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Neither seem to come in stock sizing. At least, according to Michelin website (they like the Latitude Tour HP). What size were you running?
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Neither seem to come in stock sizing. At least, according to Michelin website (they like the Latitude Tour HP). What size were you running?
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What is the advantage of running a 275 (over stock) when primarily driving city/hwy and will mileage drop? I assume its larger & heavier. I don't know diddly about tires.......
I am a big fan of the Yokohama geolander ATs for what your describing your wants and needs are. Quiet, smooth riding, some of the best tread for year around traction, , all around great tires for the non hardcore offroad user. I have them on both my cruisers.
I Can't be more pleased with the Geolanders, and I have basically very similar needs and wants from a tire.
I'm not sure the 'Latitude HP' is really optimal for this truck, as it is labeled a crossover/ suv tire. I have them on a crossover and they are quiet and a nice ride for a highway tire and ok in rain (no snow here). They would probably work on the LC but I wonder if you would reach the mileage or if the weight of the LC would be a factor.
I emailed Michelin about the possibility of the current LTX series being produced in the 285/60 size. The email back was clearly a form letter, but it implied that no 285/60 is coming, and that all of the 'LTX' tires were to be discontinued and the 'Defender LTX' was to take the place.
I guess a 'Defender A/T2' will be next. I noticed that my Costco is not carrying the LTX AT2 online anymore and the mileage guarantee on a Defender is reduced down from the LTX, so maybe people couldn't get that mileage.
Michelin did say the Defender model was better for frequent towing over the LTX, but did not elaborate.
cc1999, do you have the geolandar in the P-metric 285/60? I've never owned Yokohama but may try a set next time.
I emailed Michelin about the possibility of the current LTX series being produced in the 285/60 size. The email back was clearly a form letter, but it implied that no 285/60 is coming, and that all of the 'LTX' tires were to be discontinued and the 'Defender LTX' was to take the place.
I guess a 'Defender A/T2' will be next. I noticed that my Costco is not carrying the LTX AT2 online anymore and the mileage guarantee on a Defender is reduced down from the LTX, so maybe people couldn't get that mileage.
Michelin did say the Defender model was better for frequent towing over the LTX, but did not elaborate.
cc1999, do you have the geolandar in the P-metric 285/60? I've never owned Yokohama but may try a set next time.
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I asked the 'guy' at Tire Rack and he said yes, but taken w/a grain of salt. According to the Yoko website, they offer it in a P, but for stock (285/60R18) size.
I put a set of Geolander AT/S tires on my 3rd Gen 4Runner when my Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo's wore out around 40-45k. After a few hundred miles I returned them and replaced with another set of Revo's (the original, not Revo 2's). They were quieter than the AT Revo's (which were not bad at all for an AT tire) but their traction was worthless in rain, much like the OEM Goodyear Wrangler RT/S. At the time I was preparing to move to Chicago from Virginia and didn't even want to consider how badly they would have been in the snow given the wet weather performance. This was back in Dec 2006, and the Geolander AT/S was a new tire, so I don't know if Yokohama has made changes to them since then.
Just my $0.02 (which is worth maybe half that now due to 10 years of depreciation)
Just my $0.02 (which is worth maybe half that now due to 10 years of depreciation)
Yes my Geolander ATs are oem stock size p285/60/18.
i have had mine a year now, been through all 4 seasons, rain, dry, snow, ice, very pleased with mine in all conditions. I dont get the rain traction thing , I never hydroplaned at all, and that saying something for a size as wide as the 285/60. One of mine came with michellins the other with bridgestone's, and both of the oem tires had some hydroplane tendencys. So far these have been great in the rain. Our spring 2015 was one of the wettest on record, lots of flooding in the area last april, may and june. I drove in a lot of rain during that time, thats one of the reasons i bought the set for my other LC.
Was very impressed with geolander ATs in snow and ice performance last winter too.
Like i mentioned, I liked them enough i ditched the nearly new set of oem michillens on one of my cruisers for anothef set of the geolanders ATs.
