80s enthusiast please help me on this one... (1 Viewer)

[LX_TREME]

80 Guys help me on this will ya... Im thinking to get rid off the black round filter housing and add the Hi flow filter, Sorry not SNORKEL fan here anyways,
yea so it'll be the filter - intake adapter -connect to the factory sensor,also im gonna have the body shop to cut square hole and cover 'em with air scoop so the fresh cold air can go right into the filter.
Im so curious with this one :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7956929274&category=38634

Do you guys think from ebay pics the intake adapter will fit directly to 80 mass sensor?

P.S- I already got the hood scoop from '86 nissan 300zx just need lil body work and paint match.

Thanks for help

 

[TYLER]

an ass sensor or mass sensor? Stick with stock.

 

[semlin]

the year range of 88 to 96 does not inspire confidence that the seller knows what he is talking about. It looks like the kind of random year range I have seen a lot in Canada for aftermarket parts in catalogues that turn out not to fit a 3FE or an 1FZ.

 

[reffug]

I will never understand. Sorry I just will never understand.

 

[e9999]

how about this for an idea, LX?:
you take a snorkel, make a hole in the fender, but run it horizontally backwards, like some sort of giant exhaust pipe going back....
Man, everybody will ask you about the rig and what kinda engine you have in there!
Be sure to do one on each side...!

 

[reffug]

how about this for an idea, LX?:
you take a snorkel, make a hole in the fender, but run it horizontally backwards, like some sort of giant exhaust pipe going back....
Man, everybody will ask you about the rig and what kinda engine you have in there!
Be sure to do one on each side...!

e,

YOU MADE A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I GET JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LandCruiserPhil]

Why are you doing this mod?

 

[bjowett]

The 80 filter and housing are quite efficient and very LARGE... I doubt you will see any improvment by going to open filter... even with scoop.

 

[Gumby]

As much as I would hate to see this done as well, there was just a discussion about the benifits of a snorkel on performance and most posts pointed toward increased performance from the snorkel. I have not seen any, but that's what was claimed. If that was so, then this should work as well provided it's done right and the open air filter is completely isolated from the engine heat.

Still, you're pushing a 5000 pound brick and the only real noticible difference is you might hear intake roar and mistake it for power. Not even a remote chance it will be worth the time, effort and ruination of a fine vehicle.

I would not buy anything from someone who does not know that the MAFs changed from 93-94 to 95-97. 3FEs on 88-92 were different as well.

 

[e9999]

e,

YOU MADE A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I GET JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what, you are getting jokes now?
what happened?

 

[T Y L E R]

Isn't the consensus that an open filter is a bad idea . Has anyone ever tested the air plenum for particulate after an open filter .... and compared that somehow to a stock setup , along the same terrain .

Perhaps two 80 enthusiasts running a short trip .. one with each option .. open / stock .

White glove the intake after coming out .



TY

 

[reffug]

what, you are getting jokes now?
what happened?

Yup activated the humor chip tonight and now I get jokes.......

Its like WTF???????????? All the time....................................

Might need to deactivate huh................................................ :whoops:

 

[NorCalDoug]

The tricky thing with hood scoops is that the placement has to be JUST right. Too far back and there's really no benefit at all.

I was watching an automotive show discussing various scoop designs. They used a wind tunnel, with smoke to show how for most scoop locations, the air flowed directly over the scoop, not into it due to the shape of the hood and the location of the scoop.

If you're going to do it right, you might want to test the location somehow...do you have access to a wind tunnel?

 

[turbocruiser]

LX, hi, I'll attempt to answer the question without making fun of it...

That adaptor does look like it will fit the MAF/MAS (in terms of one diameter meeting another diameter only) however, and this is a big HOWEVER, it does not look like a good idea; they are adding alot of weight and alot of flex to a relatively fragile plastic piece (I'll try to post the pic of my MAF that cracked - not an inexpensive part - something like 480 IIRC) that is not going to get supported by ANYTHING once you remove the stock air filter element can and bracketry.

IOW, you are gonna have a crack-prone rubber intake tube going from your TB to the MAF to a huge heavy billet bling dealy do that you will have to support somehow. Unless you are an admirably capable fabricator you will have to have someone make some slick support pieces, chrome them or anodize them or whatever-them to match the rest of the "look" you are aiming for. It makes no sense to get the bling of billet and then support it with rusty steel if you know what I mean. And then, and only then will you realize that there is not much performance improvement, if any, over stock.

I would not waste my time man, and that is not spoken as an insult as I go out of my way to avoid that, but just as sensible advice. If you are wanting to add the performance, this really wont do it. If you are wanting to add the bling then I guess by investing more in the support structure than in the actual thing, you might be able to, but, to what end; it will only be observed by a select few (those you open your hood for) and really would they, or you for that matter, care if that part of your engine bay is stock after adding that twin turbo thing you want to get?

