U all might b in luck , I can possibly test fit on a split case with oem drum as well. Give me a little time. I will do my best to answer all the questions. It will be the baddest skid plate a splitcase h55 can have.
5speed to a 40 crossmember
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Yes. So fun fact John, the clocked bell housings happened on all the engines across the 60s and 70 series cruisers. To include the 12ht as pictured of the post mid 85 production.
Same as this 60/70 Series B series diesel engine bell housing pictured here.
To answer your other question in terms of advantages in a 40 series...better driveline angles are achieved which negated the need for a double cardan front drive shaft in the 60 series.
If using a diesel engine the other advantage is that post 85 60 series HJ bell housings are much more common than the early counter parts from hj60 and hj45/47.
Same could be said for the B variants, plus the ability to run the 275mm and possibly 300mm clutches without needing to grind the inner bell housing or pressure plate. A bit of ground clearance is lost with the clocked variants.
note to installers. the 4plus skidplate / transmission mount uses the transmission mount that has studs going straight down not at an angle. I will attach a picture of the two different mounts to this post for education and show and tell..
Looks great in raw, powder, or galvanized 
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That would be the 85-newer style mount
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Might be an issue if the 3F bellhousing isn't used. 11/84 most markets made the switch. It is also when the 70 series started. Probably help to know the style isolator that is flat on the bottom and fits the H55F without the rotated 3F bellhousing.
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I will let Dave chime in but I would expect he uses the flat-bottom mount regardless as it is a lot easier to design for.
I build a crossmember kit for 60 series (with pre-85, non-rotated bellhousing, and I utilize the flat mount as it makes my design a lot simpler.
Not an issue, this was initially designed for an fj40 (unclocked) bell housing and actually tucks everything up better/closer to the frame. Dave can make it for either bell housing you have but don't take that to mean they interchangeable.
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I have both bell housings and will install mine with the 2F bell housing when I am able to remove it from the 155F block.
I have an FJ60 crossmember but have been told that I won't need it. But I have it just in case.
I have an FJ60 crossmember but have been told that I won't need it. But I have it just in case.
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Wasn't debating 3F bellhousing not being better just the fact the 4/85-8/87 flat bottom isolator was made to fit the 3F bellhousing as well has B and H diesels from 11/84 on. Someone doing a F series engine with a H55F but a earlier four speed bellhousing should know that late flat bottom isolator fits a rotated transmission. 8/87 when the FJ62 started that isolator fits on the back of the A440F. Knowing ahead of time what isolator is needed would help someone later who is scratching their head wondering why there is an angle problem. If the late isolator for a 3F works with a earlier bellhousing then fine. I just see it being an issue. And if it is think a solution ahead time would be nice. Some people have no problem building as they go. I'm just one of those who tries to plan for any hiccups ahead of time.
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I've been gathering parts for a H55F into my FJ62 for years. One of those parts is late FJ60 crossmember. If I do decide to go H55F I have a 3F bellhousing for the conversion. Not all 60 series crossmembers are made for the 3F bellhousing.
My 40 series will all get 40 OEM crossmembers if Info split rransfer case. If I didn't have crossmembers from 40 series would use a pre 4/85 60 series crossmember. Those were made for the pre 3F bellhousing that rotates the transmission. One of the driving factors is I have skid plates for the 8/80+ FJ4X series and BJ4X series. Those will bolt up to 9/72 and later FJ40 frames.
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My FJ40 is a 1978 so it never had an H55F or cross-member. I was in a hurry when I ordered the 3F bell housing so I now have a choice of which one to use.
The cross-member I have is from Man-a-Free for an FJ60 frame that would have to be cut to fit then weld the mounting brackets in place.
I will have to remove the block from the motor mounts and flip the block over and set down on the head and remove the crank so I can remove the clutch and flywheel. Then I can remove the 2F bell housing and get it cleaned up and powder coated.
If I can, I will try to resize my skid plate, but will have to see once I get the transmission and transfer case mounted in the frame to the new block.
The cross-member I have is from Man-a-Free for an FJ60 frame that would have to be cut to fit then weld the mounting brackets in place.
I will have to remove the block from the motor mounts and flip the block over and set down on the head and remove the crank so I can remove the clutch and flywheel. Then I can remove the 2F bell housing and get it cleaned up and powder coated.
If I can, I will try to resize my skid plate, but will have to see once I get the transmission and transfer case mounted in the frame to the new block.
That looks so cool. I don't do anything extreme enough to warrant a setup like this, but want and need are very different. I definitely want this!
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There are two styles of 60 series crossmembers. 8/80-4/85 and 4/85-8/87. The early style has L brackets that bolt to the inside of frame. Later has brackets riveted to the frame inside and outside.
Here are three FJ40 skid plates. Left is a four speed 74 to 8/80. Middle is four speed 8/80 to end of the 40 series. Right is 10/82+ H55F five speed.
This is a 8/80+ four speed laying on an earlier four speed. Would be fairly easy to cut down. Five speed would require more work to get the drain holes lined up.
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Looks like the 4 speed plate and the H55F plate are pretty close as far as the mounting bolt holes are and even the drain holes look close enough.
Looks like the frame is wider for the 4-speed than the H55F skid plate so I would not work for my frame without more modification. Looks like it would be easier to use the skid plate I already have.
Looks like the frame is wider for the 4-speed than the H55F skid plate so I would not work for my frame without more modification. Looks like it would be easier to use the skid plate I already have.
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yes , I use the flat bottom mount...it is easier
before install on my 40
