80 or 100 brake pads? (1 Viewer)

[Yotazealot]

Tools:
OEM pads (and other parts) are my default go to's not so much because they are better parts, but because they are a known quantity of acceptable quality. If there are brake pads out there that are truly and demonstrably better, I am open to using them. Sounds like what you are talking about is made specifically for the 80 as opposed to something adapted to the 80.

 

[TheRareElement]

Well, it seems in my case I have no choice, went to Toyota to buy pads for my 97 80, they said take these instead :
04465-YZZ53 Front
04466-60090 Rear
To be or not to be ???

 

[Yotazealot]

Let me get this straight.
This is from the Dealer? They actually said "Take these parts instead of the correct parts."? If that is true, whether you end up using these parts or not I suggest finding another dealer, at the very least. It is one thing for you to to ask for non-standard parts and quite another to have non-standard parts foisted upon you. Even if they were genuinely trying to help you out, this reeks of incompetence.

Don't know what these part numbers are, but I assume they are 100 series pads to go on your 80. If that is the case, ask yourself the following questions:
If you install them and they don't work and/or damage your truck, will the people that sold them to you fix those problems at THEIR cost?
What if all seems OK at first, but 6 or 8 months down the road they fail?
What if you don't discover the failure and resultant problems until a year or more has passed?

If you install or have someone else install parts on your vehicle not designed for that vehicle, you alone must bear the consequences, good or bad, of that decision. Caveat Emptor.

 

[ccslider]

I just bought the ebcs 80's

 

[BILT4ME]

Let me get this straight.
This is from the Dealer? They actually said "Take these parts instead of the correct parts."? If that is true, whether you end up using these parts or not I suggest finding another dealer, at the very least. It is one thing for you to to ask for non-standard parts and quite another to have non-standard parts foisted upon you. Even if they were genuinely trying to help you out, this reeks of incompetence.

Don't know what these part numbers are, but I assume they are 100 series pads to go on your 80. If that is the case, ask yourself the following questions:
If you install them and they don't work and/or damage your truck, will the people that sold them to you fix those problems at THEIR cost?
What if all seems OK at first, but 6 or 8 months down the road they fail?
What if you don't discover the failure and resultant problems until a year or more has passed?

If you install or have someone else install parts on your vehicle not designed for that vehicle, you alone must bear the consequences, good or bad, of that decision. Caveat Emptor.

Realize that person posting is in Giza, Egypt. Not like there's a dealer on every corner.........

 

[sunrk]

04465-YZZ53 returns no matches doing a reverse-search in Toyodiy.

The other numbers returns this:

Part 04466-60090 (PAD KIT, DISC BRAKE, REAR) was found on the following models:


Date range Model Frames/Options Found in diagram

07/2007- TOYOTA FJ CRUISER GSJ15 47-07: REAR DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

11/2002-07/2009 TOYOTA 4RUNNER GRN21*,KZN215 47-07: REAR DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

09/2002-02/2010 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER PRADO GRJ12*,KDJ120,KZJ120,LJ12*,RZJ12*,TRJ12* 47-07: REAR DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER


I'll be using either RDA Extreme or Bendix 4wd front pads with the new genuine calipers and rotors I'm expecting to show up any day now. 80 series ones though not 105's.

 

[TheRareElement]

Let me get this straight.
This is from the Dealer? They actually said "Take these parts instead of the correct parts."? If that is true, whether you end up using these parts or not I suggest finding another dealer, at the very least. It is one thing for you to to ask for non-standard parts and quite another to have non-standard parts foisted upon you. Even if they were genuinely trying to help you out, this reeks of incompetence.

Don't know what these part numbers are, but I assume they are 100 series pads to go on your 80. If that is the case, ask yourself the following questions:
If you install them and they don't work and/or damage your truck, will the people that sold them to you fix those problems at THEIR cost?
What if all seems OK at first, but 6 or 8 months down the road they fail?
What if you don't discover the failure and resultant problems until a year or more has passed?

If you install or have someone else install parts on your vehicle not designed for that vehicle, you alone must bear the consequences, good or bad, of that decision. Caveat Emptor.

Yes, from the mouth of the lion himself "Toyota Egypt".
There is just one dealer in Egypt, then they assign sub-distributors, but one source for all OEM parts.
I've already gone through these questions and have to decide, but what is for sure is that they will not fix anything as a result.

 

[TheRareElement]

04465-YZZ53 returns no matches doing a reverse-search in Toyodiy.

The other numbers returns this:

Thanks @sunrk

 

[Yotazealot]

Toyota Egypt a lion? That I would pay to see.
It is difficult (but not impossible) to imagine they are unable or unwilling to order the correct parts. Do the correct parts take forever to arrive in their distribution system? Is ordering from overseas over the internet prohibitively expensive and/or glacially slow? The right parts are worth the wait and the expense, that is if you can tolerate the wait and expense.
Kindly forgive me for continuing to beat this long-dead horse, but I have found through long and painful experience that cheap non-OEM parts such as are widely available in the States are invariably a huge mistake. The wrong parts regardless of provenance, are invariably a mistake you will end up kicking yourself for making. As well, aftermarket parts of acceptable, proven quality are rare, despite an ocean of ad copy claiming otherwise.
That said, in an emergency, using junk or anything else that is readily available to get home is obviously acceptable. Once home, it can be fixed properly at your leisure, the operant phrase being "at your leisure". I hope this is not an emergency.