Put it this way, the Safari system, despite all its added modifications leaves the stock air intake system (up to the MAF and then after the TB) totally alone, no modification whatsoever. So if the stock box can feed the turbo and the intercooler with plenty of puff, what makes you think you need something better than stock?

One last point, spoken and taken as a friend hopefully, I've seen how some here really razz you man and part of that is purely playful poking but the other part is sincere razzing and I think I've fingered out the reason why. My thought is that many people here point to the fact that some of your modifications are purely aesthetic but in a false or flashy sort of sense. I'm personally fascinated for example by how the handling on your rig is after dropping it with those springs and whatsnot. On the other hand, I simply shake my head at the thought of a dual exhaust on a straight six landcruiser! It just baffles me brains if you know what I mean and again, without any insult intended, this air filter 'upgrade' is a perfect example of a modifcation for false and for flash that most here, including me, just do not comprehend. Entiendes?

Again just a friendly opinion but spend your money and your time making that monster go faster or farther and you will always have my attention and admiration even if you are scraping that dual exhaust on the ground!!! Take care man.

 

[BOUNDER]

On the other hand, I simply shake my head at the thought of a dual exhaust on a straight six landcruiser! It just baffles me brains if you know what I mean and again, without any insult intended, this air filter 'upgrade' is a perfect example of a modifcation for false and for flash that most here, including me, just do not comprehend. Entiendes?

Again just a friendly opinion but spend your money and your time making that monster go faster or farther and you will always have my attention and admiration even if you are scraping that dual exhaust on the ground!!! Take care man. [/QUOTE]


Hey, nice response-I like your style- and I say that with a life-long record of unblemished heterosexuality . Enlighten me, please: what's the issue with dual exhaust on a straight six LC - specific to LX's installation or can't be done?

 

[cruiserdan]

Enlighten me, please: what's the issue with dual exhaust on a straight six LC - specific to LX's installation or can't be done?

It's more of a "why bother" sort of thing. The benefits,if any, from a dual exhaust on an inline 6 cylinder engine are debateable at best.


D-

 

[LX_TREME]

Reason i want to get the Hi FLow filter and cut the hood is just samething like NorCalDoug posted too far back theres really no benefit at all.I wish I can have the wind tunnel test but unfortunately I dont have the access for it Doug.

Yeah i know about the razz thing..here but hey at least the dual thing is real catback system.Well to be honest actually it only works well for Turbo FJZ80 anyways back to the filter topic, thanks for the input.I never thought about the bracket support and cracked MAF.
All im trying to do is just to get performance and help the engine breath better (sort of direct air from the outside) by minimizing the air travel before enter to the TB.Im planning to cut the hood right above the black round filter housing and cover it with the air scoop, but we'll see...

 

[turbocruiser]

Hey, nice response-I like your style- and I say that with a life-long record of unblemished heterosexuality . Enlighten me, please: what's the issue with dual exhaust on a straight six LC - specific to LX's installation or can't be done?

Well, thanks for the compliment and the clarification, that's a real relief, whew! First this is all only an opinion, and not meant to harm or to insult, but in my opinion the issue with the dual exhaust on a straight six is simply that it is inherently unneccessary; I mean unless you have two banks of cylinders as in a V8 or V6 etc, or a horizontally opposed engine, putting on performance oriented dual exhausts is a waste of time and money. I would argue that any inline engine would do just as well with well designed single exhaust as it would with an equally well designed and truly 'dual' exhaust. That is assuming we are talking about a truly dual exhaust that somehow splits the pulses of the first three cylinders from the last three cylinders, or 1st,3rd,5th from 2nd,4th,6th, etc. My guess is that in most cases, even if someone went through the trouble to produce such a split manifold, this would produce no additional power anyway.

The other thing that i'm assuming is it is not really a dual exhaust but just a split somewhere down the pipe that branches to two mufflers and two tailpipes. This is the case with most fake dual exhausts and in this case the performance is probably actually reduced by all the extra tubing and resistance and whatsnot. The worst thing though is to take a V8 or a V6, have both exhaust manifolds going to a crossover pipe which goes single pipe to some split that then turns back into a "dual exhaust".

Again, all an opinion, and you know what those are like!

Edit: I'm trying to attach the photo of my MAF to show that it hates any flex at all.

 

[T Y L E R]

Whats that guys name on here from way up north ??


He cut into his corner lense , and made an air intake right thru it ! Then also put reverse louvers on the hood .. to maximize air movement thru the engine bay .


I think


TY

 

[cruiserdan]

Photoman