80 series power mirrors (1 Viewer)

[Chippacket]

I bought a 94, 4.5 80 series about 12 months ago. Everything good except the left power mirror never worked. Decided to pull it off and have a sticky beak to see what giggles. I discovered it's never going to giggle the way it is as it's not plugged in because it can't be. I'm thinking the previous owner has broken this mirror before today and replaced it with a mirror that's off a later series cruiser or Sahara/Prado maybe?

The car is only base GXL and the mirror has 7 pin (inline) wiring, but the car only offers 3 pin connector. The 3 pin offer is yellow/green/white. The mirror is yellow/green/black/red/brown/blue/light green. I have it apart on the kitchen table and all 7 wires go up in the motor but only 3 come out the other side to the mirror itself (Red/black and brown).

Can anyone firstly tell me what this mirror came off? Secondly what each of the 7 wires do and thirdly I would assume i can cut and shut wires here to make it 3 pin and just shield and isolate the unwanted wires. I would also assume that green and yellow will marry up but what do I connect the white one too? But red/black/brown connected to the mirror tells me that the green and yellow offering don't actually go to the green and yellow on the seven pin plug.

I've tried hard to locate a wiring diagram for this mirror to learn the wire requirements but I don't know what model/year/series to search for and I'm shooting blind.

Any help that you fine expert folk can plant me with would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

 

[Douglas S]

Other wires are likely for the power folding feature.

 

[Flank]

Looks like a cruiser mirror. right shape, right wires. on the inside. The 7 pin on the outside makes me wonder. I checked my spare and it only had the three... Was not aware of another model with same chassis mirror.

 

[Douglas S]

You can see the power folding assembly in the first pic. Mirrors likely came off a higher trim spec RHD.

 

[Chippacket]

The car is RHD. I was thinking power retract and/or heated for the other 4 wires but I don't know how many wires the retract would require. I would have thought only two but I'm happy to be wrong. I cant see anything there that would indicate "Heated". When you say you checked yours and it only had three are you saying black/red/brown or yellow/white/green? On the mirror itself I'm assuming brown would be earth and red and black must be up/down and Left/right and somehow I need to be able to marry them to yellow/green/white where green and yellow would possibly be up/down and left/right leaving the white as the earth......but I'm a bit bummfuzzled with it at the moment. At least you've confirmed power retract for me. Cheers.

 

[Douglas S]

IIRC there are no factory heated mirrors for the 80.

It's been a while since I played with my power folders, but I believe the extra wires are for limit sensors to turn the motors off when the mirrors are fully opened or closed.

 

[Flank]

Huh. I was noticing the lack of the massive spring on the manual folders. How come USA never got any of the cool crap like this, or corner steps, or refrigerators, or rear air, or 70 series?....

 

[Slammy]

Another alternative is to order some Depo mirrors from Rock auto. I think I paid $61 plus shipping. They bolt right on and come with a three plug wire harness.

 

[cbpeck]

On North American LX470s the right side mirror glass tilts down when the transmission is shifted to reverse. They do this so the driver can see a curb. I wonder if that might be what the extra wires are for.

 

[IanB]

On North American LX470s the right side mirror glass tilts down when the transmission is shifted to reverse. They do this so the driver can see a curb. I wonder if that might be what the extra wires are for.

Pretty sure that was never offered on 80's, or anything else Toyota that old. Our '04 GX470 has it though.

 

[Tools R Us]

You can see the power folding assembly in the first pic. Mirrors likely came off a higher trim spec RHD.

Yep, if you don't want to mess with that option, just wire up the three wires needed for mirror adjustment and abandon the rest.

 

[Chippacket]

Thanks for the reply's all. With the mirror in bits on the kitchen table I can't find a serial number or anything name wise to associate it with Toyota so I'm thinking it's not genuine and aftermarket for sure. Red/black/brown definitely operate the mirror so yes I'll wire those only and isolate the other 4. I think the black goes to yellow on the car and operates up/down, the brown goes to green on the car and operates left/right and red goes to white as the source.

The blue and light green operate the extend and retract and yes I think the dark green and yellow are for limit switch on the extend/retract. Now I'll have to mount it back to the door and reset the extend/retract straight from a battery as I've operated it now several times and not sure what position the extend has parked itself in but that's an easy reset once mounted.

I'm still interested to find out what model it should be for though. What year/series did extend/retract first appear on them? Was that available for the 80's or not until the 100 series and was the shell shape the same for both series?

Cheers guys.

 

[Chippacket]

I'm now thinking the extra two wires are not for limit switch, instead go back to ignition so they would auto retract when the ignition is turned off. I cant see someone manually fiddling with a switch to retract mirrors every time they stop at a deli, supermarket, servo etc. The function would never get used. Know one would bother every time they stopped or parked. It was just a thought!

 

[inkpot]

I'm now thinking the extra two wires are not for limit switch, instead go back to ignition so they would auto retract when the ignition is turned off. I cant see someone manually fiddling with a switch to retract mirrors every time they stop at a deli, supermarket, servo etc. The function would never get used. Know one would bother every time they stopped or parked. It was just a thought!

It is done automatically on some of the new Robers.

 

[inkpot]

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