I wish you the best of good fortune in your quest.

 

[-Spike-]

A Google search for 04465-YZZ53 returns front brake pads for a 91-97 Land Cruiser. I don't see what the problem is, other than maybe it's not OEM parts?

 

[Tools R Us]

...
If you install them and they don't work and/or damage your truck, will the people that sold them to you fix those problems at THEIR cost?
What if all seems OK at first, but 6 or 8 months down the road they fail?
What if you don't discover the failure and resultant problems until a year or more has passed?

If you install or have someone else install parts on your vehicle not designed for that vehicle, you alone must bear the consequences, good or bad, of that decision. Caveat Emptor.

This may come as a complete shock, but last I checked, the entire truck is out of warranty. Not only that but, most techs were likely in diapers (if that) when the last straight axle Toyota rolled out of the showroom. So are probably not extensively trained on a relic like this? So you have a time bomb, anything could fail at anytime, you alone must bear the consequences of any failure, and the techs are likely not very experienced with repairing on it.

The best plan would be to roll that dinosaur to you local Toyota store, ditch it for a highlander, big tree, or whatever contemporary vehicle. That way would have a comprehensive warranty, properly trained tech staff, etc, less worries.

That or, your hat band maybe a couple of notches too tight, maybe loosen it a bit and enjoy the ride?

 

[Tools R Us]

Toyota Egypt a lion? That I would pay to see.
It is difficult (but not impossible) to imagine they are unable or unwilling to order the correct parts. ...

How do you know they are the wrong part? Toyota, depending on supply chain, spec of the vehicle, etc, may use a diffing part numbers in other markets?

Kindly forgive me for continuing to beat this long-dead horse, but I have found through long and painful experience that cheap non-OEM parts such as are widely available in the States are invariably a huge mistake. The wrong parts regardless of provenance, are invariably a mistake you will end up kicking yourself for making. As well, aftermarket parts of acceptable, proven quality are rare, despite an ocean of ad copy claiming otherwise.
...

Just because you pay the Toyota markup, it came in the red box, doesn't necessarily indicate that it's the best part. In lots of cases, smart shoppers buy the same part, in a different color box for a fraction of the $$. In other cases, aftermarket parts are an upgrade, not that it matters, but sometimes cost more than dealer parts, or not. Yes, there are substandard parts, but aftermarket or OEM, isn't necessarily the indicator of the best part.

 

[inkpot]

Obviously someone has not spent enuff time in 3rd world countries to understand that life as we know it in CONUS ceases to exist 100% as soon as you cross our borders in all 4 directions?

 

[sunrk]

The best plan would be to roll that dinosaur to you local Toyota store, ditch it for a highlander, big tree, or whatever contemporary vehicle. That way would have a comprehensive warranty, properly trained tech staff, etc, less worries.

Lol! Given that most modern vehicles are not designed to be serviced unless the computer tells them (or allows them) to conduct mechanical work, I think most of us that are happy owners of pre-gross-electrickery vehicles are quite happy in the knowledge that (esp. for diesel 80's which do not have any ECU, etc.) they are inherently 10 to 100x more reliable in the long-term than any 'wrapped in computerised cotton wool' current-gen 4wd is.

End of the day there is nothing wrong with OEM brakes. But OEM brakes are not where the engineering development ends, hence aftermarket rotors, pads, calipers, etc. Also OEM is traditionally not cheap whereas aftermarket often is, and cost is a factor everyone except those in the planter class of society consider nearly every time they make a purchasing or related decision.

 

[Yotazealot]

For all I know they may have indeed given him the correct parts. He seemed to think they had not done so.
The impression he gave is that dealing with Toyota Egypt's various parts counters is not much different from dealing with slot machines in Vegas. I sincerely hope that is not the case. I would think, even hope, Corporate Toyota would not put up with that.

The best parts do not necessarily come in the red and white box. I agree. The red and white box is, however, Mr. T's
assertion that it's contents are of acceptable quality, and at least meet his standards for the parts he uses to build the
vehicles that have his name on them. The red and white box tells me that the parts are good to go, not "The Best". I do not expect immortality or perfection in auto parts, not even from Mr.T. FWIW, the mechanics I know who use those parts exclusively must think they are at least reasonably good to go because they warranty them, and their labor, for a year. Not much, but a confidence builder just the same.

I considered a new 200 as it would come with cup-holders and go like a striped a$$ ape, but then I would have had to join the planter class (LOL, sunrk), get a haircut , upgrade my wardrobe and buy me some pointy-toed Eye-talian shoes. No way.
Via con Dios, Vaqueros.

 

[cruiserdan]

Do remember that counterfeit packaging is rampant. A box with the "correct" apperance does not guarantee genuine parts.
That being said, 04466-60090 is not the correct part number for 80 Series rear pads. 04466-60020 is correct.

 

[sunrk]

That's why when I'm after genuine parts I only buy from reputable suppliers - Amayama and Partsouq are my two main go-to places.

 

[cruiserdan]

I'd trust me long before I would trust them

 

[Tools R Us]

I'd trust me long before I would trust them

Trust a museum relic,,, right!

 

[Yotazealot]

How about Toyota Egypt?