Also started using some Geolander ATS LTs on some of my buisiness fleet pickups. Been pleased them on the pickups too so far.
i have had mine a year now, been through all 4 seasons, rain, dry, snow, ice, very pleased with mine in all conditions. I dont get the rain traction thing , I never hydroplaned at all, and that saying something for a size as wide as the 285/60. One of mine came with michellins the other with bridgestone's, and both of the oem tires had some hydroplane tendencys. So far these have been great in the rain. Our spring 2015 was one of the wettest on record, lots of flooding in the area last april, may and june. I drove in a lot of rain during that time, thats one of the reasons i bought the set for my other LC.
Was very impressed with geolander ATs in snow and ice performance last winter too.
Like i mentioned, I liked them enough i ditched the nearly new set of oem michillens on one of my cruisers for anothef set of the geolanders ATs.
Also started using some Geolander ATS LTs on some of my buisiness fleet pickups. Been pleased them on the pickups too so far.
I ran the Revos and LTS AT2's among others on a 265,000mi 4Runner. 2 sets of each over the years. The Revos are great when new but noisy and refused to wear evenly on a regularly aligned, shocked truck. Switched to the AT2's and was VERY happy. 90% highway but some solid off roading in the Shenandoah Valley for grouse and turkey season. Steep greasy clay fire roads, rock, mud...etc. The Michelins were quiet, rode nicer and went surprisingly well off road for a road biased tire. Biggest plus was that they wore evenly, rode quietly and were excellent in the wet at all speeds (80mph in rain) and even when near the end of their tread life. Very good in the light snow we get in VA
Wish they made a fitment for the stock 2016 LC I'm about to buy to replace the OEM Dunlops
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Re-hashing here. Anyone know if TRD Pro's mounted w/275/65/18's will cause any rubbing issues at stock height? I can pick up a new set for cheap and although the tires are new but less-than-ideal (LTX AT2's) I can run 'em in the summer and then put some AT's on my OEM rims for winter use.
I would disagree with this. My Toyo AT IIs work great on the highway and out perform all seasons in snow and heavy rain
Of what you listed I would say BFG AT KOs or Toyo AT IIs based on my own personal preference
I had minimal rubbing with 275/70/18 and would have lived with it if needed. Since the size you select is 1" shorter, you should have even less rubbing if any. I did not take it off road at stock height and that is where the issues would arise at flex. If you plan on street driving with stock height, you should be golden
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So the TRD Pro's have a +60 offset. My truck has stock wheels. Will I have an issue w/the +60?
I think stock has a +50 offset, but others will correct me as I quickly got rid of mine
No issues with the Tundra wheels
No issues with the Tundra wheels
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This may be more hassle that its worth (if I listen to the Toyota service guy). I called two local T dealers; both said wheels would need to be broken down each time to gather codes and input via OBD. I asked if I had the codes written down can they simply input into OBD. This threw both guy for a loop. I tried the local Wheel Works. He said if I have two sets of wheels w/sensors (eight different codes), he can scan each wheel (when I swap out wheels) and input new code via OBD and off I go. Think he said $30.
Nobody has any clue about the generic sensor (i.e. get four generic sensors, program with codes from stock sensors, swap wheels as you please w/no TPMS error).
So, options are:
1. Don't bother running two wheel sets
2. Pay to have wheels scanned & system programmed each time I swap wheels
The best, yet unconfirmed option will be to buy generic sensors, program them with OEM sensor codes, swap out wheels whenever I wish. To get to this, I would have to have OEM wheels scanned and write down all five sensor codes to program into generic sensors.
Am I missing something?
Nobody has any clue about the generic sensor (i.e. get four generic sensors, program with codes from stock sensors, swap wheels as you please w/no TPMS error).
So, options are:
1. Don't bother running two wheel sets
2. Pay to have wheels scanned & system programmed each time I swap wheels
The best, yet unconfirmed option will be to buy generic sensors, program them with OEM sensor codes, swap out wheels whenever I wish. To get to this, I would have to have OEM wheels scanned and write down all five sensor codes to program into generic sensors.
Am I missing something?
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Have a look at this:
Understanding Toyota’s direct and indirect TPMS - Tire Review Magazine
Key sentence from the above=
"Land Cruisers have a “MAIN/2nd” switch. This allows the owner to have two different sets of tires and wheels with two different sets of TPMS valve/sensor ID numbers. For example, the second set could be used for winter tires."
The article walks you though the steps for how to do it. I have not tried it, as I don't have a 2nd set of wheels yet...but have a look.
