haven't camped since 1982 go for the 100. If you own a Tommy Bahama shirt go for the 100. If your arms don't fill out your polo go for the 100. If you own a "labra-doodle" go for the 100. If you prefer green tea over beer go for the 100. If you are prone to tennis elbow go for the 100. If you now eat gluten free go for the 100. If you wear gloves whilst driving your Miata go for the 100. If you cover up after showering so your wife doesn't see your private parts...you've got issues. If your wife never lets you forget the time she found that starched sock under the bed go for the 100. If your food can't touch the other food go for the 100. If you get Starbucks giftcards go for the 100. If you wanted to be a cowboy as a kid...the 80"!
 
get the 100, gx470, gx460 or even 200 series... the 80 rides like crap, sucks fuel, is slow blah blah blah. you get the 80 because it is tough as hell and can go anywhere. sounds like you dont need to go anywhere so why not get something more street friendly? this is coming from someone who owns both. i am thinking of giving the wife the 100 and taking her is300 since i now drive twice the miles as her.
 
I've already got a beard and none of the pansy list items apply to me. Looks like 80 it is.

In all seriousness, it is good to know that it isn't a maintenance nightmare. I need a fun daily driver that I can do whatever I want in not a perma-project car.
 
I've already got a beard and none of the pansy list items apply to me. Looks like 80 it is.

In all seriousness, it is good to know that it isn't a maintenance nightmare. I need a fun daily driver that I can do whatever I want in not a perma-project car.

I just got the diesel 80 not too long ago. I love that thing! Is it fast? no. but is it everything else you want? yes!! The 80 series just opens up so many things in life.

Is it a maintenance nightmare you ask? That depends how good of a buyer you are. Im not all too mechanically inclined but so far I have been able to do everything myself. I get quite a bit of joy working on the cruiser. when you complete a task, you get a sense of pride. It just feels good.

The best part about the 80 is this forum and the people you meet. I have met some really awesome folks through this forum.

You have a beard. You will be happy with the 80. The 100 will bore you despite making more sense.
 
I should mention that we have a relatively knew RX350 for long drives on paved roads. It gets great gas mileage and is extremely comfortable and boring to drive. It is a zero character car and I'm trying to avoid any more of that. I'm worried that even a 100 series LC will be too close to the new RX and I'll end up driving my S2000 more than the LC on daily duty just to have some fun.
 
I find myself driving my 100 more and more, to each his own I guess
 
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