Oh man......I'm not commenting on that to save my soul! 

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sleeoffroad said:My 4Runner will spank all the 100's and 80's![]()
Bob_Garrett said:Since I recently started wheeling a 1st gen pickup after several years of wheeling my 80, I will certainly agree with that statement. My mini can already outdo the 80 and it's only runnning on 33s (80 is on 35s). But while the Mini can outwheel the 80, the 80 wins hands down in comfort both on and off-road.
I'm going shut up now before a 80 vs 100 vs mini-truck/4Runner fight gets started
Bob
concretejungle said:So do you think a well equiped 100 will out-wheel a D110? Oh, snap.........
ShottsUZJ100 said:Showdown? No contest. While the 100 might get a "pretty ribbon" it won't beat out 80's on the trail.![]()
dclee said:Too bad they're not stock Rover axles. Volvo? `Mog? Can't quite tell. Definately portals, though. And yes, very cool!
MoJ said:Heh, that quote is going in my sig line. %$#@^
SteveH said:To revive this thread - Truck Trend (Motor Trend's cheesy truck rag) rated the 100 series last in a SUV shootout - and also finished a 4Runner article with the final sentence 'Who needs a Land Cruiser'
My brother's and my observation on this (he has a '94, I have a '95) are that the 100 series lacks the three things that make an '80 series what it is - solid axles, a unique engine, and lockers front and rear. So, a 100 series, on paper, resembles a very expensive new 4Runner - 4.7l v-8, IFS, and a rear locker. I believe the distinction that used to make a Land Cruiser a Land Cruiser is now mostly gone. I have owned/own, an FJ40, 45, 55, 60, and 80 - so I understand heritage, etc.
I'm sure the 100 series is a capable 'wheeler and very tight, luxurious, etc. - but how long will people pay the premium for it over a 4Runner, when it no longer has the uniqueness? And, gad, 5 lug nuts?
Thoughts?
Flamefully,
Steve
calamaridog said:Steve,
My thoughts:
1)for reviving this thread...
2) They have sold 15,000+ combined units of the LC and LX470 since 1998. Every year.
3) 5x150mm lug pattern is bigger and stronger than the 6 lug pattern. Sorry to disappoint you.
4) Lockers can be added for those of use who want/need them. BTW, how many of your Cruisers came equipped with factory lockers? That's what I thought.
The LC/LX is bigger than a 4runner and appeals to a different market. They are profitable for Toyota still. Tooling costs were paid for in the first couple years so now it's a low volume, high profit model. Nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint.