Events/Trails 80s on the Ershim (1 Viewer)

[80t0ylc]

In a hurry on the last 5 miles, I wasn't as 'gentle' using the roof rack sliding on trees.

Suspected something like that. Good to know that my Prinsu will hold up to such use! Thanks for sharing pics. I imagined that in your situation, just making your adjusted destination and schedule required ignoring normal caution. Was good to hear you guys made it back safe and reflection on this experience in the future, will sharpen your skills for this kind of wheelin' - not to mention making wise choices in emergency situations!

 

[malteserunner]

Suspected something like that. Good to know that my Prinsu will hold up to such use! Thanks for sharing pics. I imagined that in your situation, just making your adjusted destination and schedule required ignoring normal caution. Was good to hear you guys made it back safe and reflection on this experience in the future, will sharpen your skills for this kind of wheelin' - not to mention making wise choices in emergency situations!

Most of the trail, I longed for hydraulic assisted steering. I don't run a selectable front locker. I manage to make it work, normally, but at the pace I was going on the last section of the trail, I took some bad lines. In the end, all the damage is cosmetic, or easily repaired, and just adds a little extra to the story.

 

[Noahrob]

Hit the roof because I was tired and lazy...dumbass. the only other damage was some scratches, a busted rear sway bar mount, and exhaust hangers got ripped off. Everything is fixed and painted...where to next?

 

[tacocat]

Glad both groups made it out. My wife saw your group on the 168 in Clovis on her way home last weekend.

That 20 mile run in one day is no picnic. You all made the right decision, and glad you are safe. Evac from there is no joke as there is really only one road out. The alternate route that runs by Black Rock Reservoir is not for the average driver and heavy traffic.

On a side note, choosing incorrectly could have earned you a once in lifetime airlift on a Chinook or Blackhawk.

 

[Broski]

I hit the same tree Noahrob did but with a lot less damage just barely damaging the rain gutter.

I also clipped a stump sticking into the trail, this was after about 10 hrs on the trail I was beat and tired, I try to back up once. That spot was already dented and I said F it, was glad that it did not damage the tail lite. I can't remember if that's the third or forth time I have smashed that spot but it's a dent magnet.

Besides scratches on my armor and undercarriage that all the damage

 

[GW Nugget]

I think 4 of us hit that same tree, there was a big rock on driver front in a tight right turn. My rack is a little bent from it. I installed the roof rack to save the roof from bad tress jumping out to get me.

 

[tacocat]

That’s what’s never brought up while wheeling around 168.

The trees are as rough as the rocks. It’s also why there aren’t many nice pictures.

 

[GW Nugget]

Back to what the minimum size tires & armour one needs to run the Dusy depends on how much damage you are willing to receive. 315s & 3" lift with armour & winch would be doable but difficult. 37s up would make things less stressful. We stacked less rocks for Broski who has 39s. My rig required the most rock stacking because my frame sat the lowest with a 2" lift & 38s. My frame height fully aired up is 20" lower aired down. My lower control arms (LCAs) were hanging up on rocks others were not having issues with. Which slowed me down & made me drive around obstacles that others were driving through.
When I do Dusy again my frame will be up higher at a minimum of 1 or 2 inches.

 

[GW Nugget]

Here is a IG vid to how quickly damage can happen when getting slightly distracted.
I was 90% through a obstacle then @baldilocks reached out to give me knuckles then a tree got the quarter panel.
Watch second vid scroll to the right.

 

[GW Nugget]

Here are more IG vids from baldilocks wife account.


Broski has 4" lift & 39s.

 

[GW Nugget]

Baldilocks has 5" lift & 37s.

 

[baldilocks]

A Dusy of a reminder of Thompson hill. 55 mph is the fastest I ran it post trail run and the vibration wasn’t bad enough to sideline the 80. Thinking about hanging this one up on the wall. It should be a good conversation piece.

 

[GW Nugget]

That's a TROPHY if I ever saw one.

 

[baldilocks]

That's a TROPHY if I ever saw one.

Yeah, a $500 trophy....

 

[tacocat]

Yeah, a $500 trophy....

Ouch. Is that the front or rear driveshaft?

My rigs have never been built enough to run that trail yet.

 

[baldilocks]

Ouch. Is that the front or rear driveshaft?

My rigs have never been built enough to run that trail yet.

That's the rear driveline. About half of the damage was there prior to the Dusy run. I have two sets of drivelines and always carry a spare rear shaft mounted to muffle clamps that I welded to the forward side of the trailer hitch structure of the 4x4labs bumper. All it takes is to wind up with the center of the vehicle atop a large rock for driveline damage to happen quickly.

 

[Broski]

Back to what the minimum size tires & armour one needs to run the Dusy depends on how much damage you are willing to receive. 315s & 3" lift with armour & winch would be doable but difficult. 37s up would make things less stressful. We stacked less rocks for Broski who has 39s. My rig required the most rock stacking because my frame sat the lowest with a 2" lift & 38s. My frame height fully aired up is 20" lower aired down. My lower control arms (LCAs) were hanging up on rocks others were not having issues with. Which slowed me down & made me drive around obstacles that others were driving through.
When I do Dusy again my frame will be up higher at a minimum of 1 or 2 inches.

Something to consider is that your rig's exhaust runs under the frame where mine runs over the frame. That with your lower frame height is why you nearly tore the exhaust off just sayin. For reference my frame height is 213/4", my tires account for 1/2" of that so the rest for the most part is your 1" body lift.

 

[Broski]

Hears some picture of the under side of my Reg with all most no damage to the drive line and most of what is there was preexisting.

When picking a line, I try to keep my tires on the biggest rocks to help keep the low hanging fruit from harms way

That's the original factory muffler, it has no leaks or rattles. I think it helps protect the drive line.

 

[Broski]

Baldilocks has 5" lift & 37s.

OK, Gary (@ GW Nugget) we would like to see some of the pictures that you and your daughter took. It's been 5 days now , POST UP. Just saying

 

[baldilocks]

Something to consider is that your rig's exhaust runs under the frame where mine runs over the frame. That with your lower frame height is why you nearly tore the exhaust off just sayin. For reference my frame height is 213/4", my tires account for 1/2" of that so the rest for the most part is your 1" body lift.

Our frame heights are pretty much the same and why Toyota routed the exhaust under the frame on a Landcruiser, I will never understand. Perhaps it had to do with the tandem cats. Post run analysis has me informed of two things: I need to repair and armor my rear LCA frame mounts, and, the air pressure I chose to run was too high based on what I see in the videos. Other than this my only question concerning vehicle performance has to do with the Dobinson rear 3" tapered springs vs the Slee 4" hd progressive springs I'd been running past few years. The Dobinson's compressed more under the heavy load of a big trip such as this one and also allowed deeper compression and more side to side sway on the trail which translates to more slider and rear bumper impacts with rocks. some of this might be better controlled with fancy, high dollar shocks and a thicker anti-sway bar. I think I will put the Slee springs back in for such trips in the future. Don't get me wrong, the Dobinson equipment is great and puts a smile on my face in most all situation's.